UK UK - Sarah Wellgreen, 46, Kent, 9 Oct 2018

[deugirtni]

What do y'all think happened to his shoes????? Full of mud, irreparably?? Surely not blood, since none was found anywhere???

 

[Ironside]

What do y'all think happened to his shoes????? Full of mud, irreparably?? Surely not blood, since none was found anywhere???

I'd say they got covered in mud when he was burying her. His car was a total mess so likely his shoes would have been too. He would have looked like a Glastonbury casualty,

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I'd say they got covered in mud when he was burying her. His car was a total mess so likely his shoes would have been too. He would have looked like a Glastonbury casualty,

I agree mud. Interesting, wonder what he did with the others? He probably drove home in them

 

[Alyce]

I agree mud. Interesting, wonder what he did with the others? He probably drove home in them

Refuse collection Bazes Shaw was Wednesday.

 

[Mrs Marple]

What was the weather like in the days leading up to this, anyone know?

 

[Alyce]

October 6, 2018

Overcast
Max:14°c
Min:10°c
Rain: 5.52 mm
Sunrise: 07:07 AM
Sunset: 06:25 PM
Moonrise: 03:12 AM
Moonset: 05:43 PM



October 7, 2018

Sunny
Max:14°c
Min:8°c
Rain: 0.00 mm
Sunrise: 07:09 AM
Sunset: 06:23 PM
Moonrise: 04:32 AM
Moonset: 06:09 PM



October 8, 2018

Max:16°c
Min:9°c
Rain: 0.00 mm
Sunrise: 07:11 AM
Sunset: 06:21 PM
Moonrise: 05:52 AM
Moonset: 06:34 PM



October 9, 2018

Max:19°c
Min:11°c
Rain: 0.00 mm
Sunrise: 07:12 AM
Sunset: 06:19 PM
Moonrise: 07:11 AM
Moonset: 06:58 PM

New Ash Green Historical Weather

 

[Mrs Marple]

October 6, 2018

Overcast
Max:14°c
Min:10°c
Rain: 5.52 mm
Sunrise: 07:07 AM
Sunset: 06:25 PM
Moonrise: 03:12 AM
Moonset: 05:43 PM



October 7, 2018

Sunny
Max:14°c
Min:8°c
Rain: 0.00 mm
Sunrise: 07:09 AM
Sunset: 06:23 PM
Moonrise: 04:32 AM
Moonset: 06:09 PM



October 8, 2018

Max:16°c
Min:9°c
Rain: 0.00 mm
Sunrise: 07:11 AM
Sunset: 06:21 PM
Moonrise: 05:52 AM
Moonset: 06:34 PM



October 9, 2018

Max:19°c
Min:11°c
Rain: 0.00 mm
Sunrise: 07:12 AM
Sunset: 06:19 PM
Moonrise: 07:11 AM
Moonset: 06:58 PM

New Ash Green Historical Weather

Nice work!!

5mm of rain is a fair amount.

 

[chimpface]

Christ on a bike what are those.....winkle pickers?

Or "Sh*t flickers" as we used to call them at school!

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Nice work!!

5mm of rain is a fair amount.

Maybe the gray footwear were flippers?

 

[Mrs Marple]

Maybe the gray footwear were flippers?

Such a vile individual. I hope she didn't suffer too much.

 

[mrazda71]

Phhheewwww-well! I've spent the entire day catching up here!

I'm REALLY up and down with my thoughts on this ... on one hand, there's no body and the police didn't get to see his google search for 'how to murder my estranged wife and get away with it' and 'what trousers go with grey winkle pickers' as he evaded giving them the phones! So ... one might think that some planning had gone into this - no loud arguments, no signs of a struggle, no blood found at the home (I think we would've heard by now if there was) ... just a wet bed and a missing Sarah.

I'd be interested to know, if ... like me, she kept a drink next to her bed at night, that might've got spilled in a struggle?

I can't see how, any bodily fluids - blood/urine/vomit etc could've been on the bed and cleaned off by Nerf Boy Benny adequately enough to remove forensic evidence ... even washing machines leave behind traces.

Thinking about it as I write actually ... I think, I'm erring on the side of pre-planned. I was trying to think of the things that point to spur of the moment and... I'm struggling.

@Alyce I think it was you? Who commented way back about Neil's 'are you alive' text? I had to laugh because it's something I message to my middle daughter A LOT! I just searched our fb messenger chat and between 2013 and now I've asked 'are you alive?' Or exclaimed 'oh you are alive then!' 84 times! and that's not including regular texts or other apps

 

[GimmeAclueBlue]

The media coverage of the case has ummed and ahhd and yet, to date, the most condemning comment or quote on the potential evil here , using Biblical vocabulary and smite, was about the 'Diabolical Shoes...'

I have perused this comment over and over and can't help but think im being smited for my "Christ on a bike" comment. I realise this is a very serious case and may have brought down the tone unintentionally!
I always leave serious comment so apologies if i have offended.

 

[GimmeAclueBlue]

Phhheewwww-well! I've spent the entire day catching up here!

