UK UK - Sarah Wellgreen, 46, Kent, 9 Oct 2018

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  • #141
Yes, maybe that is how LE determined where to conduct their searches, by going from his phone's GPS history... so many possibilities. Hope they get a break in the case soon.
 
  • #142
The heartbroken son of a missing mother-of-five has wished her a happy birthday in an emotional online tribute as the search for her continues.

Lewis Burdett, 22, posted the message on Facebook addressed to mother Sarah Wellgreen on her 47th birthday, two months after she disappeared.

In the Facebook post Mr Burdett said: 'I just wanted to to say happy birthday to the most amazing woman I have ever known, my mum Sarah Wellgreen.

'We all miss you so much, all of our family will still be celebrating your special day and we always will.

'We all love you so much mum and wish you were here to spend this day with us.'

Ms Wellgreen's partner, Neil James, 45, also posted an emotional message addressed to her online.

Heartbroken son pays emotional tribute to missing mother on her 47th birthday | Daily Mail Online
 
  • #143
While the police are looking over here, I am looking over there...

I don't like what I see. Two and a half weeks after the disappearance and all these past tense references. Has he given up hope so soon?

'We were going to get married. We were going to do it over in Spain.

'She looked at Guildford Registry office and we were going to go over to Spain to have a wedding ceremony.

'I don't know whether she told the family. But we'd looked into it and we'd planned what we wanted.

'She was looking at all these different places, but particularly Mallorca as that's where she's got Spanish friends.

'She kept in touch with people on Mallorca and we went there last year with the kids. It was a happy place for her.'


Sarah Wellgreen's ex-partner's father says son 'has done nothing wrong' | Daily Mail Online

I was heartbroken, but Sarah felt she had to put the children first. She was very stressed over the situation with her ex, and worried that she could lose her kids, and they meant everything to her.'

HE SAYS: 'She told me she had a new boyfriend. I saw a photo on Facebook of her with a man who looked to be in his 20s and as if he might be Turkish, though the photo was taken in the UK — that was the last picture I saw of Sarah.'

We got back together because I still loved her and she realised she still loved me.


Sarah Wellgreen's partner still baffled how mother-of-five vanished | Daily Mail Online

Last person to speak to her...first person to send a message to "Honey". I am SUSPICIOUS. Probably wrong! but very SUSPICIOUS. I think she left him.

MOO
 
  • #144
Now that is an interesting theory Tortoise ;)
 
  • #145
I do wonder how often homeowners with cctv check their cameras to make sure they are working. If there is no break in or damage I wouldn't think you'd check the cameras very often to make sure they are working, unlike say shops which monitor their cameras continually for shoplifters. What if the cameras had been disabled a week earlier while everyone was out. Maybe there is a way of approaching the house without being seen on camera. Then what if the perpetrator called her and said I'm outside, come and sit in the car for a chat, knowing the cameras weren't operational. She takes her phone only, in case one of the children wakes up and tries to call her while she is outside.
 
  • #146
According to NJ

She arrived home at 8.15pm.

He phoned her at 9.24pm.

Google maps says Farnham, Surrey to New Ash Green, Kent is 63 miles, 72 minutes drive.



"She has private clients. She'd just finished private clients on the Tuesday when she text me to say that she got home at 8.15pm."

Missing beautician Sarah Wellgreen 'saw mystery clients on day she vanished'

“On the Tuesday night I spoke to Sarah on the phone at 9.24pm. The conversation went on for about 15 minutes,” he said.

Missing mother-of-five may have been murdered, police say
 
  • #147
Top all of that off with... there don't seem to be any corroborating statements made from SW's friends and/or relatives about how madly in love she was with her bf, or that she was even currently dating him.. there seems to be the exact opposite. Which is why I posted earlier about all of that.
He was the one to initiate the panic that she was missing.. calling all around, etc... but yet not being the one to actually report her missing.
Without him having done that, how long would it have taken for someone to report her missing, I wonder?
I am getting little nigglings about him too... like... how did he have access to ALL of SW's clients in order to call them ALL? (Does he have her phone, or at least, DID he have her phone?) How on earth else would he have access to these names, even if she had unprofessionally shared with him her clients' names AND numbers (which is a no-no in such a service industry!)?
Obviously the woman was NOT going to be moving back in with him an hour away, because she had just reportedly obtained a mortgage to buy out her ex, so that her kids would have access to both parents, if her ex moved nearby. So how *that* particular marriage would have worked is a curiosity, as the BF has said nothing about him potentially giving up his own place to move in with HER.
And for her to have left him secretively, while he was at work, and he gets informed by the school... and then contacts her.. that's got to mean something, if she's simply upset about the goings on with her ex and her kids and is fearful about her custody arrangements - why wouldn't she have spoken to her dearly beloved about these feelings, instead of secretly packing up and taking the kids and bolting out of there while he's at work, without a word?
 
