UK - Three abandoned babies (2017, 2019, 2024) full siblings found in London

[dotr]

''A full DNA profile of the mother has been established by investigators, but despite this, hundreds of hours of CCTV footage and a £20,000 reward being offered earlier this year, she remains unidentified.''​

15 May 2025

Police fear mother might abandon fourth baby but close in on her location

A full DNA profile of the mother has been established by investigators, but despite this, hundreds of hours of CCTV footage and a £20,000 reward being offered earlier this year, she remains unidentified.

news.sky.com

''Addressing the possibility of another child, Detective Inspector Jamie Humm added: "We can't be blind to the fact that there may be a fourth [baby], and certainly the passage of time and the cycles of nine months it would take to potentially get pregnant and birth a child, mean that we cannot discount that.''

Baby Harry was found in an east London park in September 2017. Pic: Met Police/PA

Baby Roman. Pic: Met Police/PA

The Boots bag Baby Elsa was found abandoned in. Pic: Met Police/PA

 

[callmehenry]

What I find interesting and helpful is that we know that all 3 children have the same mother and father so it's not a case of fly by fathers.
It appears there's some form of stability with the parents relationship which should make it easier.
Hopefully with the reward being offered someone who does suspect who the mother is or knows who she is can come forward and be anonymous.
imo

I respectfully disagree with your comment about stability. If there was stability surely they wouldn’t have abandoned the babies. This could be a woman held against her will or a young woman where this has been her whole life so far

 

[Izzylizzy]

I respectfully disagree with your comment about stability. If there was stability surely they wouldn’t have abandoned the babies. This could be a woman held against her will or a young woman where this has been her whole life so far

The 3 children all have the same father so there's no change there.
It's a 7 year span.

Stability isn't necessarily a positive trait.
imo

"It appears there's some form of stability with the parents relationship which should make it easier."

 

[seasideForest]

Stability isn't necessarily a positive trait.
imo

Agree. In fact your next sentence (a quote, I know) tells us what the 'stability' is referring to - that the parents are still involved with each other in some way, IMO.

"It appears there's some form of stability with the parents relationship which should make it easier."

@callmehenry Whether an abusive relationship? Who knows at this stage? The 'stability' isn't about that. MOO

 

[callmehenry]

Agree. In fact your next sentence (a quote, I know) tells us what the 'stability' is referring to - that the parents are still involved with each other in some way, IMO.

@callmehenry Whether an abusive relationship? Who knows at this stage? The 'stability' isn't about that. MOO

Abuse or no abuse, it’s at the very least a messed up relationship if they’re dumping babies all over London

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Imagine this is a woman's life, in London. And what the man involved must be like.

 

[seasideForest]

Abuse or no abuse, it’s at the very least a messed up relationship if they’re dumping babies all over London

Yes, I agree. But my post was about my opinion that 'some form of stability' is not referring to the quality (or lack thereof) of the relationship but rather that parents of these 3 abandoned babies are in some form of continuous relationship. MOO, of course.

 

[dotr]

Crazy thought, but any chance the mother is making money in this unorthodox way? speculation, imo.

Cash-strapped mothers selling their breast milk online for up to £800

EXCLUSIVE: Social media platforms are providing an unregulated booming market for those profiting off a high demand for breast milk, selling to other mothers and even adult men.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Lusitana]

Crazy thought, but any chance the mother is making money in this unorthodox way? speculation, imo.

Cash-strapped mothers selling their breast milk online for up to £800

EXCLUSIVE: Social media platforms are providing an unregulated booming market for those profiting off a high demand for breast milk, selling to other mothers and even adult men.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yikes.

 

[Lucy6226]

Crazy thought, but any chance the mother is making money in this unorthodox way? speculation, imo.