I'm REALLY up and down with my thoughts on this ... on one hand, there's no body and the police didn't get to see his google search for 'how to murder my estranged wife and get away with it' and 'what trousers go with grey winkle pickers' as he evaded giving them the phones! So ... one might think that some planning had gone into this - no loud arguments, no signs of a struggle, no blood found at the home (I think we would've heard by now if there was) ... just a wet bed and a missing Sarah.

I'd be interested to know, if ... like me, she kept a drink next to her bed at night, that might've got spilled in a struggle?

I can't see how, any bodily fluids - blood/urine/vomit etc could've been on the bed and cleaned off by Nerf Boy Benny adequately enough to remove forensic evidence ... even washing machines leave behind traces.

Thinking about it as I write actually ... I think, I'm erring on the side of pre-planned. I was trying to think of the things that point to spur of the moment and... I'm struggling.

@Alyce I think it was you? Who commented way back about Neil's 'are you alive' text? I had to laugh because it's something I message to my middle daughter A LOT! I just searched our fb messenger chat and between 2013 and now I've asked 'are you alive?' Or exclaimed 'oh you are alive then!' 84 times! and that's not including regular texts or other apps

I agree with all this ....i think he thought of plenty of excuses and reasoning but added them all when he got scared (didnt he even speak of oil riggers at one point) Truth between lies aswell just like the alesha mcphail case which i saw alot of sleuthers on here follow)

Im worried reasonable doubt will come in over the whole tinder fling thing which is clear. Im not judging at all but many ppl will as the witness testimony is given.

 

[Legally Bland]

I have perused this comment over and over and can't help but think im being smited for my "Christ on a bike" comment. I realise this is a very serious case and may have brought down the tone unintentionally!
I always leave serious comment so apologies if i have offended.

I don't want to speak for SVS, but I don't think that is what s/he meant (there's a smiley), it was directed at the media coverage.

I thought your comment was amusing, please carry on posting however you like.

I honestly don't think you've offended anybody.

 

[mrazda71]

I agree with all this ....i think he thought of plenty of excuses and reasoning but added them all when he got scared (didnt he even speak of oil riggers at one point) Truth between lies aswell just like the alesha mcphail case which i saw alot of sleuthers on here follow)

Im worried reasonable doubt will come in over the whole tinder fling thing which is clear. Im not judging at all but many ppl will as the witness testimony is given.

I'm not worried ...

The Tinder guys were enjoying Sarah's company, not killing her. That was clear ... and I think that was probably in part the reason she's dead, Ben was jealous. Jealous that other men were 'getting' what he couldn't any more and jealous that Sarah was happy happy without him and about to be even happier in a new job and one that meant she could finally be rid of him for good. He was losing what little bit of control over her that he had ...

 

[Mrs Marple]

I have perused this comment over and over and can't help but think im being smited for my "Christ on a bike" comment. I realise this is a very serious case and may have brought down the tone unintentionally!
I always leave serious comment so apologies if i have offended.

I also found the comment amusing but certainly not disrespectful. Sometimes a little light hearted humour is needed in threads like this. l certainly didn't take it to mean you were detracting from the seriousness of the case.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

I have perused this comment over and over and can't help but think im being smited for my "Christ on a bike" comment. I realise this is a very serious case and may have brought down the tone unintentionally!
I always leave serious comment so apologies if i have offended.

Not at all Blue!!!

Im with the other poster's comments on the Bike. Was talking about the tabloid press and their hypocritical morality, which is almost Biblical in its tone at times.

I also appreciated @Legally Bland being aware of the zeitgeist of Non-determinist Gender wishes.

( He)

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Is Alyce at her reporter's desk today? Sorry if you are Alyce. Dont want to tread on your toes...

Live updates as Sarah Wellgreen's ex-partner goes on trial accused of her murder

11:47

Day 10: Trial set to resume at noon

Ben Lacomba’s murder trial is set to resume at 12pm today (Monday, October 14).

The jury has so far heard extensive details about what happened in the days and weeks leading up to Sarah Wellgreen’s disappearance and what happened since then.

There has been CCTV footage shown to the court, eyewitness accounts and the findings of police investigations among the evidence put forward by the prosecution.

It’s expected that Lacomba’s defence will begin this afternoon.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

12:13KEY EVENT
Ben Lacomba set to give evidence today

Ben Lacomba is on trial accused of killing Sarah Wellgreen
Today’s proceedings will see the prosecution conclude their case.

Meanwhile, Ben Lacomba is set to be giving evidence this afternoon.

Stay with us for updates live from the courtroom throughout the day.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

12:25

Ben Lacomba called to witness box


Murder accused Ben Lacomba has been called to the witness box as the defence case begins.

Rebecca Trowler QC, defending will question Lacomba.

Lacomba first confirms his name and age and immediately denies the allegations against him. He says:

Ben Sebastian Lacomba, 39 years old.



“I am in no way responsible for Sarah’s disappearance and I definitely have not killed her.



“The day that I reported her missing is October 11, 2018.”