UPDATE- Bin Laden is Dead-President spoke

[Thyme]

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...02_1_bin-laden-facebook-page-facebook-friends
Several of my Facebook friends posted a variation of the following quotation, allegedly from Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., the great champion of civil rights.

Their posts said:

‎"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy." - Martin Luther King Jr.

Dozens of people immediately "liked" this quotation on Facebook.

There's just one problem: The quote is a fake.


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http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...ote-goes-viral-on-the-internet_100533266.html

Fake Martin Luther King Jr. quote goes viral on the Internet

Sorry about the miss-quote Kimberley...funny that is..as I got this from a political forum I belong to in the US. You would have thought they would have the correct quote. Still...I rather like the miss-quote.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I'm still sitting here pondering my last post question.

I did read somewhere that there were many children in the compound. IIRC something like 22 of them. Could it have been possible that our Seals were taking fire from some adolsecent males? Could some of those kids have been teenagers bearing weapons? We haven't heard ANYTHING along those lines so I'm just supposing here.

I'm just trying to think out loud about a 20 minute long firefight (which is a long time) between 24 Navy Seals against 4 adult males.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

And OBL Was not armed when he was shot, as reported on Cnn.

There were so many early reports by officials who said he was armed and shot his firearm.
Now we find out he was not.

I find it strange. I know how much info was coming out quickly so I guess it's normal some details would get mixed up.

But regardless, I'm glad he's gone either way.

BO gave the order "kill not capture" so those Seals did exactly what was expected of them.
Glad they are in our corner.
Heroes!

 

[doogiesgirl]

That's the photshop copy of him dead. The gunshot wounds/blood was doctored onto a photo of him from years earlier. You can actually see that his mouth is the same in the dead photograph as it is in the alive photograph.


http://www.timesofmalta.com/article...-tv-broadcasts-image-of-bin-laden-face.363157

Are you serious? Well hells bells...who the heck would do that? I want to see the real picture! Is that wrong? (psst...I don't care if it is!)

:cow:

 

[shana]

It is important to note that the quote wasn't exactly "made-up" - it was misquoted, according to the article referenced below.

{snipped to conform to 25% quote rule, more or less <g>}

&#8220;I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.&#8221;Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.&#8221; MLK Jr.&#8221;

After stating her mind, she placed in bracket [sic] the quote from King. The quote from King was meant to support what she was saying. However when the status was copied and reposted by other users, they removed the quote and attributed the whole statement to King.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...ote-goes-viral-on-the-internet_100533266.html

ETA to clarify: It was not "made-up" at all. Please see article (I had to snip too much).

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I'm still sitting here pondering my last post question.

I did read somewhere that there were many children in the compound. IIRC something like 22 of them. Could it have been possible that our Seals were taking fire from some adolsecent males? Could some of those kids have been teenagers bearing weapons? We haven't heard ANYTHING along those lines so I'm just supposing here.

I'm just trying to think out loud about a 20 minute long firefight (which is a long time) between 24 Navy Seals against 4 adult males.

Could be. They are taught at a very young age to use guns and to hate Americans.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

It is important to note that the quote wasn't exactly "made-up" - it was misquoted, according to the article referenced below.


The original poster of the quote on Facebook did something that was not included in the subsequent reposts. 24-year-old Jessica Dovey who is an English teacher in Japan updated her status on Facebook shortly after the news that bin Laden has been killed.

This is what Dovey wrote, “I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.”Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.” MLK Jr.”

After stating her mind, she placed in bracket the quote from King. The quote from King was meant to support what she was saying. However when the status was copied and reposted by other users, they removed the quote and attributed the whole statement to King.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...ote-goes-viral-on-the-internet_100533266.html

Right! As I said the first part was made up. The rest was a MLK Jr. quote.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Fake quote.

This is MLK Jr.'s quote.
The rest was made up.

"Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

I'm not going to judge anyone for celebrating the death of this coward.

I did not go into the streets and cheer and shout. Almost...... :innocent:
I did, however, yell HOOAH!!!! in my living room along with other phrases, I high-fived my 13 and 14 year old sons, put my American flags out in my yard (after the rain stopped) wore my ARMY t-shirt on Monday, and sent my favorite soldier a text message telling him how much I love him and how proud I am of his willingness to serve our nation.