Cash-strapped mothers selling their breast milk online for up to £800

EXCLUSIVE: Social media platforms are providing an unregulated booming market for those profiting off a high demand for breast milk, selling to other mothers and even adult men.

www.dailymail.co.uk

You'd only need one pregnancy to express breast milk....well you can induce milk supply in other ways but that wouldn't be applicable in this scenario. Once you start producing milk, so as long as regularly expressing you can keep producing milk for years. Generally full time breastfeeding stops ovulation too ...although not 100% as a lot of breastfeeding mums have found out!! So unlikely to become pregnant again too.

Sadly I think this is some sort of exploitation.

MOO

 

[callmehenry]

Yes, I agree. But my post was about my opinion that 'some form of stability' is not referring to the quality (or lack thereof) of the relationship but rather that parents of these 3 abandoned babies are in some form of continuous relationship. MOO, of course.

It’s such an emotive topic that perhaps I reacted too quickly to your previous post without taking time to really process what you said. They do indeed appear to be in some kind of continuous relationship, I just pray it’s not one where the woman literally cannot escape this man

 

[Seni]

How do we know it was the same father in each case? Can't find a source for this.

ETA: His DNA would also have been identified if this were the case?

 

[Sarahlou]

How do we know it was the same father in each case? Can't find a source for this.

DNA tests revealed that Harry and Roman were full siblings, however, that information wasn't initially made public. It was only when Elsa was found five years later, and the case came before the family court, that we were able to report all three babies had the same parents.

Baby Elsa: Police going door-to-door in hunt for parents of abandoned siblings

The search for parents of three newborn babies, all abandoned after birth, is focused on nearby houses.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Seni]

Many thanks Sarahlou!!

 

[Skiwolram]

I wonder how many people will be willing to give their DNA? Certainly not the parents of these babies.
I do hope they find them.

Love

 

[FromGermany1]

Imagine this is a woman's life, in London. And what the man involved must be like.

Kindstötung: Totes Baby nach 25 Jahren identifiziert - WELT

Der Fund von zwei toten Babys auf einem Dachboden in Niedersachsen löste im Sommer 2012 Entsetzen aus. Nun ist auch die Identität einer 1988 nicht weit entfernt gefundenen Babyleiche geklärt.

www.welt.de

Google translation:
Nine months after the conviction of a 44-year-old mother for the death of two of her babies in the Rotenburg district, the police have solved a third case.

An infant found dead in a trash can at a rest stop in 1988 was identified as the woman's child through DNA analysis, police and prosecutors announced on Wednesday. The woman from Ostertimke denies being responsible for the child's death. The cause of the baby's death has not been determined.

The 44-year-old was sentenced to four years in prison by the Stade Regional Court in January . In one case, the judges found the defendant guilty of manslaughter and in the other, attempted manslaughter. The court found the defendant to have diminished responsibility. At the time of the crimes, she was addicted to alcohol and suffered from a personality disorder. Her ex-husband found the two badly decomposed babies' bodies while cleaning out the attic in the summer of 2012. Two children from the marriage live with their father.
-.-.-
During the trial, the woman admitted to having placed the newborns in the attic. She had repressed, denied, and concealed her pregnancies in 1996 and 2001. She gave birth to the babies unaided in the house's toilet.
-.-.-
Maybe, the mother of "our" 3 babies is also married and has some living children just like the German woman. A completely normal household with a husband who, strangely enough, doesn't notice anything.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

The court found the defendant to have diminished responsibility

For Pete's sake.

Maybe, the mother of "our" 3 babies is also married and has some living children just like the German woman. A completely normal household with a husband who, strangely enough, doesn't notice anything.

"Normal" household ...

 

[Skigh]

For Pete's sake.



"Normal" household ...

I think the poster meant the family appeared normal to everyone who knew them.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I think the poster meant the family appeared normal to everyone who knew them.

I know. My comment was meant with a smile. (Although I think someone living this way would probably "keep to themselves" in a clearly extreme way, if anyone was paying attention. But JMO.)

 

[FromGermany1]

For Pete's sake.



"Normal" household ...

You are right!! "Normal" only from the outside of course.