  • #148
The thing that doesn't fit, is the cameras being off. But... we have no info on how long they'd been off for.
Also, wondering if LE would have been so hot on the tail of SW's ex, if not for thoughts and ideas planted in their minds by the bf.
Although LE did not arrest the ex until a few days later, so they must have had a reason to do so.
I don't like to think these things, it's just the little niggling.. would love to hear from some of SW's friends that yes indeed, SW was madly in love with Neil and couldn't wait to tie the knot, etc.
Also, do police have any info on this apparent 20 year old mystery man?
 
  • #149
Top all of that off with... there don't seem to be any corroborating statements made from SW's friends and/or relatives about how madly in love she was with her bf, or that she was even currently dating him.. there seems to be the exact opposite. Which is why I posted earlier about all of that.
He was the one to initiate the panic that she was missing.. calling all around, etc... but yet not being the one to actually report her missing.
Without him having done that, how long would it have taken for someone to report her missing, I wonder?
I am getting little nigglings about him too... like... how did he have access to ALL of SW's clients in order to call them ALL? (Does he have her phone, or at least, DID he have her phone?) How on earth else would he have access to these names, even if she had unprofessionally shared with him her clients' names AND numbers (which is a no-no in such a service industry!)?
Obviously the woman was NOT going to be moving back in with him an hour away, because she had just reportedly obtained a mortgage to buy out her ex, so that her kids would have access to both parents, if her ex moved nearby. So how *that* particular marriage would have worked is a curiosity, as the BF has said nothing about him potentially giving up his own place to move in with HER.
And for her to have left him secretively, while he was at work, and he gets informed by the school... and then contacts her.. that's got to mean something, if she's simply upset about the goings on with her ex and her kids and is fearful about her custody arrangements - why wouldn't she have spoken to her dearly beloved about these feelings, instead of secretly packing up and taking the kids and bolting out of there while he's at work, without a word?

But why didn't her EX report her missing? She was living at the same house as him and took the kids to school of a morning. One of the last sightings was of Sarah on the Tuesday morning taking the kids to school, so what was his explanation of why she didn't take them on the Wednesday? Did any of the parents ask where Sarah was and what did he tell them? Her car was parked at home so didn't he wonder where she was? Surely he would of contacted somebody to ask where she was, if only for the kids sake?

The last sighting of Sarah was on the Tuesday evening in the Bazes Shaw area of New Ash Green but we don't know who seen her or what time it was. Was she on her own or with someone? In her car or on foot?

So many questions!
 
  • #150
But why didn't her EX report her missing? She was living at the same house as him and took the kids to school of a morning. One of the last sightings was of Sarah on the Tuesday morning taking the kids to school, so what was his explanation of why she didn't take them on the Wednesday? Did any of the parents ask where Sarah was and what did he tell them? Her car was parked at home so didn't he wonder where she was? Surely he would of contacted somebody to ask where she was, if only for the kids sake?

The last sighting of Sarah was on the Tuesday evening in the Bazes Shaw area of New Ash Green but we don't know who seen her or what time it was. Was she on her own or with someone? In her car or on foot?

So many questions!
The day she was reported missing was her son's birthday - Thursday. Perhaps until then (the day before) her ex might have assumed she was not so much suspiciously missing but missing with a reason - a reason she hadn't told him because they weren't communicating well for instance. It would be helpful if we knew the usual set up and if he did school runs while she was working. The Tuesday morning might not have been the norm for her to do the school run. Yes, so many questions!
 
  • #151
But why didn't her EX report her missing? She was living at the same house as him and took the kids to school of a morning. One of the last sightings was of Sarah on the Tuesday morning taking the kids to school, so what was his explanation of why she didn't take them on the Wednesday? Did any of the parents ask where Sarah was and what did he tell them? Her car was parked at home so didn't he wonder where she was? Surely he would of contacted somebody to ask where she was, if only for the kids sake?

