US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

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Western democratic countries, including Canada, the EU, Australia, New Zealand, Greenland, Iceland, Denmark and more, are not interested, or semi-interested on condition that money is given directly to agencies that assist the people of Gaza.

Is this Plan B? NATO will not hand over Greenland, so the US will create a Peace Board where the US dictates terms and decisions while other countries enforce those terms?

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  • #622
"Speaking on the sidelines of Davos, California Gov. Gavin Newsom urged European leaders to stand up to Trump.

The U.S. president shared several bellicose social media posts early Tuesday, and said there was "no going back" on his goal to control Greenland. One post Trump shared including a picture of a meeting with European leaders last year at the Oval Office, but with what appears to be an edited map on display in which the land masses of Canada and Greenland are depicted with American stars and stripes."

NOTE: this falsified image is published by the President of the United States


I'm so glad Hobby Lobby doesn't sell gold decals to put on the Resolute desk.
 
  • #623
I found this very interesting website from Denmark called Verfassung which means constitution in English. This particular topic is about The End of NATO as we Know It
Foreboding, to say the least. It ends on a positive note, one that I believe is heeded today by all EU countries and NATO (minus the US). Europe and Canada must direct vast sums towards defence building not to defend against former threats of Russia and China, but to defend against all major powers.

Ukraine and Greenland must be defended first and foremost. Russia and the United States are threatening those two countries. It is believed that if Ukraine falls, the EU will be next. Similarly, if Greenland falls, Iceland and Canada will be next.

"It is frighteningly easy to picture a situation in which President Trump steps off a plane and declares: “I have in my hands a paper signed by Mister Putin, there will be peace for our time.” When Neville Chamberlain declared “peace for our time” on 30 September 1938, holding up the Munich Agreement which condoned the German Annexation of the Sudetenland, the world was at war only one year later.
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Within one month in office, the United States has withdrawn from the Paris Climate Agreement and the World Health Organization, blamed Ukraine, a state attacked in flagrant violation of international law, for the war waged against it and initiated bilateral talks with Russia on the future of Ukraine, regardless of Ukrainian sovereignty, making it an object rather than a subject of negotiations. Current US-strategy is designed around fast-moving shock-and-awe announcements.
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Treaty. Issuing a threat to use military force to seize control of Greenland, a self-governing territory belonging to the Kingdom of Denmark, another NATO-Member, is beyond any doubt a violation of the Prohibition of the threat of force in Article 2 (4) UN-Charter. Furthermore, this threat contradicts the terms and spirit of the NATO-Treaty. Since President Trump is legally prevented from leaving NATO by the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act (Sec. 1250A) which requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate for a decision to leave NATO, the aim is rather to undermine it. The non-committal nature of Article 5, in spite of a formidable standing NATO-command structure, leaves room for such an approach.
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A political community that cannot defend itself against external threats and must depend on others for its defence is, sooner or later, faced with decline, much like the Roman Empire. Europe still has a choice."

same link

~ in my humble opinion ~
 
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No one is ready to cancel a trade relationship, there is a warning that the direction that the US is taking against EU will have consequences.

Merz makes clear that trust is gone, and that the EU and the US "must repair the trust on which the transatlantic alliance was built." Trust between Canada and the US is broken. Trust between Greenland/ the Kingdom of Denmark and the US is broken. Trust between the US and the EU is broken. That's the reality today.

"Against that backdrop, the chancellor appealed for European unity and commended an apparent deal struck on Wednesday between President Trump and Mark Rutte, the secretary general of NATO, to strengthen Arctic security — a move that appeared to defuse Mr. Trump’s efforts to gain ownership of Greenland for the United States. Mr. Merz said Europe would not have tolerated an effort to seize the Danish territory by force and that it would have responded to tariffs meant to pressure Denmark into a sale, which Mr. Trump threatened days ago.

Mr. Merz also seemed to direct a message to Mr. Trump — with whom he has built a friendship — about the value of allies even for the most powerful countries.

“We must never forget one thing,” he said. “The world where only power counts is a dangerous place, first for small states, then for the middle powers, and ultimately, for the great ones.”

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  • #626
The claims by the United States president regarding wind farms in China are easily proven to be incorrect. Surely he doesn't expect anyone to believe him.

