UK - Terror attacks at London Bridge, Borough Market; 11 confirmed dead, incl. 3 suspects; many injuries. 3 June 2017

  • #401
How would his family have his fingerprints? I assume they mean police have asked permission to use his fingerprints to identify him. Lots of workplaces have fingerprint entry systems these days so if he worked for HSBC it's likely they'd have his fingerprints on file.


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How would his family have his fingerprints? I assume they mean police have asked permission to use his fingerprints to identify him. Lots of workplaces have fingerprint entry systems these days so if he worked for HSBC it's likely they'd have his fingerprints on file.


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Perhaps they have asked the family for permission to obtain his fingerprints from his flat so they can formally id him. That doesn't sound encouraging for his family, who may be in Spain.

His sister is looking for him so perhaps she is in London too.
 
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"A 21-year-old Australian last seen on London Bridge remains missing after being caught in Saturday night's terror attack.

Family and friends have launched an appeal to find Brisbane woman Sara Zelenak who was separated from her friends and has not been seen since.

Family friend Diane Winter posted to Facebook on Monday saying Ms Zelenak witnessed the attacks that killed seven and injured 48 others.

Ms Winter said more than 24 hours have passed with no news from the Australian consulate about Ms Zelenak's welfare.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ondon-Bridge-terror-attack.html#ixzz4j79t6N6y

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  • #405
London Bridge terrorist 'ringleader' was former Underground and KFC worker who tried to brainwash kids in local park

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/london-bridge-terror-attack-terrorists--10561879

"I know he was quite a devout Muslim, I heard him talking about the Koran," said Mr Chigbo.

"He would preach to young Muslims at the flat.

"Sometimes up to six people quite regularly.”

I don't understand how a devout Muslim could do this? Why is it some Muslims say this behaviour is not Islam but these others are committed to killing unarmed innocent people in the name of Islam?
Can anyone explain that?
 
  • #406
Please could someone post the link in that mirror article that shows the guy running away with the pint in his hand ?
Its number 5 at the bottom of the article. (Elley Mae this one ^^^^ you just linked )
 
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"The ringleader of the London Bridge terror attack appeared in a Channel 4 documentary about jihadis in the UK last year.

The 27-year-old from Barking, East London, is believed to have led the trio who ploughed into pedestrians before stabbing revellers in pubs and bars on Saturday night.

He is currently only being identified by his nickname "Abz" at the request of the Metropolitan Police.

In 2016, he appeared in the documentary alongside a notorious preacher as they prayed to an Islamic State flag in a London park."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/london-bridge-terror-attack-terrorists--10562140

Unbelievable.


Here's the video. It is titled "The Jihadist next door".

The film followed a group of Britain's most dangerous extremists for two years, giving unprecedented access into the bubbling undercurrent of home-grown terrorism. Documentary maker Jamie Roberts even spent time with Siddhartha Dhar (aka Abu Rumaysah), the former bouncy castle salesman who is now suspected to be the second “Jihadi John”.


https://youtu.be/6DsG9yQrdD4
 
  • #410
I don't understand how a devout Muslim could do this? Why is it some Muslims say this behaviour is not Islam but these others are committed to killing unarmed innocent people in the name of Islam?
Can anyone explain that?

I don't believe he is a real Muslim he was likely a follower of Wahhabism an extreme form of Islam. I understand it is funded in the U.K by certain gulf nations it was discussed in depth on Good Morning Britain this morning.

"In July 2013, Wahhabism was identified by the European Parliament in Strasbourg as the main source of global terrorism.

Wahhabism has become increasingly influential, partly because of Saudi money and partly because of Saudi Arabia's central influence as protector of Mecca.

The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, condemned Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil), insisting “the ideas of extremism, radicalism and terrorism do not belong to Islam in any way”.

