UPDATE- Bin Laden is Dead-President spoke

[Linda7NJ]

It is time for the President to release the video and pictures of the killing of Osama. We can handle it, we watched the towers come down.

IMO Dead is dead and I believe he is dead, don't you?

I don't need or want to see it, I don't need to see it and I hope to never see it.

I watched the towers come down, the Pentagon burn, the burning pile of wreakage in P.A. The USS Cole, Nick Burg's beheading, American's burned, hung and dragged through the streets. WE are BETTER than that.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Maybe I'm not better than that.
I wanna see.

 

[Linda7NJ]

It would look much larger if it was all on one level instead of three levels, imo.

I heard the living quarters was about 3,000 s.f.

And it was sitting on an acre lot.

Some of the awning structure on one of the front windows looks like it shook loose when they exploded the downed helicopter.

But in comparison to everyone else who lived around him I can see where they would consider this a mansion. They say it was a million dollar mansion.

To know he had been right there for 6 years is mind boggling.

But I have always heard the best place to hide is in plain sight.

The Pakistanis knew he was there, imo. They have known all along. It wouldn't surprise me if the Pakistani government didn't have that compound built for him.

IMO

I'd be very careful with the factual basis for this sentiment. I feel we are being played. The same could be said here, in the USA.

Why didn't the U.S. Government know where the terrorist cells here were living HERE, BEFORE 9/11?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

IMO they knew he was there.
Several experts agree.

 

[Linda7NJ]

IMO they knew he was there.
Several experts agree.

Would they be the same "experts" that claimed that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?:waitasec:

 

[badhorsie]

I don't know whether it is related but breaking news here of terrorism arrests at Sellafield nuclear plant

Sellafield nuclear site terror arrests made

The Sellafield site handles nuclear material and is carefully guarded
Five men are being held under the Terrorism Act after being arrested close to the Sellafield nuclear site in Cumbria, according to police.

 

[Cubby]

IMO Dead is dead and I believe he is dead, don't you?

I don't need or want to see it, I don't need to see it and I hope to never see it.

I watched the towers come down, the Pentagon burn, the burning pile of wreakage in P.A. The USS Cole, Nick Burg's beheading, American's burned, hung and dragged through the streets. WE are BETTER than that.

The thank you button wasn't enough. Well said, thank you!

 

[Elphaba]

I think we have to be cautious in releasing video and pictures... we are dealing with extremists here, and adding more fuel to the fire won't help. True, we have seen some pretty horrible sights and handled it without going off of the deep end, but that is because we are civilized. Extremists, on the other hand, are not civilized... they are rabid animals that are easily triggered, and while knowing we killed their poster boy probably has them pretty ticked off, you better believe that pics and videos of his death being released and spread around the world will take things to a whole new danger level.

 

[badhorsie]

[video=youtube;X7ktkCQdcrY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ktkCQdcrY&feature=player_embedded[/video]

Beware one anglo-saxon curseword

Just a little humour

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Would they be the same "experts" that claimed that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?:waitasec:

No, that was a CIA informant "curveball". I'm pretty sure he's out of commision now.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

"We are going to do everything we can to make sure that nobody has any basis to try to deny that we got Osama bin Laden," John Brennan, President Barack Obama's counterterrorism adviser, said Monday. He said the U.S. will "share what we can because we want to make sure that not only the American people but the world understand exactly what happened."

U.S. officials say the still-secret photographic evidence shows a precision kill shot above his left eye, which blew away part of his skull. He was also shot in the chest, they said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42873423/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/?GT1=43001

 

[Linda7NJ]

I don't know whether it is related but breaking news here of terrorism arrests at Sellafield nuclear plant

Sellafield nuclear site terror arrests made

The Sellafield site handles nuclear material and is carefully guarded
Five men are being held under the Terrorism Act after being arrested close to the Sellafield nuclear site in Cumbria, according to police.

I can't find that story?:waitasec: Was it removed?

 

[badhorsie]

Snippage by Badhorsie

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I'm curious about the direct aftermath. Were their live adults left att he compound? If there were little kids, who dealt with them? I imagine the Pakistani government got there pretty quickly. Maybe they took care of all of it.

BBM, I read in the paper this morning that the children were taken to the hospital, am looking for a link

Following the shootout with Bin Laden, his body was carried out and taken away in one of the helicopters. Three men, including one of his sons, and a woman, who tried to act as a human shield to save him, were also killed.
Other unidentified males who survived were flown from the scene, while four children and two women, including Bin Laden’s daughter Safia, were taken away in an ambulance. It is believed his youngest wife Amal al-Sadah was also taken into custody.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Would they be the same "experts" that claimed that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq?:waitasec:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42873092/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden

Pakistan accused of playing bin Laden 'double game'
'It's hard to imagine that the military or police did not have any ideas what was going on' at compound, Sen. Levin says

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This is just one example on the front page of MSN. But if you google Pakistan News, you will get pages and pages of experts that agree they HAD to know he was there.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I can't find that story?:waitasec: Was it removed?

