Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #10

[Creamcheese]

Police friend told me there’s no padded cells so WC will be constantly watched by police and restrained if necessary

Also apparently it’s common for head bashing

 

[Inspectorbee1234]

It will be interesting to see what his plea is. I hope this ba#tard talks. It’s the least he can do!!

Why is it now he only tries to kill himself? Why not when he had these urges? What a narcissist

Imagine if he was never caught on that dashcam. No one would have ever known what happened to her or imagined she was so far away from where she went missing.

It begs the question, how often does this type of thing happen?! We are supposed to feel safe around police.

 

[MsBetsy]

What I’m saying is he is referring to the information that is I every link posted on every previous thread. He didn’t disclose any new information that would need a link. SE was seen on doorbell cam and when cross referenced with dashcam footage it showed WC in some capacity. Obviously, they couldn’t have spotted him before the doorbell footage on dashcam because she would still be alive. Do you know what I mean? IMO

Yes, I think it's just a matter of confusing "dash cam" with "doorbell" footage and it's not a big deal. Imo

 

[Alyce]

What I’m saying is he is referring to the information that is I every link posted on every previous thread. He didn’t disclose any new information that would need a link. SE was seen on doorbell cam and when cross referenced with dashcam footage it showed WC in some capacity. Obviously, they couldn’t have spotted him before the doorbell footage on dashcam because she would still be alive. Do you know what I mean? IMO

But that is not the same as saying WC was seen on the doorbell vid.
I have seen all the links regarding both the bus and dashcam and understand how placement of
Sarah on the doorbell and WC on the bus and dashcam assisted police in their investigation.

But Otto was advising that WC had also been captured on the doorbell vid - which is something that I, and several others it seems, have not seen in any msm link on here or in fact on line anywhere.
I was particularly interested in this new information, because capturing WC on the doorbell ( as well as the bus and dashcam ) would, imo, have possiby led to even earlier detection.

 

[Firstsnow4]

No, we didn't all know that but I can't comment on whether you are going mad (-;

No we definitely didn’t know that hence why I picked it up earlier

 

[Lod76]

I wasn't aware that had been confirmed, I thought there were reports they'd potentially identified him from CCTV from a bus and/or from a dashcam. And that could mean just from images of the vehicle which they then traced back to him.

My understanding too and it was Sarah that was last seen on a doorbell cam. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the police have a lot more footage than we know about. The quality and widespread use of these cameras these days you can't walk anywhere being unobserved. I bought one recently and was amazed at the quality and the range which it picks up.

 

[juniper6]

You guys keep mentioning “new” and vital information. There isn’t any. SE was seen on doorbell cam. LE flagged the location and reviewed other sources of video and established WC as a suspect. The doorbell cam is the key because it’s when she was last seen. Any footage after that is contingent on the doorbell cam.

 

[suzyjackson]

Yes, I think it's just a matter of confusing "dash cam" with "doorbell" footage and it's not a big deal. Imo

Gosh, that a huge deal IMO those are two totally different leads and pieces of evidence

IMO

 

[MsBetsy]

Thank you, I do know that abbreviation but I thought it meant the person who started a thread which is what confused me as I know only the mods start threads here and that didn't seem to fit

Clearly I need to re-read to understand

The OP usually refers to the post that was quoted, since we're not supposed to discuss other members. Sorry Otto!

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

I don't know if WC himself or the car he was driving was caught on doorbell/bus CCTV (probably have to wait for the trial to confirm these details) but I do think the Met were on to him in any case on day 3/4 when they suddenly shifted the case to the Specialist Crime Command and started talking about it being a complex case. They could have had him under surveillance on the 7th, 8th or 9th visiting the Ashford site during his commute to/from work for all we know?

 

[Inspectorbee1234]

I’ve not heard of him being seen on a doorbell camera and that is indeed a huge difference to being seen on the dashcam

 

[Inspectorbee1234]

So does he enter a plea this morning?

 

[sundaaaay]

Imagine if he was never caught on that dashcam. No one would have ever known what happened to her

People on previous threads were saying he was sloppy but there isn’t anything sloppy about this. The only reason he was caught because of public interest and as far as we know the luck of police locating his rental car on dash cam footage near where she disappeared.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Nor had I that’s why I asked - Otto is verified expert though so may not need a link

Just to clarify - we have many verified experts on this forum, covering a very diverse range of occupations pertaining to the forum - law, police, medicine, criminology etc. Their general advice and input is absolutely invaluable and they do not have to provide links.

Then we have VI’s who are Verified Insiders usually of a particular case - friends or family perhaps, members who literally have first hand knowledge of the case and the people involved. As far as I know we don’t have any VI’s for this specific case.

Hope that helps explain a bit!

 

[SpursGyal]

So does he enter a plea this morning?

No IF he speaks it will be to confirm his name. His case will be sent to crown.

 

[Alyce]

You guys keep mentioning “new” and vital information. There isn’t any. SE was seen on doorbell cam. LE flagged the location and reviewed other sources of video and established WC as a suspect. The doorbell cam is the key because it’s when she was last seen. Any footage after that is contingent on the doorbell cam.

I think we are going to have to agree to differ Juniper.

Of course the doorbell vid was extremely important for identifying Sarah's last sighting and helping to link to the later bus and dashcam footage of WC. However, the information I was querying was the statement that WC was also captured on the doorbell vid - which is something I have not seen reported anywhere.

 

[MsBetsy]

Gosh, that a huge deal IMO those are two totally different leads and pieces of evidence

IMO

Well I guess until the OP wakes up or returns to the thread we'll have to wait. Until then I'm assuming it was a mistake.

It still remains that the footage from all three cameras, and possibly more, were used in order to place the actor in the same vicinity as the victim. Imo

 

[Inspectorbee1234]

I’m sure this has probably been posted already but:

CPS Head of Special Crime Rosemary Ainslie said: “Criminal proceedings are now active and nothing should be published that could jeopardise the defendant’s right to a fair trial.”

Please bear this in mind

 

[Vevvie]

My daughter has a ring doorbell. The images from them are very clear and quite wide. Hers caught someone who had broken into a car and sitting in it for a while. He didn’t steal the car but police came and looked at it as was happening lots in the area. And obviously discussed in residents groups.

 

[suzyjackson]

The OP usually refers to the post that was quoted, since we're not supposed to discuss other members. Sorry Otto!

I hope I have been breaking the rules, I tagged Otto, I thought it was Ok to do that or quote the post.

I've not posted here for a while before this case and have got used to another forum I use where PP (previous poster) is the abbreviation for this

Thank you for clarifying, hard to keep track sometimes