 

[Lanie]

MOO

I'm glad he's dead. I'm glad he was killed vs. taken alive. He was responsible for the slaughter of thousands of civilians, and IMO, when a person CHOOSES to devalue the lives of others, that person's own life becomes worthless.

I know that sounds hypocritical, and maybe it is exactly that. I don't care. Osama Bin Laden was an evil man who needed to be put down, he was, and I am grateful for it.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Could be. They are taught at a very young age to use guns and to hate Americans.

AND didn't we see sometime yesterday that 22 people were killed in the compound? Well, if 22 were killed and there were only 4 adult males - then who were the 18 others killed? Now we know there was one woman killed - ok - what about the 17 others?

We don't like to fess up to killing kids - even though the world knows how these radical children act. I've heard first hand accounts about kids in Iraq who would be sweet and innocent to our soliders and once close - getting the candy they would give out - they would whip out a gun from under their clothes!!!

I would like to see an accounting of all killed at the compound because the numbers are not lining up here.

 

[shana]

I too would like to see such an accounting. There are almost wildly varying reports by voice or by print. I would also like to know where each person was taken, hospital or jail, and a certain list of the dead and their identities.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I too would like to see such an accounting. There are almost wildly varying reports by voice or by print. I would also like to know where each person was taken, hospital or jail, and a certain list of the dead and their identities.

I did see a headline on Comcast's home page yesterday that said the wife and children were in Pakistanni custody. I didn't read the article so I don't know how many children or their ages.

 

[Melanie]

MOO

I'm glad he's dead. I'm glad he was killed vs. taken alive. He was responsible for the slaughter of thousands of civilians, and IMO, when a person CHOOSES to devalue the lives of others, that person's own life becomes worthless.

I know that sounds hypocritical, and maybe it is exactly that. I don't care. Osama Bin Laden was an evil man who needed to be put down, he was, and I am grateful for it.

Me too! we have the death penalty here in the USA for a good reason. We just took it out over in Pakistan. I'm not going to listen to the naysayers who say we should be ashamed of ourselves for celebrating. Heck, I had a nice glace of wine and said "cheers to you - you SOB. Have fun in hell".

Blessings to all victims of 9/11, and love and strength to all our heroes still fighting to this day.

MOO

Mel

 

[PassTheMotrin]

Mel, I did the same thing!

 

[epiphany]

While the killing of Osama bin Laden is being enthusiastically celebrated throughout America and parts of the world, to say that such merriment is out of order will surely be considered heresy. Nonetheless, I'm saying it -- because it needs to be said. What I am tempted to say is this: Get a grip, celebrators. Have you so little decency?

I do understand how those who have suffered from the events of 9/11 may feel relieved, even happy, to have "closure" after 10 years of waiting for "justice to be done" -- and I don't quarrel with such feelings. Closure is a natural yearning and can certainly help people move on from serious trauma. And feelings are feelings. If you feel joyful, you feel joyful.

But celebration is not in order, no matter what your feelings of elation. Here's why...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pamela-gerloff/the-psychology-of-revenge_b_856184.html

And here's the writer's next line:

" "Celebrating" the killing of any member of our species -- for example, by chanting "USA! USA!" and singing "The Star Spangled Banner" outside the White House or jubilantly demonstrating in the streets -- is a violation of human dignity."

As far as I'm concerned, simply another ivory tower ideologue wagging her finger at me, telling me how I should feel, how I should respond, blah, blah and blah, to the death of one of the most evil individuals of modern times.

Instead of viewing the spontaneous gatherings as a group of individuals, many-our next generation of leaders, who did not know each other, who hold different ideologies, most-who demonstrated restraint and civility, most-who feel a mixture of many emotions to the killing of the evil, murderous, terrorist Osama bin Laden, I am now told that to chant, "USA! USA!" and to sing my country's national anthem "is a violation of human dignity?"

Outrageous.

So instead of seizing an opportunity to praise the spirit of bipartisanship, the author gently reprimands and admonishes me into behaving "appropriately" and how to celebrate my feelings "appropriately."

Hell, you would think throngs of Americans were burning effigies of the murderous leader in Times Square and at Ground Zero, or demanded his lifeless body be released to the public and dragged through the streets of my city to be ripped apart limb by limb.

