UK- Two suitcases believed to contain human remains found, man seen acting suspiciously @ Clifton Suspension Bridge, Bristol, 11 July 2024

[Skigh]

I’m surprised the couple got so involved with a stranger, I guess he wormed his way in after initial contact on line.

I imagine they met on some niche website . He might have had prior motives and was interested in men with money who he could scam.

 

[CaptainNancy]

I think it is painfully obvious what was going one .I very much hope the judge will not be looking for any reason to reduce his sentence.

I don't think a judge who has sat through a video so terrible that even the police decided shouldn't be seen by all the police team will be looking to set him free as soon as possible.

More likely that given the bizarre actions of Mosquera, travelling to Bristol with his utterly mad disposal plan, etc, he doesn't want to leave the sentencing open to appeal.

 

[CaptainNancy]

I’m surprised the couple got so involved with a stranger, I guess he wormed his way in after initial contact on line.

They had been sharing online sex stuff for 10 years before they met in Colombia. I daresay Alfonso's taking him out on speedboats etc was a thrill for Mosquera - loads of photos of them socialising. And then Alfonso flies him to London - what an excitement - Yostin had never left his country before. And presumably Alfonso was delighted with his fit young toyboy who was co-operating in extreme sex. I don't think Mosquera did much 'worming in'. When he left to stay with Alfonso - who had a track record of blackmail - he was , as far as anyone knew, as vulnerable as his victim.

 

[Inthedetails]

Glad to hear the guilty verdict was reached. Good.

jmo

 

[Yellowbelly]

I think it is painfully obvious what was going one .I very much hope the judge will not be looking for any reason to reduce his sentence.

I don't think a judge who has sat through a video so terrible that even the police decided shouldn't be seen by all the police team will be looking to set him free as soon as possible.

More likely that given the bizarre actions of Mosquera, travelling to Bristol with his utterly mad disposal plan, etc, he doesn't want to leave the sentencing open to appeal.

Looking at the sentencing guidelines for murder, I reckon he might pass the bar for a whole life order.

"(2)Cases that would normally fall within sub-paragraph (1)(a) include—

(a)the murder of two or more persons, where each murder involves any of the following—

(i)a substantial degree of premeditation or planning,

(ii)the abduction of the victim, or

(iii)sexual or sadistic conduct,"

Sentencing Act 2020

An Act to consolidate certain enactments relating to sentencing.

www.legislation.gov.uk

 

[Lucy6226]

I think the judge is crossing his t's and dotting his it's with the psychiatric report to ensure there's no grounds for appeal on that point. A whole life order is to be expected as detailed by Yellowbelly above. Which the terms stated would rule out any treatable psychiatric illness imo. It's very likely this guy is just a psychopath that will always be a danger to the public. MOO

 

[CaptainNancy]

The judge might also want him checked for some kind of learning difficulty. A murderer who leaves a clear and graphic film of the murder in his laptop, plus an incriminating trail of Google searches and attempted hacked bank accounts, a particularly incompetent body disposal plan etc.

Maybe he was just a guy living in relative poverty with little education making a living from p o r n , got dazzled by what looked like wealthy foreigners, possibly de-sensitised by extreme sexual content, resentful to Alfonso over the alleged blackmail and deeper feelings about the work he was engaged in, and saw what he thought was an opportunity to get rich quick.

The sentencing remarks will be interesting.

 

[bobbymkii]

I don't really understand why any murderer would decapitate their victim(s) as a way to try and evade justice. If anything, the act just creates a mountain of incriminating evidence for LE to find and catch the perpetrator out. The only reason I can conclude that someone would do something like that is because they are an utterly depraved individual.

As the detective at about 4:30 in this news segment states, if he'd just left the bodies where they were and got on a plane back to Colombia he would have "probably" have never been caught.

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[Skigh]

Murderer's butchery of couple sparked fears he had killed before

As Douglas Cunningham was cycling home on July 10 last year he spotted a tourist hauling suitcases across Clifton Suspension Bridge who appeared a little lost.

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In a twisted tale of greed, brutality and sexual deviancy, just 48 hours earlier the Colombian actor had savagely battered and stabbed the British couple to death before decapitating and chopping up their bodies to steal their £400,000 London home and life savings.

By day, Mosquera claimed that he worked in IT in an office in Medellin where he lived with his wife and child.

But he spent his nights doing 'modelling', earning extra cash as a 'performer' on a website where he performed various sexual acts under the name 'I am black master' and 'Mr d*** 20cm'.

Albert Alfonso first came across the tall muscular Colombian more than 10 years ago on a specialist website where he sold videos of himself performing sex acts involving defecation, urination and vomiting in return for payments between £20-£80.

 

[Tortoise]

Murderer's butchery of couple sparked fears he had killed before

As Douglas Cunningham was cycling home on July 10 last year he spotted a tourist hauling suitcases across Clifton Suspension Bridge who appeared a little lost.

www.dailymail.co.uk

In a twisted tale of greed, brutality and sexual deviancy, just 48 hours earlier the Colombian actor had savagely battered and stabbed the British couple to death before decapitating and chopping up their bodies to steal their £400,000 London home and life savings.