"Offshore wind farms may do more than boost renewable energy: they might support marine ecosystems, too. That’s the takeaway of a new study conducted in China. The researchers found that wind turbines provided support for colonies of oysters and barnacles and that fish species and biomass were more abundant near the turbines than they were in an area without the machines.

The study counters a frequent criticism of offshore wind farms—that they are detrimental to marine life and may damage the seabed. China, while being the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases, is a global leader in renewable energy build-out, including offshore wind projects. It has the largest wind power capacity of any nation and plans to build the world's largest wind turbine.

That makes absolute sense that wind turbines support and promote sea life like mussels, etc. That's why many countries that have a coast have a tendency to sink decommissioned boats to create an environment that supports sea life.
 
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"In addition to New York and New Mexico, states participating in the alliance include Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin, in addition to Guam and Puerto Rico."


 
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"In addition to New York and New Mexico, states participating in the alliance include Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and Wisconsin, in addition to Guam and Puerto Rico."


Thank you. That's the info I was looking for. I wanted to see the list of states. Arizona is a surprise, gotta admit.


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Western democratic countries, including Canada, the EU, Australia, New Zealand, Greenland, Iceland, Denmark and more, are not interested, or semi-interested on condition that money is given directly to agencies that assist the people of Gaza.

Is this Plan B? NATO will not hand over Greenland, so the US will create a Peace Board where the US dictates terms and decisions while other countries enforce those terms?

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Looks like Trump has rescinded his invitation for Canada to join his "Peace Board" per his truth social post.
 
  • #632
Looks like Trump has rescinded his invitation for Canada to join his "Peace Board" per his truth social post.
Good! At least our country doesn't have to be put in a position to decline his invite, if we so chose to ;) IMO
 
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  • #633
It is heartening to see a few people standing up to Trump at last. A pity they're not Americans.
 
  • #634
Looks like Trump has rescinded his invitation for Canada to join his "Peace Board" per his truth social post.
I find it absolutely incredible that so many nations have put up a billion dollars. Makes me wonder what the payment plan is or if the money gets refunded with interest if certain goals are met.
 
  • #635
I find it absolutely incredible that so many nations have put up a billion dollars. Makes me wonder what the payment plan is or if the money gets refunded with interest if certain goals are met.
And how long are the terms? Will Trump have a position for life?

Is there a provision that the people a Board member represents actually agrees to that representation - or just that billionaires get to decide what happens in the world because they were invited and have money?

jmo
 
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I find it absolutely incredible that so many nations have put up a billion dollars. Makes me wonder what the payment plan is or if the money gets refunded with interest if certain goals are met.
The billion dollars is only for those countries that wish to serve more than a three year term, which effectively means it's free for the first three years.

 
  • #637
Moo. His presidency time ends in 3 years. So he will get those billions. And ..well.. don't think it will be like the UN
 
  • #638
Moo. His presidency time ends in 3 years. So he will get those billions. And ..well.. don't think it will be like the UN

Yes, it's likely no coincidence that the 'free' membership is for three years and his term ends in 3 years.


The Trump administration sent out more than 50 invitations to countries around the world. Members are invited to join for free for three years.
At the end of the three-year period, the chairman of the peace board may then decide to renew a country's membership. However, if a country wishes to become a permanent member, they can do so by paying a $1 billion fee within the first year of joining the group.

 
  • #639
I found this very interesting website from Denmark called Verfassung which means constitution in English. This particular topic is about The End of NATO as we Know It

About the wars. JMO, I don’t foresee them being “over Narva.” I don’t see Narva in the cards tomorrow. Climate change still exists. The wars may be over water or pieces of land not yet underwater. I can’t understand the concept of Arctic dominance. (I have no knowledge. I understand geometry but it is all). But we don’t even know for sure how the climate will change. With the global warming, how would Arctic look like? Seriously, can we predict the map of 2030? We are thinking about “nukes”, but there may be so little habitable land that it would be too precious to nuke it.
 
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Well Trump/US won't be getting any of my gazillions of billions, and if I were a Greenlander you couldn't give me enough trillions of gazillions to make me move anywhere I didn't want to go, least of all to USA, or give away anything I don't want to, especially to the aforementioned country and leader.
 

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