The last sighting of Sarah was on the Tuesday evening in the Bazes Shaw area of New Ash Green but we don't know who seen her or what time it was. Was she on her own or with someone? In her car or on foot?

So many questions!
I remember reading in one article that SW and her ex used to alternate days in taking the kids to school, so it may not have been expected to see SW at the school or with the kids that next morning. And with them being 'single' but living in same house, they may not necessarily share all of their dating stuff with one another. And it seems that at one point SW moved out of the 'marital home' and in with her BF, N. Plus, didn't she also work weekends in that other place where her 2 older boys lived, so it doesn't sound like it was exactly a weird occurrence for her not to be home. It does seem weird however, that they wouldn't communicate about the kids. Can't just not bother coming home one night and just assume the other ex is going to be available to look after the kids without confirming it. What if they both did the same thing on the same night? But... to make an actual police report and have them delving into their lives, would probably have to be at the point where the ex was truly concerned.. or at the point where if he didn't report it, it would look bad on him..
 
  • #152
I haven't really understood these living arrangements. Did her younger children live in Portsmouth with her as I read she was working full time when there? Then did they all move in with bf in Farnham? I did read bf N say she just left suddenly with the children. But then there was an article in MSM about ex's mother moving out of New Ash Green house shortly after SW returned to live there? At that time I'd assumed ex's mother was living with ex to help care for the children as they were there with their dad? Clearly I have missed something somewhere.
 
  • #153
I haven't really understood these living arrangements. Did her younger children live in Portsmouth with her as I read she was working full time when there? Then did they all move in with bf in Farnham? I did read bf N say she just left suddenly with the children. But then there was an article in MSM about ex's mother moving out of New Ash Green house shortly after SW returned to live there? At that time I'd assumed ex's mother was living with ex to help care for the children as they were there with their dad? Clearly I have missed something somewhere.

It was her ex's WIFE who moved out according to the Daily Mail 25 October 2018:

She got back together with Mr James in early July, but remained in Kent with Mr Lacomba as the children were enrolled at the village primary school.

Mr Lacomba said his wife Marilyn used to live with him and Miss Wellgreen to help them bring up their three children. She left after disagreements with Miss Wellgreen.

Sarah has a flat in Portsmouth (where she worked) but i don't know if her kids lived with her there? She did move in with her BF in Farnham with her 3 kids and his 2 kids but it was only a flat and was too small for them all. She left him in May to move back to New Ash Green with her ex and his wife (for the sake of the kids) but then got back together with her BF in July apparently. She didn't rekindle her relationship with her ex, although his wife did walk out on him at some point. It has been said that she wanted to buy her ex out of the home so she could have the property for herself and the kids but i don't think this has ever been substantiated?
 
  • #154
I haven't really understood these living arrangements. Did her younger children live in Portsmouth with her as I read she was working full time when there? Then did they all move in with bf in Farnham? I did read bf N say she just left suddenly with the children. But then there was an article in MSM about ex's mother moving out of New Ash Green house shortly after SW returned to live there? At that time I'd assumed ex's mother was living with ex to help care for the children as they were there with their dad? Clearly I have missed something somewhere.
There was also that Judge Rinder show that her ex appeared on, trying to claim he was owed rent money by a lady who lived in the house and helped care for his three children. He lost the claim because she hadn't been compensated for her work looking after the children, but I also read that it was a sham because she was really his girlfriend and he had been trying to get the money to pay his legal costs in the child custody case.
 
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I remember reading in one article that SW and her ex used to alternate days in taking the kids to school, so it may not have been expected to see SW at the school or with the kids that next morning. And with them being 'single' but living in same house, they may not necessarily share all of their dating stuff with one another. And it seems that at one point SW moved out of the 'marital home' and in with her BF, N. Plus, didn't she also work weekends in that other place where her 2 older boys lived, so it doesn't sound like it was exactly a weird occurrence for her not to be home. It does seem weird however, that they wouldn't communicate about the kids. Can't just not bother coming home one night and just assume the other ex is going to be available to look after the kids without confirming it. What if they both did the same thing on the same night? But... to make an actual police report and have them delving into their lives, would probably have to be at the point where the ex was truly concerned.. or at the point where if he didn't report it, it would look bad on him..


