UK UK - Sarah Wellgreen, 46, Kent, 9 Oct 2018 #2 *B. Lacomba guilty*

[Alyce]

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Timeline | Sarah Wellgreen disappearance


2004: Ben Lacomba and Sarah Wellgreen meet online. They enter into a long-distance relationship before she moves to live with him in Majorca, taking her two children from her previous relationship with her. Whilst in Spain, they have their first child together.

2006: Lacomba and Ms Wellgreen move back to the UK due to financial issues.

2012: Lacomba and Ms Wellgreen have two more children.

2014: The couple separate but remain living together in the family home.

July 12-13 2018: Ms Wellgreen contacts a mortgage broker about buying Lacomba out of their house.

Aug 7: Ms Wellgreen contacts the mortgage broker again confirming that she wishes for them to act for her.

Aug 15: The mortgage broker sends Ms Wellgreen a mortgage quotation. She confirms that she wishes to proceed.

Sept 13: Ms Wellgreen is informed that the mortgage has been approved.

Sept 21: Ms Wellgreen applies for a job as a business development manager.

Oct 8: Ms Wellgreen is offered the job, which comes with a pay rise and company car. She accepts the next day.

Oct 9:
9.30am: Lacomba’s first taxi job of the day.

4.50pm: Lacomba drops off his last customer of the day in Sevenoaks and then books off work.

Oct 10:
8.30am: Lacomba arrives at his children’s school and speaks to staff about a school trip his children are booked on.

10.34am: Lacomba’s first taxi job of the day.

1.34pm: Lacombadrops off his last customer of the day and books off work.

Oct 11:
9.55am: Lacombatelephones the police to report Ms Wellgreen missing.

Police search the family home.

Oct 12: Police search family home again.

Oct 14: Police visit the home a further time.

Oct 16:
Police seize Lacomba’s Vauxhall car.

c.12.20pm: Lacomba attends Dartford County Court seeking a residence order for his children, saying that Ms Wellgreen was officially missing.

1.55pm: Lacomba is arrested for the first time in Dartford.

Oct 19:
11.50am: Lacomba is released on police bail.

Police search the family home a further time. Two shovels are seized from the shed. They also seize a silver metal box containing various personal documents, including Sarah Wellgreen’s passport, her birth certificate, marriage certificate and a Spanish identity card.

Nov 2: Police conduct a further search of the family home.

Dec 20:
6.45am: Lacomba is arrested for a second time.

7.40pm:Lacomba is charged with the murder of Sarah Wellgreen.

Dec 21: Police conduct another search of the family home and seize a further shovel from the shed.

Oct 28 2019: Lacomba is convicted of murder at Woolwich Crown Court.




Taxi driver Ben Lacomba found guilty of murdering missing mother Sarah Wellgreen

 

[hitthenick]

Does anyone have any feelings for the length of his sentence he’ll receive?

Ive got a little gut feeling he will get a whole life tariff for this unless he coughs up where he has put her, doubt he will ever do that though considering his behaviour through this whole thing.

 

[Delisa]

In one of the articles the police say they know there was no involvement from anybody else but I don't trust the way it's said.

There is absolutely no way ML did not help or have a clue or assist in any way shape or form.

I was wondering if the police have said this for the sake of the children. If there is nobody else to look after them except ML then maybe the police have decided to let it go because those children have been through too much and could end up in care if she gets in trouble for being involved and no alternative carers can be found.

I hope they are with Sarah's family and that she's not looking after the children though because she will be confusing them and filling their heads with all kinds of twisted BS about their mum and stuff about BL because let's face it, she's not going to tell them the truth.

It will either be Daddy is innocent or Daddy did it coz mummy was not very nice or made him do it. Either way it's psychological abuse as far as I'm concerned.

I hope the children are away from her and being cared for and supported properly God love them

 

[Delisa]

Does anyone have any feelings for the length of his sentence he’ll receive?

Ive got a little gut feeling he will get a whole life tariff for this unless he coughs up where he has put her, doubt he will ever do that though considering his behaviour through this whole thing.

I reckon he's arrogant enough to think he can still get away with it and appeal

 

[mrazda71]

Does anyone have any feelings for the length of his sentence he’ll receive?

Ive got a little gut feeling he will get a whole life tariff for this unless he coughs up where he has put her, doubt he will ever do that though considering his behaviour through this whole thing.

