Unorganized Searching

[chesterp]

Is there a way we can confirm the nightclub story?

It is public knowledge........Tabu Night Club....nothing sinister with the club. Never Lose Hope donated $12,000 to TES for searches. What is the main goal....FIND CAYLEE...............

 

[drumstick]

Tim Miller is a good man. No one has the right to slander him.

There are reasons for everything he does and everything he says.

I would never be so stupid to second guess him on anything. His life experience doing what he does ... dealing with frightened, desperate families looking for their loved ones is no easy calling, yet he does it and shares their pain with compassion from having walked in their shoes.

Unorganized searches have many drawbacks including safety which is my first thought.

 

[cyberborg]

I also feel that Tim's reluctance to
perform full force is greatly affected by
the lack of cooperation and blessing from the Anthony's.

IF Caylee's body is found, then that means that George and Cindy will
lose two members of their family. I doubt they welcome that thought.

Even more so KC. I think that TM felt that the scale and focus of this search would cause KC to want to fess up and help discover Caylee. TM did make a comment at one point about damn KC.

This is a first both in that the Anthony family don't support the search AND that the perpetrator who knows where Caylee is -- is her mother and a member of that same family not some stranger.

Double whammy. The grandparents are not fully supportive, the mother is keeping silent and -- TM has all of these other families who need him and are the complete opposite. How can TES focus when the scales tip away from the Anthony's?

 

[Baznme]

Is there a way we can confirm the nightclub story?

It's no big deal. MN owns the nightclub. He offered it for the meeting at no charge and it has the right sound system to be heard. Open and shut. End of story.

 

[Meagain]

I also feel that Tim's reluctance to
perform full force is greatly affected by
the lack of cooperation and blessing from the Anthony's.

Tim was more than well aware of the Anthony problems for a long time. Especially for this go-around.

 

[EmMomma]

I went w/the mindset of "a hurry up and wait" attitude knowing the amount of volunteers expected, plus I'm a people watcher, so really didn't bother me.Teamed up w/strangers soon to be friends, nice mix from all over the state. Everyone in my team prepared w/proper attire plus enough to share. We used pov, donated gas and toll money to my driver. Glad OCSO waived all traffic/parking tickets, cars parked illegally all over medians at busy intersections.

Have to say at our last site in a subdivision I'm sure more than one 911 call must have been made, a large gang of people, dirty, muddy, carrying big sticks, some machetes, some wearing camo marching down the middle of the street till we found our grid.

Sure it could have run more smoothly but as someone said, at least we know where Caylee isn't. To those of you able to continue to search, I wish you the best of luck and say TY

Bold by me...
I think you may have been in one of the groups we traveled with to the last area we searched...there was a dog, barking incessantly (bless his heart) and we were WAITING for LE to show up...we looked like heathens. :crazy:

And...YES...we know where Caylee likely is not. That's the attitude I took home with me...otherwise, I think I'd be curled up in a ball somewhere, weeping because of the enormity of this task and the hopelessness of it all...

 

[Baznme]

It is public knowledge........Tabu Night Club....nothing sinister with the club. Never Lose Hope donated $12,000 to TES for searches. What is the main goal....FIND CAYLEE...............

Actually, for the record, it was $12,500 dollars and it was for TES.

 

[concentric]

Agreed. I felt like we were handed a grid but would have appreciated a copy like we have on here with the little pings and/or reason for why we were going there. I understand that would be asking a lot but...
they said they will ave small teams staying in Orlando to continue searching and I plan on joining them and searching again!

"a reason for why we were going there." Exactly. It's like you shouldn't be privy to "inside information." You guys were showing up to do a job as professionally as possible, and IMO, were treated like extras on a movie set. That should not have happened.

 

[EmMomma]

Is there a way we can confirm the nightclub story?

What part of the "story"?
Anyone who was there this weekend knows everything from that post was accurate and true.

 

[EmMomma]

"a reason for why we were going there." Exactly. You guys were showing up to do a job as professionally as possible, and IMO, were treated like extras on a movie set. That should not have happened.

I didn't feel like an "extra on a movie set", nor did I expect to be told the reasoning behind why we were searching where we did.
People asked these questions all weekend, my response was, "I will go where Tim and LE send me". I didn't feel it was my place to question those things...so not everyone felt that way.

 

[FloridaKatz]

Volunteers were asked to bring they're own food & water.
They ran out half way through a 2 hour assignment? So You had food & water & left the search because 1 Hour later you needed more? Weird, most people can have breakfast and be good for hours till lunch. (???) I searched, & yeah there was thick brush, but come on, it wasn't like mountain climbing. This is how others get the wrong impression, by people that exaggerate.....

