US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

  • #121
I think that NATO members will support Greenland from everything that I've been reading tonight online. I don't think they counted on one of their members threatening to invade another member though, so that wasn't covered in their rules. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that. Getting late though so g'night all!
I think the tension and threats will go down to the wire, putting the world into stress, and then there will be a "deal."

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  • #122
But USA is part of NATO. Are there provisions if a NATO country attacks another NATO country??
I don't know. But, I do know that it has almost happened maybe 2-3 times over the decades.

Greece and Turkey have not been on good terms for centuries. Both are NATO members. Since NATO was formed, there have been several military confrontations between the two, including one in which a jet was shot down.

A Greek friend's brother got called up for the last one. He was assigned to the river that serves as the border. Both countries had long lines of soldiers standing on their respective sides every so many feet, just watching each other.

He said that whatever serious stuff was happening in Athens and Ankara, he and the Turkish soldier opposite him spent days making funny faces at each other. Then, each country agreed to send their soldiers home.
 
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  • #123
NATO Secretary General Rutte is taking the US government concerns about Arctic security seriously, and developing a NATO mission to increase security in the region. The US position of increased security is taken seriously, and the ulterior motive of taking (rather than buying) Greenland's natural resources is not addressed (for obvious reasons).

The US government cannot reasonably state that they want Greenland based on "psychological" reasons, or to bypass fair compensation for goods.

"NATO member states must work together to protect Greenland from countries like Russia and China, NATO Secretary General Rutte said.

According to Rutte, all member states, including the United States, agree on the importance of the Arctic island. The alliance would therefore be working on "new steps" to strengthen security.
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Discussions are reportedly underway regarding a new NATO mission in the area. ... Rutte says he believes Trump is doing "the right thing" for NATO. "Collective defense is crucial."​


Ownership is very important,” Mr. Trump said as he discussed, with a real estate mogul’s eye, the landmass of Greenland — three times the size of Texas but with a population of less than 60,000. He seemed to dismiss the value of having Greenland under the control of a close NATO ally.

When asked why he needed to possess the territory, he said: “Because that’s what I feel is psychologically needed for success"​

 
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Is the desire for Greenland because it could be a huge place for data centers?

Data centers appear to be a good option for short term income, but risk consuming limited freshwater resources.

"Data centers have a thirst for water, and their rapid expansion threatens freshwater supplies. Only 3% of Earth’s water is freshwater, and only 0.5% of all water is accessible and safe for human consumption. Freshwater is critical for survival. On average, a human being can live without water for only three days. Increasing drought and water shortages are reducing water availability. Meanwhile, data center developers are increasingly tapping into surface and underground aquifers to cool their facilities.

Data center water usage closely parallels energy usage and carbon emissions. As data centers use more energy for their typical data center operations and to meet AI requests, they consume larger amounts of water to cool their processor chips, so as to avoid overheating and potential damage. Similarly, as energy use increases in data centers, so do carbon emissions."


"Seawater can also be used for data center cooling – a practice that Google has adopted in at least one of its facilities. A major challenge, however, is that salt water will cause mineral buildup and corrosion in the evaporative cooling systems used by most data centers."

 
  • #126
"Denmark's prime minister, Mette Frederiksen, says her country faces a "decisive moment" in its diplomatic battle with the United States over Greenland, after President Donald Trump again suggested using force to seize the Arctic territory.

Ms Frederiksen said that "there is a conflict over Greenland", in a debate with other Danish political leaders."

 
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