Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #10

[Nancywho]

If they are inspecting the bedroom and asking about certain dates as you say Leopard, sounds to me like they are trying to establish if he brought her to the house (not if he knew her). He was on leave - wife at work, kids at school - maybe). MOO

Kids didn't go back to school until the 8th when UK schools re-opened, so presumably they would've been home.

 

[Mrs Marple]

Very easy to do for a guy, so that's what I think is most likely too.

I agree. I don't believe an independent successful woman would have been duped by the likes of him.

Yes, I imagine the police are wondering whether WC took her to meet his children (head in hands emoji)

This is extremely unlikely. She would have been fighting to get away.

 

[martinwatts5]

We don’t know if he ever stayed in London whilst working. If he did it would have been easy to get up to other things without his wife knowing. If he didn’t it would be more difficult to explain long periods in London such as if he did a 12 hour shift and stayed in London before the tragic events.

 

[smucklecrumble]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a rape alarm?

It’s a portable key ring alarm. My parents bought me one when I first moved to London. It’s so loud when it goes off and has a flashing light on it too.

 

[tigerowl]

I think we should be careful how we judge the wife.

My bloke works shifts, and although I have his shift planner on my phone, he could often be doing overtime or even just deciding to go for a run or pop for an hour in his mams garden when he finishes. It's odd and unsociable hours, but I don't ever suspect anything if he is a couple of hours late home.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Duchess of Cambridge mingles with women mourning British murder victim Sarah Everard, despite ban on crowds

 

[LeopardLeotard]

Sorry to hear that.. if you had then that might have seen you more involved. Good you have them now though.. these last few months must have been really rough so I appreciate you coming on here and being with us

Very welcome as always, and yes actually it would have got me far more involved and I'm just about as close as I think I can handle at mo x

 

[Audiohoney]

He’s actually had quite a bit of time to do clean up/cover up/further offences hasn't he...

He has, but we don’t know how long he was under surveillance for. Did the MET trace the plates of the Astra early on and track him? Would he risk going back and forth knowing he might be being watched? I’m not sure he wasn’t planning to go back to hide her body better, but perhaps wanted to ensure he wasn’t number one suspect first.

 

[Miss_French]

I wonder why there's a supposition he used his card (is that akin to a badge?) Was his missing from his locker?

If he presented himself as a cop, he could well have told her there'd been an emergency and she needed to go with him.

How ever he did it, it must have happened in under a minute.

JMO

Police can carry their warrant card at any time. They can use it as a means of ID or, if off-duty, show it and declare that they are a police officer and put themselves on duty to deal with a situation.

 

[Nikynoo]

Because they live together, because she is his partner! Couples tend to discuss arrangements, outings etc if there is a break, particularly with children at home.

I hate to say it, but this is a generalisation. If I want to have some me time, I don't tell my partner. If he worked shifts, being a busy working mum, would mean less attention to what hubby is doing or what shifts he is working.

 

[SpursGyal]

Kids didn't go back to school until the 8th when UK schools re-opened, so presumably they would've been home.

Both would have been considered key workers/ unable to work from home so the children would have been eligible to attend throughout. If they choose to send them of course.

 

[Bedlam]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a rape alarm?

Its a small device that can be attached to keys, a bag etc that has a button, and when that button is pressed it emits a very, very high pitched, loud alarm / noise. It's used to either deter attackers (they will run because it will draw attention in theory), or alert people that something is happening (and again in theory they may follow the noise because it signals somebody needs help).

 

[Meabh]

https://livetrains.co.uk/jamCams/osm/#00001.03759

Unable to see these cameras from 3rd March between the times of 21:30 - 22:20 (this is a possible route that WC could have taken after the kidnapping..)

 

[LdnPimlico]

I’m new to this site - I’ve been following the SE case and you all seem like an absolutely lovely group of people - such an incredibly sad chain of events - I can’t stop thinking about her poor poor family and how terrified she must have been.

The protest this evening is a difficult one - it’s a very very valid issue and discussion that needs to be raised in public. Sarah’s situation is obviously incredibly rare - but we definitely do live in a culture/society that contributes to individual acts of violence against women. It does seem ironic that so many rapists/sexual predators go unpunished whilst protestors are being handcuffed, but I do also understand that protests may be too soon and may be difficult (understandably) for Sarah’s family and friends at this point, as well as the obvious covid risk. Hopefully if anything Sarah’s death will mean offenses such as flashing are taken more seriously in the future, and such terrible crimes can in some way be prevented.

Not been here long myself but welcome.

I just wanted to echo your unease about the protests - someone posted an article written by a friend of hers which was well written and brought tears to my eyes.

I don't feel the protests about women's safety are invalid at all - but I feel a vigil for Sarah should be just that. As women, we have all been in the position of being afraid and changing our behaviour to accommodate a hostile world. I also think the circumstances are challenging re: faith in the police given the arrest. But we are not all 'Sarah' - her experience was truly horrifying and we should respect that although we can relate to the circumstances of her life, we cannot all relate to what she went through on that night(or the vast majority of us anyway). Her life, particularly her undeserved premature death, deserves to be respected and honoured. Fully in support of cases like this leading to meaningful change in society and people's behaviour, the protests can come later.

 

[suzyjackson]

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a rape alarm?

When I was at university they were given out to students and were like a small areosol loud whistle, I remember once somehow setting it off by sitting on my bag in a lecture

 

[Nancywho]

Both would have been considered key workers/ unable to work from home so the children would have been eligible to attend throughout. If they choose to send them of course.

True - good point! Although would a lab tech be considered essential I wonder?

 

[Nikynoo]

I just keep thinking how it says "he began a 12 hour shift at 7pm before going on leave". Maybe it's how I'm interpreting it (I'm autistic and can be very literal), but it says began rather than completed. MOO

I agree with your analysis

 

[tigerowl]

@LeopardLeotard so sorry to hear you have had such a bad time.

I am an absolute nosey parker so love your updates, but don't take it too far. Check out and go and have a cuddle if this isn't working for you.

 

[martinwatts5]

Yes, so was he hanging around in London on the 3rd? Had he seen SE earlier in the evening?

Because they live together, because she is his partner! Couples tend to discuss arrangements, outings etc if there is a break, particularly with children at home.

Why would he discuss his leave if he wanted to pretend he was working but do ‘other things’?

 

[LeopardLeotard]

We trust and appreciate you LL. Three Irish coffees?

You just reminded me lol, I'm putting the kettle on lol