UPDATE- Bin Laden is Dead-President spoke

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:usa: I can't imagine how proud those 2 groups of Navy seals are :usa:
 
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Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead...

It is very sad to me to watch the celebration going on right now.

I hoped we were a people who could have risen above this.

Yes he was responsible for great death and pain.

How does celebrating his death elevate those people he killed?

Killing, killing and more killing.

All of this makes us more like him rather than less.

I watch this and while I understand the emotion (governments should not run on emotion, BTW)

I am saddened that at the end of the day all of our cheering over the death of an individual reduces us.

Right now is a chance to think globally instead of "locally" and we are turning it down.

It is a chance to show class and we are totally missing it once again.

The world is turning us off and tuning in to other channels.

So sad for America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIFY9h8DImg
There's so much that I agree with in your post...but to see those kids in DC going out to celebrate America warmed my heart. I don't think people are tuning us out. Remember, many are/were right there with us fighting terrorism. Let us rejoice in the promise of a new day...one that is freer today than it was yesterday. IMO, the world is a better place, why not be warmed by that thought for just a little while. IMO, this is a good thing...there is one less crazed murderer to fear.
 
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He will be buried by 4 PM tomorrow.

Per FOX.
 
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WS changes it's forum lead page to read:

"JUSTICE HAS BEEN DONE", PRESIDENT OBAMA SAYS!

OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD!!! READ HERE

cool.

and...I'm such a good :sleuth:
 
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I disagree completely.

Show some class? I've got some friends in low places, Two Thousand Nine Hundred and Sixty Six of them to be exact who were buried DEEP in early graves by the acts of this particular coward.

That those souls can finally Rest In Peace for eternity is ample reason for celebration in respect of their memory

Think globally instead of locally? 9/11/2001 was as local as it gets for all Americans. Damn how it appears to the rest of the world, they weren't local then or now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCavKL2zdjM

Concerned Papa you have my heart.

On a deep and heartfelt level I agree,

I am a military brat who hails from 3 branches of the military through my parents plus my own marriage.

With all due respect I say to you that if what we want is peace with the world we HAVE to begin it. We (or someone) has to be the one to initiate peace


Retaliation while it feels really good leads us to nowhere.
 
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This is a nice win but I'm guessing Al Quaeda has had a lot more important people working for them in the last few years. Al Quaeda still lives on.

I don't know about that I haven't really heard anyone say they are the official new leader of Al Qaeda. I did see a documentary and they are running every time they hear a black hawk coming, they are so small and fast now they can't hit them. They are also calling the droid the invisible killer. They don't like having an enemy they can't see or kill.
 
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Yes pride. I am proud to be an American. I am proud that our military took him out (or arranged that meeting as momtective so eloquently put it).

I don't quite know about which American Holy Book you are referring to as we are a religious choice country and I, personally have never heard of an American Holy Book.

Would it be classy to just say "Oh good, we got him and go back to our texting or playing farmville or watching our television programs" when our next door neighbor is now a single mom with children struggling to survive and with no explanation as to why daddy had to die in those towers?

Would our restraint of just staying inside and remaining calm and quiet in the wake of this glorious news show the world we are strong?

I don't think so. We are strong because we believe in our foundations, our country and we defend those against our attackers. When we take out one of our attackers, it shows our dignity in defending our beliefs.

I just heard that the Navy Seals gave Bin Laden the chance to surrender and he didn't take it. So, there ya go. Almost like a street criminal caught by the local PD - order him to put down his weapon - if he raises it - well then...........

Sounds like now it can be said - this was a self-defense killing - he was given an option.

Those Navy Seals showed more class, restraint and dignity than I've ever seen. I will applaud them and thank them for defending my children and myself and most of all, MY COUNTRY.

That is absolutely beautiful Wise Old Owl!
 
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I was teaching 3rd grade on that fateful day. I will never forget it. Months later, I think it was after the new year - I gave my class an assignment. They were to write about one thing, if they could go back and change what it would be and why.