I'd love to know how he thought he was going to get his hands on the property.

 

[Skigh]

I don't really understand why any murderer would decapitate their victim(s) as a way to try and evade justice. If anything, the act just creates a mountain of incriminating evidence for LE to find and catch the perpetrator out. The only reason I can conclude that someone would do something like that is because they are an utterly depraved individual.

As the detective at about 4:30 in this news segment states, if he'd just left the bodies where they were and got on a plane back to Colombia he would have "probably" have never been caught.

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JMO

I do not think he wanted to just escape back to Colombia,he wanted to get his hands on their money.

 

[CaptainNancy]

I had assumed that the decapitation was a Tetris problem. Wrt the suitcases.

And an attempt to make the bodies in the Avon (if found, which they obviously would have been given that the Avon is a narrow, shallow, muddy creek at low tide) less identifiable.

But yes, such brutal butchery is not normal.

The ‘sex acts’ also required a very strong stomach, or the ability to dissociate from the reaction to every kind of bodily mess.

 

[CaptainNancy]

Extreme sex and bodies in suitcases - who were the men involved? - BBC News


“Albert's bank statements show he received more than £17,500 between 2 September 2022 and 12 July 2024 from a company that operates an extreme p o r n o graphy website.”

Alfonso was making money out of his videos with Mosquera.

The whole thing was so depraved.

But obviously not any justification for murder. And the murder of Longfellow demonstrates that he basically wanted them both gone so that he could empty their bank accounts. Whether he was so dim and unrealistic that he thought he would be able to sell their flat: who knows.

WS censoring the BBC! Surely the P word crops up a lot in legitimate crime discussion?

 

[Tortoise]

Extreme sex and bodies in suitcases - who were the men involved? - BBC News


“Albert's bank statements show he received more than £17,500 between 2 September 2022 and 12 July 2024 from a company that operates an extreme p o r n o graphy website.”

Alfonso was making money out of his videos with Mosquera.

The whole thing was so depraved.

But obviously not any justification for murder. And the murder of Longfellow demonstrates that he basically wanted them both gone so that he could empty their bank accounts. Whether he was so dim and unrealistic that he thought he would be able to sell their flat: who knows.

WS censoring the BBC! Surely the P word crops up a lot in legitimate crime discussion?

It's also a matter of practicality, that with two men in the flat he would need to kill Longworth to get away with murdering Alfonso.

 

[Tortoise]

I bet the man who drove him to Bristol feels lucky to be alive. IMO

 

[Parker Knoll]

I'd love to know how he thought he was going to get his hands on the property.

If you are a podcast listener @Tortoise have a listen to Shadow World ( BBC radio 4 ) “ Grave Robbers ) really interesting podcast on how properties are being literally “ stolen “ by gangs.
The previous podcast she did on fraudulent wills was also an eye opener.

 

[Tortoise]

If you are a podcast listener @Tortoise have a listen to Shadow World ( BBC radio 4 ) “ Grave Robbers ) really interesting podcast on how properties are being literally “ stolen “ by gangs.
The previous podcast she did on fraudulent wills was also an eye opener.

Will do! Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[Tortoise]

If you are a podcast listener @Tortoise have a listen to Shadow World ( BBC radio 4 ) “ Grave Robbers ) really interesting podcast on how properties are being literally “ stolen “ by gangs.
The previous podcast she did on fraudulent wills was also an eye opener.

I can hardly wait for the next episode!

What a cliffhanger, when she shouts 'don't hit me!' at the guy.

 

[Smkd]

Aw, Albert was also from the Basque Country like I am, I didn’t know. I’m from the Spanish side but I’ve been to where he’s from a few times. The town he studied at ( Biarritz ) was historically a seaside holiday destination for royalty, and still is a charming and popular holiday town - it’s no wonder he got jobs managing luxury estates in the UK.

In my own personal opinion, I find him to be a very conflicting individual. He obviously did things that are reprehensible. We have heard testimony about him possibly spiking, then certainly raping and blackmailing a 17 year old here. Thinking about the situation with Yostin, he is one of five children and has two kids himself, and lived in a developing country. He was promised English lessons and financial support. He obviously knew what the deal was, but it begs the question, why didn't Albert pick someone in a more privileged position? There is clearly a power imbalance being exploited. I don’t think that Albert didn’t care, we know that he “arranged a guest membership for Mosquera at his gym, set him up to join his work's five-a-side football team Whatsapp group, and enrolled him on a four-week English language course”. He took him sightseeing too. He clearly cared and was trying to make him as comfortable as possible during his time in the UK.

I just think that, if the videos he sent to Albert accounted for a substantial part of Yostin’s income back in Colombia, he might’ve felt like he could not say no to the trip. Albert might have downplayed this aspect of their relationship, therefore misjudging how risky the situation could become.

Sorry if I’m just rambling on, I am absolutely not trying to victim blame, just attempting to unpack an unusual situation with complex characters.

 

[Parker Knoll]

I can hardly wait for the next episode!

What a cliffhanger, when she shouts 'don't hit me!' at the guy.

I know ! The willpower detectives is also a crazy story … that solicitor has GOT to face charges at some point.
JMO