Somewhat paradoxically, however, members of the Saudi ruling class have applauded Wahhabism it for its Salafi piety - i.e. its adherence to the original practices of Islam - and the movement's vehement opposition to the Shia branch of Islam."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-reactionary-branch-of-islam-said-to-be-the/
 
  • #411
Counter-terrorism officers secretly recorded an alleged Isil-inspired terror cell in Barking last month discussing how to use YouTube to plot a van and knife attack in London, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

The Daily Telegraph has discovered that one alleged suspect said the intended method was to “use a car as a weapon” and boasted that he had radicalised more than a dozen “students” in Barking “wanting to martyr themselves”.

He said the plot would involve driving at pedestrians and then getting out of the vehicle to attack others. He added: “YouTube videos all make it properly easy to do.”

One of the plotters talked about “getting an automatic [vehicle] so the boys can drive it”.

The men under surveillance are also said to have talked about attacking a bridge – in their case Westminster Bridge – and going to the gym to make their arms more powerful and therefore more lethal when using knives. Neighbours said the London Bridge attack suspect was a keen gym user.

Material connected to the alleged plotters who were being tracked last month included pages from the Islamist magazine Ramiyah, which suggest that easy “prey” include “a drunken kafir [non-believer]”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/04/police-uncover-youtube-link-london-terror-attack/
 
  • #412
Counter-terrorism officers secretly recorded an alleged Isil-inspired terror cell in Barking last month discussing how to use YouTube to plot a van and knife attack in London, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

The Daily Telegraph has discovered that one alleged suspect said the intended method was to “use a car as a weapon” and boasted that he had radicalised more than a dozen “students” in Barking “wanting to martyr themselves”.

He said the plot would involve driving at pedestrians and then getting out of the vehicle to attack others. He added: “YouTube videos all make it properly easy to do.”

One of the plotters talked about “getting an automatic [vehicle] so the boys can drive it”.

The men under surveillance are also said to have talked about attacking a bridge – in their case Westminster Bridge – and going to the gym to make their arms more powerful and therefore more lethal when using knives. Neighbours said the London Bridge attack suspect was a keen gym user.

Material connected to the alleged plotters who were being tracked last month included pages from the Islamist magazine Ramiyah, which suggest that easy “prey” include “a drunken kafir [non-believer]”.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/04/police-uncover-youtube-link-london-terror-attack/

Cowards in other words targeting unarmed civilians, most of them tourists.
 
  • #413
Cowards in other words targeting unarmed civilians, most of them tourists.

And the authorities were onto them, yet they were not arrested.
 
  • #414
And the authorities were onto them, yet they were not arrested.
Yes that's what a tolerant country we are. Tolerant of all religions. Also you have to break the law to be arrested. It isn't clear to me that they did that until they used the hired B&Q vehicle as a weapon.
 
  • #415
Yes that's what a tolerant country we are. Tolerant of all religions. Also you have to break the law to be arrested. It isn't clear to me that they did that until they used the hired B&Q vehicle as a weapon.

Many terrorists like this in various countries have been arrested for plotting to carryout terrorists attacks. Hundreds have been stopped before they acted in the UK and in the US as well.

Plotting and planning to carryout terrorists attacks are very serious crimes themselves. They do not need to carry it out for it to be a crime.
 
  • #416
All I want to know is what was the motive for this particular attack?

I can't comment about the plotting and planning as I haven't seen details, which we may not see until the police have completed their current investigations, if we see it at all until trial of any supporters of this attack. It's ongoing I presume.
 
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Many terrorists like this in various countries have been arrested for plotting to carryout terrorists attacks. Hundreds have been stopped before they acted in the UK and in the US as well.

Plotting and planning to carryout terrorists attacks are very serious crimes themselves. They do not need to carry it out for it to be a crime.

In addition to the 3 attacks in the UK this year, 5 have been thwarted since January

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ted-past-two-months-mi5-battles-unparalleled/

Also, just breaking, one suspect held an Irish ID card

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ck-latest-gunshots-heard-police-launch-fresh/
 
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