Heres another link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42875175/ns/world_news-europe

LONDON — Five men were arrested under anti-terrorism laws near a nuclear waste-processing plant in northwest England, police said on Tuesday.

Local police said the men were detained under the Terrorism Act near the Sellafield plant on Monday after officers stopped a car. All are from London and aged in their 20s. They were being held a police station in Manchester.

***More at link***

 

[badhorsie]

I can't find that story?:waitasec: Was it removed?

Found the right link, duh *slaps head*
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13268834

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Bin Laden hideout location challenges Pakistan credibility
US officials wonder how military missed compound in shadow of prestigious academy

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42865101/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/

Osama bin Laden’s presence in an elaborately fortified million-dollar compound “raises questions” about what some Pakistani officials might have known about the al-Qaida leader’s presence prior to Sunday’s raid that killed him, the top White House counterterrorism adviser said Monday.

The pointed comments by White House advisor John Brennan come amid mounting tensions between the Obama administration and Pakistani officials over intelligence cooperation, fueled in part by longstanding U.S. suspicions about ties between the ISI, the Pakistani intelligence service, and various terrorist groups linked to al-Qaida, such as the home-grown Laskhar e Taiba.

***more at link***

OH, here is info from one of the experts I was talking about.

But some counterterrorism experts aren’t buying it, noting that the bin Laden compound was literally walking distance from the Kakul Military Academy, the country’s premier military academy. Only a week ago, Pakistan’s Army Chief of Staff Ashfaq Parez Kayanim addressed graduating cadets about the country’s anti-terrorism efforts at the school.

Ali Soufan, a veteran former FBI counterterrorism agent, noted that the compound is located in a town heavily populated by current and former Pakistani military officers – and is relatively free of any terrorist activity. “There’s no way he could have been sitting there without the knowledge of some people in the ISI and the Pakistani military," said Soufan.

 

[Linda7NJ]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42873092/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden

Pakistan accused of playing bin Laden 'double game'
'It's hard to imagine that the military or police did not have any ideas what was going on' at compound, Sen. Levin says

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This is just one example on the front page of MSN. But if you google Pakistan News, you will get pages and pages of experts that agree they HAD to know he was there.

Ya lost me.

He has an opinion, so what? Look into how many senators backed Bush in his claims that Saddam had WMD. Guess what, they were wrong. The public had been played, lied to and lead like SHEEP.

Why does Sen. Levin hold Pakistan to a higher standard than he does the USA government?

The terrorists from 9/11 lived here, FLIGHT trained here. One, IIRC was only interested in learning how to take off, not land. That, apparently raised no concerns or red flags here.

There is zero evidence Bin Ladin EVER left that compound. Do you believe our government knows every person within a mile radius, around every military installation here, isn't a terrorist?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Ya lost me.

He has an opinion, so what? Look into how many senators backed Bush in his claims that Saddam had WMD. Guess what, they were wrong. The public had been played, lied to and lead like SHEEP.

Why does Sen. Levin hold Pakistan to a higher standard than he does the USA government?

The terrorists from 9/11 lived here, FLIGHT trained here. One, IIRC was only interested in learning how to take off, not land. That, apparently raised no concerns or red flags here.

There is zero evidence Bin Ladin EVER left that compound. Do you believe our government knows every person within a mile radius, around every military installation here, isn't a terrorist?

I explained that it was just a story I saw on the front page of MSN.
I also explained that if you google Pakistan News you would find pages of articles.
I also provided an article with quotes from a counterterrorism EXPERT

Bin Laden hideout location challenges Pakistan credibility
US officials wonder how military missed compound in shadow of prestigious academy

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42865101/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/

Osama bin Laden’s presence in an elaborately fortified million-dollar compound “raises questions” about what some Pakistani officials might have known about the al-Qaida leader’s presence prior to Sunday’s raid that killed him, the top White House counterterrorism adviser said Monday.

The pointed comments by White House advisor John Brennan come amid mounting tensions between the Obama administration and Pakistani officials over intelligence cooperation, fueled in part by longstanding U.S. suspicions about ties between the ISI, the Pakistani intelligence service, and various terrorist groups linked to al-Qaida, such as the home-grown Laskhar e Taiba.

***more at link***

OH, here is info from one of the experts I was talking about.

But some counterterrorism experts aren’t buying it, noting that the bin Laden compound was literally walking distance from the Kakul Military Academy, the country’s premier military academy. Only a week ago, Pakistan’s Army Chief of Staff Ashfaq Parez Kayanim addressed graduating cadets about the country’s anti-terrorism efforts at the school.

Ali Soufan, a veteran former FBI counterterrorism agent, noted that the compound is located in a town heavily populated by current and former Pakistani military officers – and is relatively free of any terrorist activity. “There’s no way he could have been sitting there without the knowledge of some people in the ISI and the Pakistani military," said Soufan.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Steely has started a thread on the Pakistan subject.
His OP was very informative.

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