Identified! UT - Beaver Co., WhtFem UP12045, 18-40, on train, Jan'14 - Amber Brown

[gnsndr33]

Here is link to Heather Lewis info. Sorry new to adding pictures and links. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lewis_heather.html

 

[carbuff]

I would also like to point out that in death a persons face can change almost instantly, sunken in, nose position etc.

I work in a nursing home and have witnessed several times people who have become deceased and their faces look so distorted and almost not like them, it's frighting how much a body changes moments after death.

This is so true. My mother-in-law died in a nursing home so Mr. Carbuff and I had to identify her at the funeral home before she could be cremated. I did not recognize her.

I mean, all the features were there and I knew it was her, but if you had showed me a picture based on how she looked, I not only wouldn't have recognized her, I would have said it didn't even look particularly like her.

 

[carbuff]

Here is link to Heather Lewis info. Sorry new to adding pictures and links. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lewis_heather.html

I did a side by side using Carl's reconstruction and the straight-on views of Heather's face.

 

[gnsndr33]

I did a side by side using Carl's reconstruction and the straight-on views of Heather's face.

Its likely not her but the age progressed photo does look alot like her. I wonder if they have finger prints or dna for heather?

 

[Sleuthster]

She also has a dark birthmark "2 cm pigmented nevus "birth mark" on lateral aspect of upper right arm"

 

[carbuff]

Somebody mentioned the Bob Marley colors earlier. Those are the colors of the Rastafarian followers, "Rasta" for short.

Yeah, Rasta colors and sometimes just reggae fan colors -- it all kind of goes together.

I found a bunch of similar-looking tats through Google, but they all stripe the color vertically. I only found one with the yellow-red-green striping horizontally, and it was just strips across all the leaves, not individual leaves making the stripes.

I think it's something people who know her might remember.

 

[FiveFelines]

I'm going to reach out on a couple of train hopping forums tomorrow to see if anyone recognizes her (will post Carl's reconstruction of her face and tattoo). I've contacted LE about matches before but never posted elsewhere online. Does anyone know if this is okay (can I identify myself as from WS, etc.)? Thanks!

 

[CarlK90245]

I'm going to reach out on a couple of train hopping forums tomorrow to see if anyone recognizes her (will post Carl's reconstruction of her face and tattoo). I've contacted LE about matches before but never posted elsewhere online. Does anyone know if this is okay (can I identify myself as from WS, etc.)? Thanks!

We are not supposed to present ourselves as members of Websleuths when contacting persons outside of the forums.

Go ahead and inquire around the train hopping forums, but WS admin doesn't want anyone giving the impression that they are speaking on behalf of WS.

 

[FiveFelines]

We are not supposed to present ourselves as members of Websleuths when contacting persons outside of the forums.

Go ahead and inquire around the train hopping forums, but WS admin doesn't want anyone giving the impression that they are speaking on behalf of WS.

Got it. Thanks for clarifying!

 

[rosesfromangels]

Most disturbing thing here is what seems to be a boot print on her right shoulder.

Do we know if the post mortem exam suggests she fell on top of the train car? Was she awkwardly splayed or looked like she had placed herself there?
Dang that boot print is bothering me....

 

[gnsndr33]

On her report it says estimated postmortem interval - days. Does this mean she was dead days before she was found?

 

[gnsndr33]

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21538/153. Regina Woodward she has chipped front tooth and looks a lot like her.

 

[carbuff]

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21538/153. Regina Woodward she has chipped front tooth and looks a lot like her.

She does look a lot like her but the absence of the peace symbol and the presence of the butterfly tat would seem to rule her out.

 

[CarlK90245]

Most disturbing thing here is what seems to be a boot print on her right shoulder.

I don't think that's a boot print. That looks like typical lividity and blanching. The lividity is caused by blood pooling in the lowest point of the body. In this case, she was lying on her back.

The patterns of blanching are caused by her body's contact with the uneven surface upon which her body was resting. The scaffolding on top of the train car probably consists of metal bars and planks with a surface designed for traction.

 

[Sleuthster]

I'm not sure that anyone should automatically be ruled out because of the tattoo. She could have runaway/disappeared and got the tattoo on her travels. My dd went on an adventure for 6 weeks to New Orleans with her hippie friends. She came back with 2 tattoos on her leg/ankle. Not as big as this girls but not small either. TG she came back and realized hopping trains and sleeping in the park was not the adventure she imagined.

She's gotten more tats since and she has a friend who has a kit and does them in peoples homes. So it's possible someone gave her the tattoo after she left home.

However, Regina Woodward had a butterfly tattoo which would be more difficult to explain the absence and her hair seems too dark to me.

 

[carbuff]

She seriously looks like Christina Bussell, but again the tattoos don't match up.

http://lostnmissing.tumblr.com/post/21511085366/the-family-of-26-year-old-christina-bussell-of

I'm listing her here just so others don't have to spend time following the lead only to come up against the tat that makes the ruleout.

 

[CarlK90245]

I'm not sure that anyone should automatically be ruled out because of the tattoo.

A MP with no tattoos indicated would not be ruled out. But a MP who does have tattoos other than the one shown on the Jane Doe would be ruled out.

In the case of Christina Bussell, she can be ruled out because she has tattoos that aren't found on the Jane Doe.

 

[Sleuthster]

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/21206/1/

Jade Thornberg, missing from Utah. What do you think?

She has a tattoo of a scorpion on leg though.

I think she looks a lot like her except the tattoo. I do think that rules her out unless the coroner missed putting that down.

 

[Sleuthster]

A MP with no tattoos indicated would not be ruled out. But a MP who does have tattoos other than the one shown on the Jane Doe would be ruled out.

In the case of Christina Bussell, she can be ruled out because she has tattoos that aren't found on the Jane Doe.

Thank you, I agree. I guess I meant to say "new" tattoos.

 

[carbuff]

I even went over the UID's tattoo in magnified view trying to see if it might have been put on over another tattoo, since Bussell's is also on her back. But it looks clean and crisp and quite new.

I'm gonna go ask astridxxx to come over and have a look at it...