I do respect everyone's right to their own opinion. Hell, I don't even believe in the death penalty. Hell, I believe in peace, love and non-violence, too. I am dignified. I mourn the deaths of thousands. And I mourn the loss of my children's feelings of security to move freely around their hometown, their city, without fear for their lives and safety. I mourn the loss of their innocence.

I am glad. I am sorrowful. I am happy. I am terrified. I feel many things. And I am very pleased by the way the mission was carried out. The good psychologist should know by now that life is more gray than black and white. Human beings are deeper and more complex.

If a few are celebrating, leave them alone. Stop contributing to the drama and to the further hatred of the US abroad and self-loathing at home. (Not directed at Glow.) He needed to go. OBL was not a common murderer. OBL was not even in the category of wicked evil serial killer. And I support life for them. I do not believe in revenge.

Once every so often, an individual comes along who is not worthy of life and must be removed.

OBL was that rare individual. I celebrate and continue to mourn.

All, of course, my opinion and feelings only.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Very well said!

 

[noZme]

I've been traveling today, checking in occassionally with radio & CNN, so the latest I know is that the White House is deciding whether or not to release photos. I would love to see video of the whole mission, shoot, just put it on pay-per-view. Let us see the precision training our military elite has achieved.

AQ showed no respect for the bodies of innocents they assassinated through the years.

If there was only one frame to see, I would choose the moment BEFORE he was shot, when he knew "this is it". On 9/11, how many people never saw the end was coming. Worse yet, how many did know, there was no way out?

 

[legalmania]

Here they are the bravest, patriotic men on earth. I love these guys. Thank you for putting your life on the line to protect America. This song is dedicated to all the men and women who are putting their life on the line for us everyday, and to the hero who killed the most wanted scum in the world. Osama Bin Laden.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/03/binladen.seals/index.html?hpt=T1

---------------- Now playing: Mariah Carey - Hero via FoxyTunes
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IA3ZvCkRkQ[/ame]

 

[alwaysonmymind]

And here's the writer's next line:

" "Celebrating" the killing of any member of our species -- for example, by chanting "USA! USA!" and singing "The Star Spangled Banner" outside the White House or jubilantly demonstrating in the streets -- is a violation of human dignity."

As far as I'm concerned, simply another ivory tower ideologue wagging her finger at me, telling me how I should feel, how I should respond, blah, blah and blah, to the death of one of the most evil individuals of modern times.

Instead of viewing the spontaneous gatherings as a group of individuals, many-our next generation of leaders, who did not know each other, who hold different ideologies, most-who demonstrated restraint and civility, most-who feel a mixture of many emotions to the killing of the evil, murderous, terrorist Osama bin Laden, I am now told that to chant, "USA! USA!" and to sing my country's national anthem "is a violation of human dignity?"

Outrageous.

So instead of seizing an opportunity to praise the spirit of bipartisanship, the author gently reprimands and admonishes me into behaving "appropriately" and how to celebrate my feelings "appropriately."

Hell, you would think throngs of Americans were burning effigies of the murderous leader in Times Square and at Ground Zero, or demanded his lifeless body be released to the public and dragged through the streets of my city to be ripped apart limb by limb.

I do respect everyone's right to their own opinion. Hell, I don't even believe in the death penalty. Hell, I believe in peace, love and non-violence, too. I am dignified. I mourn the deaths of thousands. And I mourn the loss of my children's feelings of security to move freely around their hometown, their city, without fear for their lives and safety. I mourn the loss of their innocence.

I am glad. I am sorrowful. I am happy. I am terrified. I feel many things. And I am very pleased by the way the mission was carried out. The good psychologist should know by now that life is more gray than black and white. Human beings are deeper and more complex.

If a few are celebrating, leave them alone. Stop contributing to the drama and to the further hatred of the US abroad and self-loathing at home. He needed to go. OBL was not a common murderer. OBL was not even in the category of wicked evil serial killer. And I support life for them. I do not believe in revenge.

Once every so often, an individual comes along who is not worthy of life and must be removed.

OBL was that rare individual. I celebrate and continue to mourn.

All, of course, my opinion and feelings only.

Beautifully put.

I hope you send this to the author of the Huffington Post article. Please!!