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The reward was announced on the anniversary of the third child - Elsa - being found. Officers in East London have reviewed almost 500 hours of CCTV in this latest case - looking for somebody who is carrying a distinctive blue, reusable shopping bag, which contained the newborn baby girl before she was left at the junction of Greenway and High Street in East Ham on January 18 last year.

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Oh my, I have that same exact Boots bag! I use it all the time. I got it at least five years ago, I haven't seen them sold in quite a while.
 
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Who gave the babies names: the mother (with a notice) or Child Welfare/Police?
I believe police/social services/others. Nurses named Elsa that because it was so cold the night she was found, so it's after the character in Frozen. Roman I believe was named after the street she was found? Not sure. I definitely remember reading about the nurses naming Elsa though, it's in the BBC article above.
 
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Who gave the babies names: the mother (with a notice) or Child Welfare/Police?
The authorities/police - elsa was so named as she was freezing cold when found- from Disneys Frozen. Not sure if the rationale behind Harry and Roman
 
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Detective inspector Jamie Humm of the Metropolitan Police's child abuse investigation team said: “We have carried out extensive inquiries over the past year to try and locate Elsa’s parents. This has involved reviewing over 450 hours of CCTV and completing a full DNA structure of the mother

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Investigators added that they have 'serious concerns' for the wellbeing of both, but 'especially the mother'.
 
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Detective inspector Jamie Humm of the Metropolitan Police's child abuse investigation team said: “We have carried out extensive inquiries over the past year to try and locate Elsa’s parents. This has involved reviewing over 450 hours of CCTV and completing a full DNA structure of the mother

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Investigators added that they have 'serious concerns' for the wellbeing of both, but 'especially the mother'.
£20,000 or £200,000 ?
 
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The authorities/police - elsa was so named as she was freezing cold when found- from Disneys Frozen. Not sure if the rationale behind Harry and Roman
Roman because of the road or the park the baby was found at, not sure of Harry though
 
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Omg the baby in the striped onesie is such a cutie. I hope they can find the mother and confirm her well-being.
 
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Apologies if it’s already been mentioned but what if the mother is someone being held against their will and they aren’t on a missing persons database simply because they had no one to miss them as such
 
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Reusable bags are everywhere--bins, charity shops, flea markets and so on. I don't think the Boots people can pinpoint its age or point of purchase.

Also, it may not be the biological mother who is leaving the babies. It could be a more distant relative or even a non-relative.

IMO some sort of enslavement, unusually tight-knit community or even cult could be involved. How would locals not notice and report a repeatedly pregnant mother (or father) who never appears to have an infant or toddler in tow again?

It's a blessing the children survived and weren't murdered.
 
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Baby Roman, 2019
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A newborn baby found earlier this year in Newham, east London, is the third child abandoned by the same parents, the BBC can report.
DNA tests presented to the East London Family Court established that “Baby Elsa” is the sibling of two babies, a boy and a girl, found in very similar circumstances in 2017 and 2019.
Despite appeals by the Metropolitan Police, their parents have not been identified.
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also been abandoned after birth in the same area of London.
They had been wrapped in blankets. One was also inside a bag.
Family Court documents stated Baby Elsa still had her umbilical cord, and doctors estimate she had been born only an hour before.



I wonder if they are using geographic profiling. IMO she lives in the area of 2 and 3. I thought maybe she was young but imo she’s no longer what I would consider young after seven years.


I mean it could be possible that the mother is being forced to give up her kids?
 
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Apologies if it’s already been mentioned but what if the mother is someone being held against their will and they aren’t on a missing persons database simply because they had no one to miss them as such
My thoughts exactly. Almost like the Ariel Castro case.
 
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Interesting that no related babies were abandoned during the pandemic.
 
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