Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #11

[asyousay]

It’s Mother’s Day in the UK today so I’m sure this will be extra hard on the family. Just the first of many events that will forever be changed for the whole family.

 

[Audiohoney]

We do not have details of the booking with the rental company

I think the OP is referring to WC having his leave from work prebooked - as opposed to the hire car.

 

[Bethan]

Two points made by other posters, which I think may be particularly noteworthy;

1) The assailant may have sprayed a substance into the face of the victim & when vulnerable bundled her into the car (....it could look to a passing motorist as if he was helping her into the car)

Anything sprayed in the eyes would incapacitate her ( as would a sharp blow to the nose or a poke in the eye)

2) The police will have ( quite quickly I imagine) located the car used in the abduction & forensically examined it.

If they have found blood evidence, they can say with confidence that Sarah was abducted by force ( not necessarily based on camera footage)

They have no reason to release this information to the public.

 

[LucyRocket]

I think that due to the seriousness of the case and the fact a serving police officer is accused, that the trial will be expedited and could take place later this year.

MOO

Are they still behind in other areas? We seem to be on usual timescales here. An acquaintance of mine killed his mother a couple of weeks ago and his trial will be in October. That's an average timescale here

 

[kittythehare]

He was at work wasn’t he?

Going on the laws on in this country if she worked it was from home. I highly doubt she would of bumped into him that day. Even if she went for her daily exercise the odds of seeing him would be pretty remote as he worked in a different area than Brixton.

IMO

He was not at work

 

[AgathapisdT]

Has there been mention of when and if the hire car was returned?

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[kittythehare]

Has there been mention of when and if the hire car was returned?

Edit of typo

I've not seen it.

 

[KayUK]

'On March 2 he began a 12-hour shift at 7pm before going on leave.
He was due back at work on March 8 but on March 5 he reported that he was suffering from stress.
On March 6 he emailed his supervisor to say he did not want to carry a firearm anymore'.
Sorry Im new and haven't got the hang of links

 

[asyousay]

I have to say I agree with you, and whilst I agree with the sentiment of the vigil/protest there is a time and a place and I don't think this was it.

I also dont think it should have been done in Sarah's name as he friends have quite clearly said she would not have wanted that and I think that should have been respected.

I wholeheartedly agree.

We are in the middle of a pandemic and after everybody’s been forced into lockdown for the 3rd time in a year and finally rates are coming down after months and months. This event was cancelled for good reason as it’s stupid to have mass people gathered together at the moment after all the suffering we have had to go though in this country in the last year.


The lightening of candles at home and leaving on the doorstep was a lovely suggestion and hopefully in June when we are back out memorials can be held safely and change can slowly happen.

 

[Mandalas]

I wondered at first if it was his mobile phone in a (rather futile) attempt to damage it? One has to question how off guard he was taken if he can’t even hide a tiny SD card. Surely something so small could be easily hidden in a huge variety of places or flushed down the toilet.

Yes, very strange! With the police knocking at the door, and most likely surrounding the house, it's a bizarre move to throw something out the window, and seems more indicative to me of his disorganised, panicked state of mind at the time. Were the police in the house at this point?

If it was the SD card, why didn't he just swallow it or similar? Could it have been something else? We don't actually know that it was a phone or SD card..... Hard to think what else it could have been, maybe the weapon he had emailed work about, to prevent himself from doing anything stupid? Mind you, I can imagine if he'd had a weapon, given his likely state of mind and recent behaviour, he may well have tried to harm himself or others. All speculation until we know.

 

[Juliet B]

Thank you so much I wasn’t aware of this. I understand now also that she could have been bailed whilst the CPS makes a decision too. Do you think it’s right to assume it means a charge is still being considered? I guess what I mean is, if they are confident there wasn’t enough or any evidence presume they would have just released her with no instructions?

I think Christopher Jeffries and other high profile suspects (later found to be innocent) were released on bail. I wouldn’t read more into it - she hasn’t been charged is the most significant thing I think.

 

[Sleepysleuther]

He was at work wasn’t he?

Going on the laws on in this country if she worked it was from home. I highly doubt she would of bumped into him that day. Even if she went for her daily exercise the odds of seeing him would be pretty remote as he worked in a different area than Brixton.

IMO

Perhaps she walked the same route to her friends house earlier in the day/evening.