19 - 22 years ... I'd highly doubt that he'll get a whole life sentence for this.

Although there was almost certainly pre-planning - it's his first crime, no torture or sexual element etc ... 2 of the more recent whole life sentences handed out were Mark Bridger and Jamie Reynolds and as awful as this murder is, especially without the family at least being able to have any closure (I hate that word but,) Ben Lacomba is not on the same level as Bridger and Reynolds. IMO

 

[Chambo1994]

100% he’ll appeal first before any admission or body reveal will even be considered... battle won, but war upcoming

 

[deugirtni]

That didn't prove to be the case and it was that evidence that allowed us to say 'you lied about your whereabouts. You weren't at home in bed, you were killing Sarah Wellgreen in a rural part of Kent'.

Snipped and BBM what in a what now?? Is that poor wording or do they think she wasn't murdered at home???!

I think they might just mean that NAG is a rural part of Kent ? Not sure,but we havent heard any evidence to say that Sarah was taken from the house alive - but then again, we havent heard much evidence at all.

“No other person came to that house that night, Sarah didn’t walk out of there by herself and Lacomba had clearly researched how to leave the area without being seen – or so he thought.

From LB's post up above

 

[deugirtni]

Does anyone have any feelings for the length of his sentence he’ll receive?

Ive got a little gut feeling he will get a whole life tariff for this unless he coughs up where he has put her, doubt he will ever do that though considering his behaviour through this whole thing.

Would it be possible at this late stage for BL to make a deal to reduce his sentence if he leads them to where the body is located?

 

[Alyce]

In one of the articles the police say they know there was no involvement from anybody else but I don't trust the way it's said.There is absolutely no way ML did not help or have a clue or assist in any way shape or form.I was wondering if the police have said this for the sake of the children. If there is nobody else to look after them except ML then maybe the police have decided to let it go because those children have been through too much and could end up in care if she gets in trouble for being involved and no alternative carers can be found.I hope they are with Sarah's family and that she's not looking after the children though because she will be confusing them and filling their heads with all kinds of twisted BS about their mum and stuff about BL because let's face it, she's not going to tell them the truth.
It will either be Daddy is innocent or Daddy did it coz mummy was not very nice or made him do it. Either way it's psychological abuse as far as I'm concerned.
I hope the children are away from her and being cared for and supported properly God love them

Far as we know, they are with SWs family. The 2 elder boys are next of kin ( well apart from BL and he doesn't count now ) and are both adults, so able to be guardians I would think. Plus SWs parents.
I hope they have no contact whatsoever with ML or JL ( husband ) - that won't be good for them in any way.

 

[Alyce]

19 - 22 years ... I'd highly doubt that he'll get a whole life sentence for this.

Although there was almost certainly pre-planning - it's his first crime, no torture or sexual element etc ... 2 of the more recent whole life sentences handed out were Mark Bridger and Jamie Reynolds and as awful as this murder is, especially without the family at least being able to have any closure (I hate that word but,) Ben Lacomba is not on the same level as Bridger and Reynolds. IMO

I agree, I can't see him getting more than 25 years at a max ( and that's more me hoping he will get this, could be less ).
I also think he will appeal the length of sentence, although not sure what reasoning he would be able to provide.

 

[mrazda71]

Would it be possible at this late stage for BL to make a deal to reduce his sentence if he leads them to where the body is located?

I'm pretty sure that's a big No.

Before trial begins, yes. Even at the start of trial the judge may be willing to show some leniency but at this point no.

There is a new (proposed maybe, not sure it's in black and white yet ) law here called Helen's Law which would mean that he wouldn't be eligible for parole unless he sits where she is.

Killers face parole refusal over hidden bodies

 

[Legally Bland]

Would it be possible at this late stage for BL to make a deal to reduce his sentence if he leads them to where the body is located?

I don't think so, but there's a new law coming in which requires the parole board to take into account whether the convict has revealed the location of the body in these cases when it comes round to his earliest release date.

 

[Alyce]

Would it be possible at this late stage for BL to make a deal to reduce his sentence if he leads them to where the body is located?

Really not sure on that one. If - and I think it's a big if - he did tell where Sarah is, I doubt it would help him now. He has put the system through the cost of a trial, plus the extra stress and agony for the family, so I can't see him getting much leniency at this late stage.

