UT - 5 or 6 year old girl assaulted and found in neighbors yard.

[Cicada]

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http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13325988

" She was a few streets away from her home, and officers found her parents. "

This child is 5 yrs old and was several streets away from her home? Mine is 8 and not allowed out of the yard. Wonder why they don't say where they found the parents?

 

[jnTexas]

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http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13325988

" She was a few streets away from her home, and officers found her parents. "

This child is 5 yrs old and was several streets away from her home? Mine is 8 and not allowed out of the yard. Wonder why they don't say where they found the parents?

I don't even let my 13 yr old run the neighborhood!! What is wrong with people! Surely CPS is invovled checking on the supervision of this baby girl.

 

[lillygator]

Marlene, I'm pretty shocked about that pool being unfenced. Most cities have a law against that. Those people are lucky a kid hasn't drowned.

as an aside...not all pools have to be fenced..as do not the canals or oceans....we are in fl, have a pool, which does not have to be fenced, live across a street from a canal, which anyone could fall in, and the other end of the street is the intercoastal....whta about retention ponds etc???

anyway, my hinky meter is on the teen boy.

 

[SuziQ]

as an aside...not all pools have to be fenced..as do not the canals or oceans....we are in fl, have a pool, which does not have to be fenced, live across a street from a canal, which anyone could fall in, and the other end of the street is the intercoastal....whta about retention ponds etc???

anyway, my hinky meter is on the teen boy.

My post didn't state all pools have to be fenced. And of course it's isn't feasable to fence off many areas, particularly an ocean. But yes, many many states, counties, cities, or HOA's do have pool fencing laws. I remember when I was a kid in LA county and it was made mandatory for private residences. I remembering people filing in their pools with dirt or fencing them off. Many HOA's like mine forbid pools entirely, even the little wading ones. I would also bet that alot of people have above ground pools and never think about a fence requirement or the need to notify their homeowners insurance. Alot of people just put up a pool and never think beyond that.

 

[lizzybeth]

I think, but not sure, some insurance companies require you to have fencing for a pool or trampoline. Both can be very dangerous even with adult supervision.

I feel like the young man that found her may have something to do with it. I hope not, and I feel bad for saying it, but it was my first thought. Especially after his father had said he had behavioral problems before.

 

[lillygator]

have there been any updates? I didn;t find much more out there that had been posted.

 

[VespaElf]

I cant believe the news is scant regarding this ESPECIALLY little girls parents! WHERE were they?Is this family "known"to CPS??? I think whoever did it knew the girl or is related.

 

[kgeaux]

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http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13325988

" She was a few streets away from her home, and officers found her parents. "

This child is 5 yrs old and was several streets away from her home? Mine is 8 and not allowed out of the yard. Wonder why they don't say where they found the parents?

To try to be fair to the parents, I am trying to remember that the child was surely brought to this location by the one who hurt her----it's not like they gave her permission to be several streets away. Not saying they get a complete pass from me, but on this one point I can give some grace.

I am very anxious to learn where the parents thought the little girl was, why it seems as though she was found before they noticed she was missing, and if the learning disabled 17 year old is in the clear.

 

[Cicada]

To try to be fair to the parents, I am trying to remember that the child was surely brought to this location by the one who hurt her----it's not like they gave her permission to be several streets away. Not saying they get a complete pass from me, but on this one point I can give some grace.

I am very anxious to learn where the parents thought the little girl was, why it seems as though she was found before they noticed she was missing, and if the learning disabled 17 year old is in the clear.

That is a very good possibility. Still, I stand by my post. IMO, no child of 5 should be walking the neighborhood alone. Not one house down, not two, etc. Children disappear out of their own yards and homes; why take the risk by allowing them out in the neighborhood by their self? Of course, this is my personal opinion, and some parents simply do not see the danger.

Warr describes her as a friendly little girl with responsible parents. She's seen her walking down the street to a friends' house before.