 

[Commoner]

The Met needed to use some brains on this one. We saw last week a mass gathering of football supporters - treated with respect by the police. All reports are that it was a peaceful vigil until the police started moving people on. The optics on this are terrible, police force being used against women at a vigil for a woman murdered by someone in the police (allegedly).
Politicians, media, social media for all sides are condemning the police today.

They are.

But I was there, and the peaceful vigil was undisturbed- zero police action

The police did not move in until getting on for 7pm (at least 20 minutes after a distinct change of mood, and people were still arriving. The crowd was much bigger than during the vigil, and had become a protest.

The above is based on what I saw whilst I was there

After the vigil, it became a protest. That is what was broken up. I left just before the police moved in, because I was no longer comfortable being there. I did not see the police conduct during the crowd dispersal

 

[Cornishgirl21]

my views is it was deliberately planned there were a number of groups there with an agenda imo , they knew it was illegal to be there , they were after the photos of them scuffling with the police, it looks so staged , the genuine people went and laid flowers, stood for a moment with candle and left , others were there looking for trouble and to show the police in a bad light imo , they knew full well it had been cancelled and it would be illegal to gather there as that is what had clearly been communicated to everyone.

Agree with this. There appears in my opinion to be people that are just angry or upset with everything currently and especially lockdown so can’t help but feel it was another excuse for them to be out under the pretence of the vigil for SE. Really sad compared to the beautiful scenes of the earlier vigil.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Has there been mention of when and if the hire car was returned?

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I've wondered this too, was it returned, was it stored somewhere else like the garage or was it dumped and burned out?

 

[Audiohoney]

Yes, very strange! With the police knocking at the door, and most likely surrounding the house, it's a bizarre move to throw something out the window, and seems more indicative to me of his disorganised, panicked state of mind at the time. Were the police in the house at this point?

If it was the SD card, why didn't he just swallow it or similar? Could it have been something else? We don't actually know that it was a phone or SD card..... Hard to think what else it could have been, maybe the weapon he had emailed work about, to prevent himself from doing anything stupid? Mind you, I can imagine if he'd had a weapon, given his likely state of mind and recent behaviour, he may well have tried to harm himself or others. All speculation until we know.

Swallow it, crush it, flush it, hide it under the carpet .. so many options. To throw it out of the window seems panicked and as you say, bizarre. But yes, it could absolutely point to his unhinged thinking. Just a blind panic to get rid of evidence.

In terms of a weapon, he would not be allowed to bring his gun home from work. So he’d have to hold a private firearms license. If he did so, he’d have to have a gun cabinet with the weapon/s securely looked away. With two young children in the house, he’d be stupid not to adhere to this. I can’t see it being a gun.

A mobile phone is possible IMO. In the hope it would smash. Again, pretty dumb and futile. But he might hope it would destroy traceable contents. That could be anything from GPS tracking to web history.

 

[Blanche]

isn't an SD card really small? would that have been something that they would have noticed being thrown from a window?

 

[Winterbells]

too many people politising poor Sarah's death

snipped by me for focus
But Sarah's death, like the abuse/rape/murder of all women by men IS a political issue. Abuse of power. And it's particularly galling when it's at the hands of someone with more power than most.

 

[indicolite22]

He boils my blood as he does this awful act and he has time to cover his tracks as he is off work for a week and he probably hides out at home.

This is where the wife surely comes in as if he is emailing work and he is freaking out how can she not know something is going on at home?

It feels like Ian Huntley & Maxine Carr where for some reason these women have suspicions but don’t make the right choices IMO

How should the wife have known about his inclinations and past incidents? IMO it's perfectly plausible that he hid his nefarious activities from her and she had no idea why he was stressed. He could have given her other reasons or had a known mental health issue that wasn't picked up on at work. Reportedly he was on leave often.

 

[Salsabil89]

Dover will definitely have several car rental agencies, unlike many other Kent towns, who may have one or two and be on reduced hours. Dover would be ideal place for car rental, possibly near 24 hour opening, especially with all the ferries and passengers to/from France. Plus, Dover is close to Deal where WC lives.

Just catching up with thread so this may have been raised already; WC worked 20 odd years in motor trade in Dover so could possibly have connections with rental companies and access to vehicles 'off the record' - cash payment, avoid credit card? Just a thought, speculative of course.

 

[indicolite22]

snipped by me for focus
But Sarah's death, like the abuse/rape/murder of all women by men IS a political issue. Abuse of power. And it's particularly galling when it's at the hands of someone with more power than most.

Do we know that he used his police credentials in the attack at all?