UK UK - Sarah Wellgreen, 46, Kent, 9 Oct 2018 #2 *B. Lacomba guilty*

[Mommysleuth11]

He was also accused of taking Sarah's iphone to that same area on the afternoon(?) of the 11th.. why would police have video of the 14th, but not the 11th, and if they did have it (which I haven't heard it said that they do), why didn't they mention?
All this time I think I had been under the impression that BL had been accused of disposing of Sarah's phones as well as his own?? But if we now hear that S's iphone has been missing since SHE went missing.. (playing devil's advocate here), is it possible she left the house with her iphone in hand? But wouldn't police have been able to track it through records from cellphone provider and cell towers?

Except the first attending Police Officer gave evidenve to say BL had been showing her messages on SW phone from the bf from the night before she went missing. Those messages were imessages so it can only have been the iphone he was showing the officer. I think the prosecution challenged him on it yesterday?

 

[Delisa]

Thanks I have now seen the silly shoes lol

 

[Alyce]

Miss Morgan continued: 'You called your mum in desperation because you needed help with the children. Why on earth would she leave just 11 minutes later?'

Lacomba told the court he could not remember, but added his mother had 'come round in quite a rush' and may have forgotten her medication.




Taxi driver accused of killing Sarah Wellgreen tells court shovel found in shed was present for mum | Daily Mail Online

 

[Alyce]

Mr Lacomba, of Bazes Shaw, said he accepted that a lot of what had been said and shown to the court did not look good for him.


Can't argue with him on that



Murder accused says shovel was gift for his mum

 

[Mrs Marple]

The shovel is apparently 5ft long according to the above link!! What the hell....?

Edited to add snip:

'The jury was shown the shovel - which is 1.66m (5ft 5in) long and was found in a shed in the defendant's back garden - and Mr Lacomba was handed it in the witness box and asked to "feel the weight".'

If it has soil on it though that could hold a clue to the grave location.

 

[Mrs Marple]

It could well be the same HEIGHT as is mother !!!! Ridiculous

 

[chimpface]

How could his mum do it, even in her 50's and probably fitter than made out to be.

It could well be the same HEIGHT as is mother !!!! Ridiculous

Snipped and BBM.

Can I just point out I assume the top poster has made a mistake when reading the court transcript. ML was born in 1953 so would be in her late 60's rather than "in her 50's", quite a difference at that age.

 

[Mommysleuth11]

I think she has to be very close to where his car was last tracked on cctv.

His car was caught 8 (?) times on various different cameras, during a reasonably short journey, apologies im unsure the total distance but 20 mins or less on country lanes. Then nothing, nothing at all?? If he had of gone any real distance at some point there would have been another camera somewhere that would have clocked him. The last cctv sighting HAS to be very close to final resting place. MOO

 

[Mrs Marple]

Snipped and BBM.

Can I just point out I assume the top poster has made a mistake when reading the court transcript. ML was born in 1953 so would be in her late 60's rather than "in her 50's", quite a difference at that age.

Thanks, l was wondering if baby BL was born when the Mothership was quite/very young

 

[chimpface]

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Picture really reminded me of the below

 

[Alyce]

I think she has to be very close to where his car was last tracked on cctv.

His car was caught 8 (?) times on various different cameras, during a reasonably short journey, apologies im unsure the total distance but 20 mins or less on country lanes. Then nothing, nothing at all?? If he had of gone any real distance at some point there would have been another camera somewhere that would have clocked him. The last cctv sighting HAS to be very close to final resting place. MOO

I think the bulk of those 2 hours were spent in digging and looks as though there's plenty of fairly dense woodland once he gets past Littlefields. Plus he would want to stop soonest and get the job done, so he could get back home before he was missed.

 

[Mrs Marple]

I think the bulk of those 2 hours were spent in digging and looks as though there's plenty of fairly dense woodland once he gets past Littlefields. Plus he would want to stop soonest and get the job done, so he could get back home before he was missed.