I agree that - as SW took the children to school on the Tuesday - it may have been BLs turn on the Wednesday, so nothing would seem odd to other parents at the school gates ( if indeed they noticed anything at all ).
But even if SW and BL were not communicating very well, wouldnt BL have thought it odd that even though she was not at home, her car was still there ? But then again, perhaps he did think it was a bit strange, but not strange enough for him to raise the alarm right away ( perhaps thought a friend had picked her up to go somewhere ).
 
  • #157
There was also that Judge Rinder show that her ex appeared on, trying to claim he was owed rent money by a lady who lived in the house and helped care for his three children. He lost the claim because she hadn't been compensated for her work looking after the children, but I also read that it was a sham because she was really his girlfriend and he had been trying to get the money to pay his legal costs in the child custody case.

From the Daily Mail 28 October 2018:

The ex-boyfriend of a missing mother faked a row on Judge Rinder to try to fund a custody battle against her.

It has emerged that the mother of five's ex-boyfriend Ben Lacomba went on the ITV show in 2015 and pretended his then-girlfriend Leanne Edwards was just a lodger who owed him £4,550 in rent.

He persuaded Ms Edwards to hide their relationship from television bosses, hoping their staged dispute would prompt a payout from the programme which would help him fight for custody of the three children he has with Ms Wellgreen.

But his plan failed when Judge Rinder sided with Ms Edwards, from Dartford in Kent.

She told the Sun: 'The show didn’t know we were a couple. He concocted all that up and I just went with it.

'He went out of his way to make money and it didn’t work. He was gutted because he needed that money to pay for a barrister in court.'

Then there's this from The Telegraph dated 25 October 2018:

Friends said the relationship between Mr Lacomba and Ms Wellgreen had grown increasingly “fractious” since she moved back into the family home.

She recently won a series of custody battles against her ex-partner, as well as a bitter court dispute over their mortgage. Days before her disappearance, she had been offered a higher-paid job.

“She called Ben ‘The T**t’,” said close friend Leanne Edwards, 30, who went for a coffee with the Ms Wellgreen three days before she vanished.

“Sarah didn’t want anything to do with him. She just wanted to move on.”

Things were going against him and it looks like he was getting desperate.










 

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  • #158
@ WiseOwl - I thought it was Mr Lacomba senior's wife Marilyn who was living there and looking after the children (their grannie)?
So, she got back with bf N in July (broke up in May I think) but apparently the children were enrolled in the village primary school in Kent in July which is why she stayed there and I think spent weekends with bf N? So I wonder how long they had been at schooling in Kent? July - Sept is school holiday time surely so had they changed schools in May from Farnham to New Ash Green when she left bf N and moved back in with ex, or were they always with their father in Kent and schooling there?
 
  • #159
What I'm not getting is why she returned with the children to live with her ex. We are led to believe they were in schools in Surrey and she pulled them out without warning 'because of custody issues'. It all gets very much murkier when the story turns into a tale of temporarily falling out of love, dating new boyfriends and then rekindling the love affair, but staying in Kent.
 
  • #160
Just pulling together a few quotes -

But six months ago, she moved back in with cab driver Ben, with friends saying the couple wanted to bring up the children together.

Martin Prus, 46, her manager at Puresun Hair and Beauty Centre in Portsmouth, told The Sun this week:
They were sharing the children, that’s what I know.

According to one neighbour, Sarah moved back in with Ben after she split up with a boyfriend.
She said: “For him to have her back is kind.

Does the complicated love life of mum-of-five hold key to her disappearance?


Sarah enrolled her children in the local school,' says Neil [snip].
But there were stresses, too. Neil says Sarah's children were close to their father and missed their old friends back in Kent.

The strain and disruption of the to-ing and fro-ing between Kent, Farnham and Portsmouth eventually took its toll.

After almost 18 months together, Sarah suddenly left Neil in May 2018, apparently without warning.

'One morning I had a call at work from the children's school asking where they were. I phoned Sarah and she told me she'd gone. She said she couldn't cope with the situation any more,' says Neil.

'I was heartbroken, but Sarah felt she had to put the children first. She was very stressed over the situation with her ex, and worried that she could lose her kids, and they meant everything to her.'

Sarah Wellgreen's partner still baffled how mother-of-five vanished | Daily Mail Online
 
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