Found Deceased UK - Richard Okorogheye, 19, Oxford Student, Ladbroke Grove, West London, 24 Mar 2021

[infinit]

I just can’t get my head around Richard’s choice of Loughton/Epping Forest. His mother had never heard of the places and believed her son had no known connection with them either, although she could have been mistaken on that second point. It’s puzzling.

Some parts of Epping Forest are beautiful and it's known a bit for suicides. Going there at night when most of that beauty is hidden is exactly the kind of thing I expect someone who has not visited before to do in error not realising part of the attraction is it's quite a pretty place to draw your last breathes. It's easy enough in the day to find a secluded spot.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

With regard to wearing a mask outside, when I am on a bit of a downer, it feels comforting that I don’t have to bother arranging my face beneath it into something vaguely resembling a smile for passersby.

I get suicidal ideation still but now I will know it will pass. I see it as a bit of a battered coping mechanism. Often now, I have days free of those upsetting thoughts, which I never thought would happen when I was younger.

My other point is that when I was younger and thoughts may turn to actions, it still wasn’t set in stone that a particular day or event was going to be the time. I almost believed in fate at that point. So for example, if I had been going to the forest to do something, but the taxi hadn’t turned up, I would have probably just gone home.

I grew up with my suicidal thoughts - I can’t remember not having them. I wonder how internet would have affected me. I have never been into suicide websites or anything that encouraged those feelings. I have however found forums that discussed it as part of other things extremely helpful.

It is the mental pain and mental tiredness that I wanted to escape from, not a person who had upset me etc. If you imagine any hurtful (or dismissive) comment or thought or action happening to me, I would take longer to process it to negate it than other people seemed to. I can never just shrug something off as a difference of opinion. So if a lot of these thoughts/feelings were happening in close proximity - even with good things still happening - I wouldn’t have time to process something in its entirety before the next thing. Then they stockpiled up to feel overwhelming.

There is a lot more help and kindness out there nowadays. But not every type of help works for each individual. So don’t anyone give up.

(ETA: I am fine, my husband is here with me)

 

[JuicyLucy]

Thank you. So it looks like their bounds until yesterday were Earl's Path, the A121 as eastern boundary, and Epping New Road as a western boundary.

Thanks. So Wake Valley Pond may just have been the next place on the list anyway perhaps. Or perhaps they redirected their attention somewhat based on a report from the public or a tip-off. Hard to be sure. It would seem unlikely that it had been searched before though, which is what I was mainly curious about, since, if it had and nothing had been found originally, that would have quite a significant bearing on what could be assumed about his whereabouts all this time. (Assuming that the body that has been found transpires to be Richard, of course - still not confirmed one way or the other afaik.)

jmo

 

[infinit]

Thanks. So Wake Valley Pond may just have been the next place on the list anyway perhaps. Or perhaps they redirected their attention somewhat based on a report from the public or a tip-off. Hard to be sure. It would seem unlikely that it had been searched before though, which is what I was mainly curious about, since, if it had and nothing had been found originally, that would have quite a significant bearing on what could be assumed about his whereabouts all this time. (Assuming that the body that has been found transpires to be Richard, of course - still not confirmed one way or the other afaik.)

jmo

Yeah I agree, considering it was only the 2nd day divers had been used and it was best case the 3rd closest body of water I can't see it having been searched twice properly. Someone might have taken a look if there was anything obvious on the surface before but obviously that doesn't mean there isn't a body.

 

[KHA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1379471899038789635

Latest Met Police statement. No new details but still calls for anyone to come forward if they hold any information.

 

[Puzzles]

“The post-mortem examination will take place shortly and we are also waiting for formal identification,” he said.
Post-mortem due after body found in search for missing student Richard Okorogheye

 

[Winterbells]

Has it actually been stated that the body was found in water?

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

https://mobile.twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1379471899038789635

Latest Met Police statement. No new details but still calls for anyone to come forward if they hold any information.

His words don't shout "it was definitely suicide."

 

[infinit]

Has it actually been stated that the body was found in water?

This tweet states "in a pond": https://mobile.twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1379137863015661568

 

[infinit]

His words don't shout "it was definitely suicide."

His use of the words "extensive inquiry" rather than "extensive investigation" makes me think suicide, but I could be reading too much into 1 word

 

[Winterbells]

This tweet states "in a pond": https://mobile.twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1379137863015661568

Ah, ok, thankyou.

 

[tedtink]

Richard Okorogheye: Police say they are doing 'all we can' after body found in pond at Epping Forest

Police have said they are doing "all we can" to answer questions around the disappearance of Richard Okorogheye after a body was found in Epping Forest on Monday.



Richard Okorogheye: Police say they are doing 'all we can' after body found in pond at Epping Forest

 

[tedtink]

His use of the words "extensive inquiry" rather than "extensive investigation" makes me think suicide, but I could be reading too much into 1 word

If foul play is suspected after PM then it will become an investigation, I believe.

 

[lalalemon]

This is so desperately sad for his poor parents having to wait like this to see if it's him or not.

 

[Ironside]

His words don't shout "it was definitely suicide."

That’s because they need to do a post mortem first. If a body is found in the water it’s unlikely it’s ever going to be announced as a suicide. The police can’t determine if someone slipped or deliberately went in the water.

No suspicious circumstances is probably what will be announced.

 

[Puzzles]

From The Guardian,
Mother of Richard Okorogheye speaks of her devastation

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/04/06/british-police-richard-okorogheye/

 

[Snookysnooky]

I'm wondering if someone found something with the forensics being there yesterday before the discovery?

I'm also wondering why the PM is taking a while?

My mind goes back to the libby squires case, she was obviously found in water after a much longer period of time and the PM didn't seem to take a huge amount of time.

Some one very close to me took their own life last year, it's devastating.

 

[infinit]

I'm also wondering why the PM is taking a while?

It's been a 4 day weekend and because of the nature of the case they might want a pathologist with expertise in bodies found in water for example rather than whoever is on general duty.

 

[sleuthheywood7]

It's been a 4 day weekend and because of the nature of the case they might want someone with an expertise in water bodies for example.

I just looked it up online and they apparently tend to wait until the body has been identified by the family (if this is happening) - once this has occurred the PM can take place. I don't know whether this is common practice in all cases but that and the long weekend as infinit mentioned is probably why it is taking a little longer. JMO