I'll never forget this. Most wrote about having grandma back or a beloved pet. But this one boy. He wrote that if he could he would turn the clock back to Sept 10 so that 9/11 woulnd't have happened.

I remember crying when I read it. I took it to my principal. She cried. She forwarded it and eventually the local paper did a write up about it and the student.

I find myself sitting here tonight wondering where he is and what he is thinking about tonight - after hearing this news. He is now grown and I bet he still remembers writing that essay and his feelings at that time in his life.
 
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There's so much that I agree with in your post...but to see those kids in DC going out to celebrate America warmed my heart. I don't think people are tuning us out. Remember, many are/were right there with us fighting terrorism. Let us rejoice in the promise of a new day...one that is freer today than it was yesterday. IMO, the world is a better place, why not be warmed by that thought for just a little while. IMO, this is a good thing...there is one less crazed murderer to fear.

Thank you for your thoughtful and eloquent post.

I am as glad as anyone that this evil man is dead. I just think that right now world leadership lies in the court of public opinion ( and no, we are not doing well - read papers and forums from other countries)

We had a real chance here.

Its not about showing patriotism, its about showing class and restraint.
 
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I was a struggling single mom in the months after 9/11 raising a 3 year old on my own. A few weeks after 9/11 my son was terrified. We'd gone through nights before with monsters under the bed or ghosts in closets but on this particular night he was CONVINCED that he had seen a TALIBAN hiding by the garage. No amount of anything could convince him that the Taliban were oceans away. As he pointed out, the towers were not oceans away and they got those. I couldn't even go "scare" away the Taliban because he was crying "No, don't leave me alone!" Finally, out of desperation after over an hour of this, I called my brother who lived a mile away and at sixteen had just gotten his license. I explained he had to come over and scare the Taliban out of my backyard. Thankfully he came over and did a good enough job to calm my son down and let him sleep. I know his cousin who was the same age built Lego towers and then used toy planes to knock them down, then said "that's what the bad men did." This took such a terrible toll on this generation of children. They don't remember the post 9-11 world. This was a day for justice, but I'm not sure it's a day for peace. I hope there will not be succesful retaliations by AQAP and others. Celebrating the accomplishments of our troops, but also praying for peace.

Bless his heart and his cousins too. I agree this had more impact on our younger generation that we sometimes realize.

My middle daughter just got up from the TV to get ready for bed. She is 15 and was 5 when this war started. She was glued to the TV. I asked her what she was thinking after she listened to the President and she said that she doesn't remember her father never being at war. We spent 9 yrs in combat cycle (gone a year home a year...gone a year home a year and he is currently gone again now we are back in it after a year off it was nice!).

She called to me when she saw the groups celebrating at ground zero and said hey mom come see. I went and she said Mom I kind of feel relieved. She said I know it sounds silly but when I was little to me the bogeyman was bin laden.

So I understand how your son felt that night. My kids did too. Life was so scary and uncertain because many of the adults around them were fearful and crying. Hopefully the last thing my daughter said before she went upstairs will come true---this is history Mom the whole world has changed again and it looks like it just might be a brighter day tomorrow. KWIM?

I said I sure do.

ETA: we have been in the cycle 9 years. LOL it's been so flippin long I lost count hahahaha. I had said 8 yrs. whoohooweeee!
 
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I think maybe

during the Scott Peterson trial
...and during the webcam arrest of Casey A. in the middle of the night.
 
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...and during the webcam arrest of Casey A. in the middle of the night.
On that note- think Casey's pissed tonight that she's been upstaged and won't be the main focus of tomorrow's news???
 
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Thank you for your thoughtful and eloquent post.

I am as glad as anyone that this evil man is dead. I just think that right now world leadership lies in the court of public opinion ( and no, we are not doing well - read papers and forums from other countries)

We had a real chance here.

Its not about showing patriotism, its about showing class and restraint.


Any country that is not cheering with us now is no friend of ours.
 
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