That's what l was thinking too. He needed to get there and back as quickly as possible.

Apart from what he has done, who would leave two young children by themselves in the middle of the night? What if there had been a fire??

 

[Websleuther08]

The shovel is apparently 5ft long according to the above link!! What the hell....?

Edited to add snip:

'The jury was shown the shovel - which is 1.66m (5ft 5in) long and was found in a shed in the defendant's back garden - and Mr Lacomba was handed it in the witness box and asked to "feel the weight".'

If it has soil on it though that could hold a clue to the grave location.

That spade is as tall as me! Crazy.

And yes I was thinking that on the pic posted on here with the soil all over the end of the spade. I was hoping that they could get a specialist who deals with soil and planting etc to take a look... They did this with Ian Huntley and that's how they also linked him to the disappearance of the two girls because of the relationship of the soil matching either him or his car (can't recall). It can't be far where BL took her, an hr or less away. The problem is how long is a piece of string? There could still be anywhere she could be, with lots of soil in that area. It would still be very difficult to know exactly where she is. Imagine digging up every square inch of land in that radius.

It's so disappointing that he voluntarily had the choice to give up his phone and has now destroyed any evidence.

 

[Miss Scarlet]

Pretty much the whole of the search radius is countryside. She could literally be anywhere, even though the searches have been extensive.
What if the shovel(s) are pre planned red herrings?
I’m trying to think outside of the box a little.

 

[Alyce]

That's what l was thinking too. He needed to get there and back as quickly as possible.

Apart from what he has done, who would leave two young children by themselves in the middle of the night? What if there had been a fire??

I've just been having a ramble down some of those lanes - there's plenty of trees but he would also need to drive off road somewhere and for sure it has to be a spot he knows about - can't see him spending any time searching that night. Very likely had done a recce or two in the previous weeks or months even.

 

[Alyce]

That spade is as tall as me! Crazy.

And yes I was thinking that on the pic posted on here with the soil all over the end of the spade. I was hoping that they could get a specialist who deals with soil and planting etc to take a look... They did this with Ian Huntley and that's how they also linked him to the disappearance of the two girls because of the relationship of the soil matching either him or his car (can't recall). It can't be far where BL took her, an hr or less away. The problem is how long is a piece of string? There could still be anywhere she could be, with lots of soil in that area. It would still be very difficult to know exactly where she is. Imagine digging up every square inch of land in that radius.

It's so disappointing that he voluntarily had the choice to give up his phone and has now destroyed any evidence.

I think in the testimony they said - unfortunately - that the soil was not dissimilar to soil found in the New Ash Green area.

 

[Mrs Marple]

Pretty much the whole of the search radius is countryside. She could literally be anywhere, even though the searches have been extensive.
What if the shovel(s) are pre planned red herrings?
I’m trying to think outside of the box a little.

Well yes there is a lot of countryside. But for a start much of it is agricultural land. That can be discounted imho. The land is being turned over regularly. The only exception might be a wooded area in the middle of a field. That would hardly ever be accessed.

Sarah is well hidden, but in an area that has some vehicle access. It points to a publicly accessible place to me, but a pretty large one, possibly with wooded areas where people are less likely to venture.

 

[Kaykedi]

It could well be the same HEIGHT as is mother !!!! Ridiculous

And him!

 

[chimpface]

And him!

Well spotted, 168cm = 5'5"!

 

[Mommysleuth11]

I dont like to throw shade on the Police particularly but, i cant help shake the feeling they missed so many opportunities to secure evidence. Its almost as if they have picked out a few snippets, without actually following them through to fruition and hope that the fact 'it doesnt look good' is enough.

The phones, the bedding, his clothing/footwear, his vehicle. Given their suspicions about BL, im wondering why they didnt secure more evidence in a more timely manner snd why he wasnt under 24hr surveilence once he was bailed.

Maybe these things were follewed up and nothing came of it, but if that were the case you would think the defence would be ALL over the lack of findings.

All JMO.