"When she's walked by, she's had Barbies. And we've teased her we want to play with her Barbies," Warr said.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=7886871

 

[SuziQ]

Grandfather: West Valley girl was choked during assault

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=7919006

 

[mysteriew]

This article came out in the Jaycee Dugard case it is talking about kids walking to school. It seems appropriate for this case too. It makes good points both ways.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/fashion/13kids.html?hpw

Here are my thoughts. Because of sex offenders, kids now have to live almost in lockdown. Can't walk to school, visit in the neighborhood, or even play in the yard unattended. They are paying for the sex offenders with an important part of their childhood and their journey to independence.

Stranger attacks are considered to be rare. But they are costly. Kids raped, tortured, missing or murdered. So where do you draw the line? How much protection is necessary and how much is being overprotective? How much danger are kids really in? Some people let their kids walk in the neighborhood. Some people let their kids walk for blocks. Some people confine kids to the yard. Some people won't let children outside without an adult. It is common sense that to some extent it will depend on the level of maturity of the child. But even then, no child is a match for an adult.

Then you also have to take this into consideration. The majority of sex attacks on kids is by persons known to them. They are the GF's, the uncles, the dad's, mom's boyfriends, the babysitters. Sometimes even their teachers or doctors. So the parents who are not letting their kids play outside, are they also not allowing their kids to spend time with other adults?

I don't know the answers. But wanted to see what you all think.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

They were supposed to go interview her today. I was hoping to hear of an arrest.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

More Details Emerging About Assault

The girl's grandfather says she is doing better, considering what happened, but he admits he's still very angry about the crime.

According to the girl's grandfather, she was choked and assaulted. He says the girl told her family she walked to her friend's house on Friday, but her friend wasn't home.

Moments later, the girl says she was lured into a backyard and choked. The grandfather says the girl passed out and doesn't remember anything after that.

"It's just horrible to think what she could be going through. We don't know exactly what she went through," neighbor Todd Levie said.

Police have not commented officially on whether the child was sexually assaulted, nor would they discuss whether they have a suspect in the case. Even so, police believe the suspect targeted the girl as his victim.

"It doesn't appear to be random at this point," said West Valley police Lt. John Coyle. "But again, that'll all come out once the detectives are finished with their follow-up interviews."

We know investigators talked to the 17-year-old boy who first encountered the injured little girl. His father, Don Bullock, talked to KSL News shortly after.

He called his 16-year-old sister, and then they called their parents, who, in turn, called 911. Bullock says both his son and daughter are mentally challenged.

Right now, they're not saying if they're anticipating an arrest anytime soon.

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[Vegas Bride]

If it's true she was lured into the yard she was found in, Imo the person who lured her felt safe and comfortable being there.

VB

 

[Dawnmarie]

I think the teenage boy did it and then felt guilty and pretended to find her. JMO.

 

[Vegas Bride]

I think the teenage boy did it and then felt guilty and pretended to find her. JMO.

On last nights local news they showed a clip of the boys father talking about his son. He said his son had been mowing the grass and heard the girl crying out when he took a break. So doesn't that put the boy in the yard before the attack happened?
Whoever did this needs to be caught before they do it again to another child!

VB

 

[kgeaux]

I wish I could get a clear picture of what the news articles are describing. When they say the 17 year old found her "behind his fence" are they saying she was OUTside of his yard? When they say the attack was not random, does that mean they know of an older kid/adult she had previous contact with? This almost (to me, anyway) sounds like it would be someone from the friend's home---

As far as for the 17 year old hearing her crying, I don't think that means he had contact with her before she was choked into unconsciousness. She could have awakened and begun to cry. It doesn't sound good for this young man, but knowing that the area was a popular teen hang-out at least leaves a possibility that someone other than him was responsible.

 

[Vegas Bride]

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=7928070

the 17 yo has been arrested

VB

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=7928070

mother of the 6 yo girl reacts to the arrest

 

[jnTexas]

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=7928070

the 17 yo has been arrested

VB

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=7928070

mother of the 6 yo girl reacts to the arrest

darn i was really hoping in my heart he was not the perp. though I new in my sleuthy mind he was.

 

[Vegas Bride]

darn i was really hoping in my heart he was not the perp. though I new in my sleuthy mind he was.

Yes it would have been nice if there really was a "hero" that had come to help her. Now the only hero there will be will be the little girl herself! She sounds like a very strong and brave girl who was able to tell how this monster lured her to the yard. My thoughts and prayers go out to her.

VB