 

[hitthenick]

In one of the articles the police say they know there was no involvement from anybody else but I don't trust the way it's said.

There is absolutely no way ML did not help or have a clue or assist in any way shape or form.

I was wondering if the police have said this for the sake of the children. If there is nobody else to look after them except ML then maybe the police have decided to let it go because those children have been through too much and could end up in care if she gets in trouble for being involved and no alternative carers can be found.

I hope they are with Sarah's family and that she's not looking after the children though because she will be confusing them and filling their heads with all kinds of twisted BS about their mum and stuff about BL because let's face it, she's not going to tell them the truth.

It will either be Daddy is innocent or Daddy did it coz mummy was not very nice or made him do it. Either way it's psychological abuse as far as I'm concerned.

I hope the children are away from her and being cared for and supported properly God love them

I strongly feel if the police knew or suspected his mother to be involved then she’d have been arrested. No way will the police let that slip for the sake of the kids. For me she is 100% complicit in this, I’d go as far to say that I wouldn’t be surprised if she knows where Ben has left her.

 

[Chambo1994]

I strongly feel if the police knew or suspected his mother to be involved then she’d have been arrested.

She may have been arrested, they often can’t release details in this situation!

There was a murder case in my village in 2016, the culprits sister was caught on CCTV stripping him down and taking his clothes away, she was arrested, but there was no report in any of the press, local or national.

She wasn’t charged until after he was sentenced and the went through a separate trial.

So I’m not sure if that could be the same as this case, she would have to have the chance of a fair trial...?

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Im away for a couple of days but just read of our BL on the News! Quicker decision than was expecting. Catch up soon

Svs

 

[mrazda71]

She may have been arrested, they often can’t release details in this situation!

There was a murder case in my village in 2016, the culprits sister was caught on CCTV stripping him down and taking his clothes away, she was arrested, but there was no report in any of the press, local or national.

She wasn’t charged until after he was sentenced and the went through a separate trial.

So I’m not sure if that could be the same as this case, she would have to have the chance of a fair trial...?

Oooh any more info on that? Would be interested in reading?

 

[Alyce]

Just adding this in here as don't know if there is a separate thread - I was not aware of this case, so all credit goes to Amonet who flagged it up to me today.

Second verdict today - both Kent, both with body never found. Jury went out on Friday for this one.


A man has been found guilty of murdering his pregnant wife and disposing of her body 20 years ago.

Debbie Griggs has not been seen since she disappeared from the family home in Deal, Kent, on 5 May 1999.

Jurors at Canterbury Crown Court rejected Andrew Griggs's claims that his wife, then aged 34, had walked out on him and their three young sons.

Griggs, of St Leonards in Dorset, was convicted of her murder and will be sentenced on Wednesday.

The body of Mrs Griggs has never been found.

 

[GimmeAclueBlue]

Just adding this in here as don't know if there is a separate thread - I was not aware of this case, so all credit goes to Amonet who flagged it up to me today.

Second verdict today - both Kent, both with body never found. Jury went out on Friday for this one.


A man has been found guilty of murdering his pregnant wife and disposing of her body 20 years ago.

Debbie Griggs has not been seen since she disappeared from the family home in Deal, Kent, on 5 May 1999.

Jurors at Canterbury Crown Court rejected Andrew Griggs's claims that his wife, then aged 34, had walked out on him and their three young sons.

Griggs, of St Leonards in Dorset, was convicted of her murder and will be sentenced on Wednesday.

The body of Mrs Griggs has never been found.

Jesus kent are not getting a good run. Dont know what it says for local LE ...2 in a row never been found!
I hope we found out that LE did more than we thought in SW case as it seemed they missed quite a few opportunities to take evidence etc.
Poor kids though

 

[Alyce]

Ms Wellgreen's son said "justice has been served" after Lacomba was found guilty.

In a statement given to the media after the hearing, Jack Burdett, 22, said: "Thanks to all members of the court, including the jury members, also to the excellent team at Kent Police for all their hard work.

"We would also like to thank all the community searchers for their efforts to find our mum.

"The family are pleased and happy with the result today. Justice has been served."

Lacomba is due to be sentenced at 10.15am on November 8 at Woolwich Crown Court.


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