UT UT - Alisa Petrov,15, from So Jordan, left school in American Fork, took UTA train to Provo, asked multiple for help to get to Las Vegas, 21 Apr 2025

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While I understand that young teens engage in sex talk and acts, I find it very hard to believe believe that a "normal" 14/15 year old girl is comfortable with the idea of "sodomy", threesomes with prostitutes, and being tied up during sex with older men. I feel she must have been sexually assaulted at a younger age or was dealing with some mental health issues. I feel so sad that she was being groomed for sexual gratification by gross grown men. I hope that she is found safe and can get the help she needs to move on to live a healthy and happy life.
 
No one would deliberately take a train from Salt Lake City to Las Vegas, as you have to go west on the California Zephyr to Reno or the bay area to get a connection to Las Veas

She also deliberately went south to Provo, not north to Lake City. I think Menard may have been the one helping to organize this trip.

It makes far more sense that she would take a bus from Provo to Las Vegas. There fastest is at 5:30 PM with a bus change in Cedar City, UT. It gets into Vegas about midnight and costs ~ $140.
 
KooshBall said:
While I understand that young teens engage in sex talk and acts, I find it very hard to believe believe that a "normal" 14/15 year old girl is comfortable with the idea of "sodomy", threesomes with prostitutes, and being tied up during sex with older men. I feel she must have been sexually assaulted at a younger age or was dealing with some mental health issues. I feel so sad that she was being groomed for sexual gratification by gross grown men. I hope that she is found safe and can get the help she needs to move on to live a healthy and happy life.
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yes, having read the charging document, I am not sure why she was not scared
 
Herat said:
No one would deliberately take a train from Salt Lake City to Las Vegas, as you have to go west on the California Zephyr to Reno or the bay area to get a connection to Las Veas

She also deliberately went south to Provo, not north to Lake City. I think Menard may have been the one helping to organize this trip.

It makes far more sense that she would take a bus from Provo to Las Vegas. There fastest is at 5:30 PM with a bus change in Cedar City, UT. It gets into Vegas about midnight and costs ~ $140.
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She may have sexual trauma or some other history (likely given several factors here).

But p—n is ruining our youths’ understanding of sex and absolutely moving the bar of what is normal or expected in sex. Not saying this is the case here because no clue but her talking about those in sexting is unfortunately not completely abnormal at this point (in other circumstances)
 
KooshBall said:
While I understand that young teens engage in sex talk and acts, I find it very hard to believe believe that a "normal" 14/15 year old girl is comfortable with the idea of "sodomy", threesomes with prostitutes, and being tied up during sex with older men. I feel she must have been sexually assaulted at a younger age or was dealing with some mental health issues. I feel so sad that she was being groomed for sexual gratification by gross grown men. I hope that she is found safe and can get the help she needs to move on to live a healthy and happy life.
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This is exactly why to me this sounded like adults communicating with each other with a child involved rather than a child seeking out these kinds of conversations with grown men, specifically. There’s just something about it that doesn’t sound the way a 14 year old would interact. My gut is that home life (and I don’t necessarily mean her parents, but someone at home, neighbour, coach, teacher, other family member) wasn’t safe. MOO
 
Teche said:
Is it posted anywhere else? I'm unable to open the attachment.
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Yes, I had posted a link to timeline and all the affidavits earlier in the thread

Here s the link

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As the parent of a teenage girl, I lose sleep over these cases. It sounds like her parents tried to keep her safe and monitor her activities online. AP classes are no joke, she must be smart and hardworking. I wonder what went wrong here? How did she fall victim to multiple pedophiles in a short amount of time? I am hoping for a happy ending here.

All my own opinion.
 
If you google - hyper sexuality in 15 year old girls. There is some interesting reading regarding possible causes. From various mental health disorders to coping with trauma.

I agree with those that suspect there is an underlying root with AP.
 
Knox said:
If you google - hyper sexuality in 15 year old girls. There is some interesting reading regarding possible causes. From various mental health disorders to coping with trauma.

I agree with those that suspect there is an underlying root with AP.
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Websleuths sends me down enough google rabbit holes. I think I’ll leave this one out of my search history, although I have no doubt that’s it’s interesting.

Whatever led this young girl down this path I just hope it isn’t too late.
 
Herat said:
No one would deliberately take a train from Salt Lake City to Las Vegas, as you have to go west on the California Zephyr to Reno or the bay area to get a connection to Las Veas

She also deliberately went south to Provo, not north to Lake City. I think Menard may have been the one helping to organize this trip.

It makes far more sense that she would take a bus from Provo to Las Vegas. There fastest is at 5:30 PM with a bus change in Cedar City, UT. It gets into Vegas about midnight and costs ~ $140.
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Sometimes I wonder if she, indeed, reached Las Vegas. I don't know what to think: on the one hand, strip is safe, but going to the NE area, there are still small hotels or suites, but it becomes more shady.

There is obviously no shortage of paid sex, and I am no prude, but sometimes couples just stand out, you see? But I never saw anyone taking minors out, which doesn't mean that this business doesn't exist of course.

But I wonder if she is still in Utah, tbh. If she wanted independence and found it, on whatever conditions, she could stay there.

Sometimes I ask myself, why can't they project her face on the Sphere, if they are sure she's there, to gain exposure, but maybe they have a valid reason not to do it.
 
PromotedPawn said:
Websleuths sends me down enough google rabbit holes. I think I’ll leave this one out of m search history, although I have no doubt that’s it’s interesting.

Whatever led this young girl down this path I just hope it isn’t too late.
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Sometimes I wonder if her goal, if unsafe, could also be protective. She is willing to cross some boundaries to gain independence. She doesn't know that it may be dangerous, but as long as she is not trying to run away from them, she may be alive. She is a valuable commodity in that sick world. Sad, but true.

We'll see what happens. I hope she is alive. I don't pretend to have sixth sense because I don't, but logically, I don't yet have hopeless vibes, you know. I get dangerous vibes, because she is a naive child, but not bad ones.

I hope Utah police is doing all the right things.
 
Do we know for sure that this Ménard guy didn’t meet up with AP?

Who did AP tell she was running away and not to contact her?

I’m getting confused.

I remember trying to figure out how Libby could cross paths with 2 creeps. Thought it highly unlikely. Now we have AP coming across 3 and who knows, maybe more. I’m certainly not naive but my goodness!

Our world is such a very sad and dangerous place at times.

I am extremely fearful for AP.

MOO
 
The paywall article said she had about $1000 from birthday money she just received. Maybe that was her trigger to run away once she had some funds to make it happen.

I have two teenage daughters, and unfortunately kids nowadays do bad things on social media. In my opinion, she was upset her parents didn’t let her have a phone or go on SM without their supervision. It mentioned she wanted to create inappropriate videos on Tik Tok. Kids find a way. I chose to allow my daughters to have phones, but I have passwords to their SM and check in. I also told my younger daughter she isn’t allowed on Discord or Reddit.

Sadly AP likely has depression or another mental problem that was undiagnosed.

There has to be other people hiding or helping her. I’m not sure she made it to Vegas either. There’s so many cameras there.
 
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