You obviously were not in the same area we were. Or else you are super human and need no constent water nourishment. See my later post. and btw, I have no reason to "exaggerate".

 

[jennyb]

Even more so KC. I think that TM felt that the scale and focus of this search would cause KC to want to fess up and help discover Caylee. TM did make a comment at one point about damn KC.

This is a first both in that the Anthony family don't support the search AND that the perpetrator who knows where Caylee is -- is her mother and a member of that same family not some stranger.

Double whammy. The grandparents are not fully supportive, the mother is keeping silent and -- TM has all of these other families who need him and are the complete opposite. How can TES focus when the scales tip away from the Anthony's?

Not to bash TM at all -- but I'm just perplexed. I don't understand, given all the facts you've set out, why he came back. It's just not logical.

 

[Baznme]

Respectfully snipped.

So why would TM align himself with Nejame all of the sudden? I'm so confused by all of this. I support TES 100%, but I'm so torn about what is coming out about this weekend, and the sudden halt with the search.

Nejame represents C & A. C & A and Tim came to an understanding. What's so difficult to understand about that?

 

[EmMomma]

Not to bash TM at all -- but I'm just perplexed. I don't understand, given all the facts you've set out, why he came back. It's just not logical.

I think Tim came back to do what he could do. I appreciate the fact that he came back, even if it wasn't as long as expected, and even if the desired outcome didn't happen.

 

[Baznme]

Not to bash TM at all -- but I'm just perplexed. I don't understand, given all the facts you've set out, why he came back. It's just not logical.

To search for Caylee. Some don't seem to understand that they were out searching long before Saturday with their equipment and the experts that know how to use it. TM kept his part of the bargain. Where were the other 3,500 searchers that said they were coming?

 

[concentric]

I truly feel for anyone who devoted their many energies to this search, and didn't get treated with dignity and respect. I hold you in the highest regard. You gave everything you had.

 

[FloridaKatz]

Volunteers were asked to bring they're own food & water.
They ran out half way through a 2 hour assignment? So You had food & water & left the search because 1 Hour later you needed more? Weird, most people can have breakfast and be good for hours till lunch. (???) I searched, & yeah there was thick brush, but come on, it wasn't like mountain climbing. This is how others get the wrong impression, by people that exaggerate.....

And btw, our team had to take a POV, and we searched from 7 until 2pm without a break, so yea, we ran out of water.

 

[jennyb]

I think Tim came back to do what he could do. I appreciate the fact that he came back, even if it wasn't as long as expected, and even if the desired outcome didn't happen.

Here's what confuses me. It was a huge, highly planned operation set to end on Tuesday with a lot of ground to cover. It was SET to end on Tuesday for a reason I have to imagine. I'm sure everything was mapped out according to that end date of what they would cover. Why stop before Tuesday?

I did not think they would find her btw, and I don't think he had any obligation to stay past the date he stated. I didn't put too much stock in the notion that he would stay until she was found because that's not realistic. But why not complete the task?

Anyway, whatever.

 

[karenmamo]

Precisely.
Also, WHAT DOES IT HURT?!
I love Tim, I love TES, and I love what they stand for (so much so, that I'm now a proud member of TES)....BUT four (or twenty) eyes are better than two.
There is no doubt that emotions are running high...and it's very easy to point fingers at people who don't deserve it. I'm sure Tim has never encountered a family like the A's or a situation like this, and I'm sure he doesn't know exactly HOW to react.
HOWEVER, there should be NO BLAME placed on anyone other than the person responsible here...we all know who that is. Any anger should be directed at HER!
I'm sad that Tim and LP seem to be at odds here, and I hope sometime in the future, they will put all of this behind them...after all, we all share a common goal, and that is for Caylee to be put to rest and for justice to be served!

Alliances are strange animals.
On NG last week (we remember that mess) NeJame came out swinging at Leonard.
Ugly, ugly, ugly.
Leonard took it well and did not roll in the mud with NeJame as I would have.
Now we have what appears to be an alliance between NeJame and Tim.
How did NeJame get to Tim?
What trade off did Tim make with NeJame?
Hit me now if you feel the need, but something about this mess is not yet known to us.:furious:

 

[FloridaKatz]

Is there a way we can confirm the nightclub story?

I can confirm it, I was there. So was BazNme and a few other WS'rs who were team leaders. Like I said in a different thread, it was pretty much a hug fest between TM and MN.