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from Manchester Guardian's live updates page (link below)

7:59 p.m. Here's something you don't hear too often, if ever: Rush Limbaugh praising Obama.

"Thank God for President Obama," the right wing US broadcaster told listeners today.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we need to open the program today by congratulating President Obama," Limbaugh announced at the start of his radio show, in which he credited Obama with the strategy that led to the killing bin Laden.

"President Obama has done something extremely effective, and when he does, this needs to be pointed out."

"President Obama, perhaps the only qualified member in the room to deal with this, insisted on the Special Forces. No one else thought of that…. Not a single intelligence adviser, not a single national security adviser, not a single military adviser came up with the idea of using Seal Team 6 or any Special Forces."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-death-live
 
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Here is a video from ABC from inside the compound after the raid.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/osama-bin-laden-dead-inside-pakistan-kill-site-13507839


I have a question. How is it that this bedroom showing the blood and being inside the compound but yet doesn't show any signs of the huge, enormous fire that the Seals started when they left? I saw that fire last night and it was quite large and seemed to have taken up a big portion of that compound. Yet no black smoke marks at all in this bedroom?
 
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Wise Old Owl said:
Here is a video from ABC from inside the compound after the raid.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/osama-bin-laden-dead-inside-pakistan-kill-site-13507839


I have a question. How is it that this bedroom showing the blood and being inside the compound but yet doesn't show any signs of the huge, enormous fire that the Seals started when they left? I saw that fire last night and it was quite large and seemed to have taken up a big portion of that compound. Yet no black smoke marks at all in this bedroom?
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I'm not positive but I believe that was the helicopter they blew up in the compound.
 
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mysteriew said:
I'm not positive but I believe that was the helicopter they blew up in the compound.
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Well yea. The helicopter landed and then couldn't take off so they blew it up. That fire was huge and raging. Wouldn't there have at least been large plumes of black smoke waft through that house? I've seen many fires afterwards and even though a particular room wasn't touched by the flames the evidence of fire - black smoke; soot on top of everything is there.

I guess it could have been that these rooms that they walked through were in the front away from the burning helicopter but the smoke?

I'm just wondering that's all.
 
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One thing that concerns me is that there has not been an announcement of any injuries or casualties on our side. Usually after a major action there would be some mention of that. Are our guys ok?
 
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mysteriew said:
One thing that concerns me is that there has not been an announcement of any injuries or casualties on our side. Usually after a major action there would be some mention of that.
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Obama said last night that no Americans were injured during the operation.
 
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Cypros said:
My feelings are much like yours, believe. I am glad that Bin Laden has finally received his due, and I am especially glad to finally have some form of justice result from 10 years of war and killing (and too many innocent victims), but I cannor bring myself to sing and dance. When watching the revelers on TV last night I remembered how disgusted Americans were when Palestinians danced in their streets after the events of Sept 11th, 2001. The killing of Bin Laden is the most recent of a cyclical pattern of violence that goes back decades before Sept 11th and in which none of the participating parties is innocent.
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I agree. I understand the feelings of those who are jubilant, but I hope I never reach the point where I celebrate the killing of anyone.

I am glad Bin Laden is no longer at large. Let's leave it at that.
 
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Wise Old Owl said:
Here is a video from ABC from inside the compound after the raid.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/osama-bin-laden-dead-inside-pakistan-kill-site-13507839


I have a question. How is it that this bedroom showing the blood and being inside the compound but yet doesn't show any signs of the huge, enormous fire that the Seals started when they left? I saw that fire last night and it was quite large and seemed to have taken up a big portion of that compound. Yet no black smoke marks at all in this bedroom?
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I thought the fire was in the exploding helicopter they left behind. That would be in a courtyard, not necessarily inside the building.

But what confuses me is that the animation they keep showing displays a fire fight outside in a triangular courtyard. So why are we seeing a blood-soaked bedroom?
 
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Wise Old Owl said:
Here is a video from ABC from inside the compound after the raid.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/osama-bin-laden-dead-inside-pakistan-kill-site-13507839


I have a question. How is it that this bedroom showing the blood and being inside the compound but yet doesn't show any signs of the huge, enormous fire that the Seals started when they left? I saw that fire last night and it was quite large and seemed to have taken up a big portion of that compound. Yet no black smoke marks at all in this bedroom?
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Hello WOO, it's been reported there were no windows in the front of the building. The burning helicopter was outside in the yard of the compound. I'm not positive that's the reason but I don't think smoke from the burning helicopter entered the compound.
 
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What does the ad at the top of the page mean about moral danger?
 
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Cnn awaiting a martyr tape, so that supporters will be inspired by this.
 
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I just saw a reenactment of the mission. They show the helicopters landing inside the walls of the compound, the navy seals fast roping down, and entering the house. I am presuming they all were in bed at the time as it shows the shooting occurred in the bedroom. What really puzzles me is knowing how loud the helicopters are how is it that Bin Laden and the others didn't have a little time to react?
 
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believe09 said:
Respectfully snipped-the body count may be different, but imo the sentiment is the same.
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No it's not. The people who died on 911 were innocent. Osama was not.

Most of us realize it would be very dangerous to try to take Osama alive. We were lucky to get him at all. We celebrate that a mass murderer, like Hitler, was captured and his reign of terror ended.

They celebrated (and IMO, it was a very small part of the population who did this around the world) the demise of thousands of innocent citizens as a victorious maneuver done to send a message.

The killing of Osama was not done in revenge. It was done to preserve life. The lives of his future victims. On the other hand, the holocaust his minions committed against us was the targeted killing if innocents. And how can such a killing ever be a legitimate and moral tactic?

Thus, I think there is a huge difference. I equate this to the relief and exuberance of finding that Hitler was dead. I think a better comparison to those who exulted in 911 would be celebrations over the deaths of thousands of innocents after the nuclear bombings of Japan during WWII. But that is not what's occurring here.

Nevertheless, I appreciate the sentiment that we should try to be humble and sober in our relief that a monster has been brought to justice.

But I can't help feeling pride in our intelligence and military for completing such a risky mission so successfully and happiness that the victims of osama's terrorism around the world can feel peace that the source of their terror can't hurt anyone anymore.
 
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Cypros said:
I just found the Bin Laden compound on Google Earth using the satellite image currently posted on CNN.com's main page.

It is located at 34o 10' 09.64'' N / 73o 14' 13.17" E
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(PBS) Apparently construction started in 2005... here is an ariel view
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Read more: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...:+pbs/newshour-headlines+(newshour-headlines)

They also have an illustration of the compound. I wonder when OBL moved in.
 
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Wise Old Owl said:
Well yea. The helicopter landed and then couldn't take off so they blew it up. That fire was huge and raging. Wouldn't there have at least been large plumes of black smoke waft through that house? I've seen many fires afterwards and even though a particular room wasn't touched by the flames the evidence of fire - black smoke; soot on top of everything is there.

I guess it could have been that these rooms that they walked through were in the front away from the burning helicopter but the smoke?

I'm just wondering that's all.
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This was a huge compound. There were several buildings. You can see on some footage that the fire engulfed only portions.

Nova said:
I thought the fire was in the exploding helicopter they left behind. That would be in a courtyard, not necessarily inside the building.

But what confuses me is that the animation they keep showing displays a fire fight outside in a triangular courtyard. So why are we seeing a blood-soaked bedroom?
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I'm sure the Seals had to engage in a firefight before they even got to where osama was holed up using his family as human shields. They stormed the compound and fought their way to osama's hidey hole.
 
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