Identified! UT - Beaver Co., WhtFem UP12045, 18-40, on train, Jan'14 - Amber Brown

[astridxx]

I have gone through every case in namus with blond hair and blue eyes and haven't come across anything, I have goggled and reversed picture searched to no luck.

Maybe I overlooked someone or they weren't reported.

It's very possible she simply hasn't been added to namus or she's a street kid whose family is just kinda used to her vagrancy.


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[gnsndr33]

I just noticed they also changed her tattoo info from feathers to Jamaican marijuana leaf.

 

[alllads]

Jane Doe has a spot between her eyebrows. I can't tell if it's a blemish or a mole. I lean toward mole. Any thoughts?

I've zoomed in and to me it looks exactly like a post-acne blotch, or an acne scar that isn't very old. Like, exactly.

 

[jenstar]

So looking at the pic, I'm trying to figure out what she would have really looked like in life..and what she'd done right before getting on that train. I wonder what the contents of her stomach were. (I know it sounds gross) But logically we could narrow down where she was by the food she ate. If for example she had a rally fry in there, of course we'd calculate digestion time and backtrack to the nearest rally's however many hours before her death)..just a thought though. I don't know if it can really work that way.
Also, if you look at the corners of her mouth, it looks like she still has some sticky dirt on the corners. (Kinda like kids get when they drink straight out of a cup and then play in dirt). Maybe I'm just reading too much into the dirtmarks. But I could suppose that she'd drank or finished a soda from a takeout place, and then got on the car.
Lord knows that if she knew she was going to take a ride..she'd have to pee..then eat. Right? Moo/ my speculations, observations and such..

 

[jenstar]

http://missingpersons.dps.state.nm.us/mpposter_serv?id=M43581
Audrey Annette Freeman? Not in Namus. NM Database for MPs

 

[bbbd4u]

http://missingpersons.dps.state.nm.us/mpposter_serv?id=M43581
Audrey Annette Freeman? Not in Namus. NM Database for MPs

Audreys eyes are listed as hazel so I would take that as no it couldnt be her.

 

[carbuff]

Jane Doe has a spot between her eyebrows. I can't tell if it's a blemish or a mole. I lean toward mole. Any thoughts?

When I enlarged the photo, it looked like a spot of mascara or eyeliner to me.

Correction: I was probably looking at a different spot. I'm not sure what that other one is. Looks almost like a piercing stud?

 

[carbuff]

It's very possible she simply hasn't been added to namus or she's a street kid whose family is just kinda used to her vagrancy.


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I've been trying to search state and local listings -- sheriff's websites and that sort of thing -- because many areas don't upload their missing to Namus unless they think the person left the area. Assuming they upload at all.

 

[jenstar]

I've been trying to search state and local listings -- sheriff's websites and that sort of thing -- because many areas don't upload their missing to Namus unless they think the person left the area. Assuming they upload at all.

Yea, me too. NM for sure has to get on the ball with that sort of thing. For some reason, I feel like shes "from" a southern state but what if she knew it was going north to utah? What could be there for her.
Now I'm wondering if she was a kidnap victim from long ago that really can't be ID'd because her face has changed so much. moo

 

[jenstar]

Oh, and I thought about this before I fell asleep last night her hair length is 24cm. Roughly nine inches. Makes me think she might have had a bob haircut @ TOD. Maybe (3 inch hair all over) being a "pixie cut" that grew out for a year. 6 inches would have been the average growth in one year. Just something to think about. moo
I mean who knows she could have started out "long". But for some reason my gut tells me she likes short hair. moo

 

[carbuff]

Oh, and I thought about this before I fell asleep last night her hair length is 24cm. Roughly nine inches. Makes me think she might have had a bob haircut @ TOD. Maybe (3 inch hair all over) being a "pixie cut" that grew out for a year. 6 inches would have been the average growth in one year. Just something to think about. moo
I mean who knows she could have started out "long". But for some reason my gut tells me she likes short hair. moo

Good point, her hair does look like it's growing out from a shorter cut. I wonder if that indicates how long she's been on the road.

The more I look at that tattoo, the more I think it looks unfinished. It's quite rare though not unheard of to have that chicken foot peace sign without the enclosing circle. There's a ring of bare skin where it looks like the circle should go. It's healed but still very bright.

Both of those would point to going on the road six months to a year ago.

 

[jessica-]

I have a tattoo that was done in 2009 and the black and color looks just like the UID's does, I would say the tattoo is at least 4-5 years old IMHO. Also, alot of people would have seen this tattoo as it is on her upper back (Ie) Summertime. Many people would have noticed her tattoo, it's not a hidden tattoo that people couldn't see.

 

[jenstar]

I have a tattoo that was done in 2009 and the black and color looks just like the UID's does, I would say the tattoo is at least 4-5 years old IMHO. Also, alot of people would have seen this tattoo as it is on her upper back (Ie) Summertime. Many people would have noticed her tattoo, it's not a hidden tattoo that people couldn't see.

I have a tattoo between my shoulderblades too, but it's much smaller. I agree that the tattoo would have gotten noticed as big as hers was. Mine hides well under most styles of shirts. But tattoos in general are meant to be seen at some point in time.(ie she liked the beach/warm weather). I really don't look at the tattoo as "unfinished" but two separate pieces. She could have wanted the tattoo of the peace sign to "fade out" and be a reverse image. Then later had the pot leaves with color added. I also have a tattoo made with the same type of ink they used. It stays black for awhile but as it ages it turns a dark blue. They called it (india/indian ink?)
As for the color; I don't think that the pot leaves are over 4 years old, it's not really faded but at the edges of the black, and yellow ink is usually the first to fade.
The thought that just came to me was, why didn't she merge the two tattoos instead of putting one behind the other. She could have had the peace sign retouched and colored too...??
Was it one that she got with a friend, or someone she knows had one just like it? moo

 

[Tssiemer]

I see her has a beach, yoga, hippie type. Maybe growing her hair out for dreads. Very trusting. Wanted to help people. Then something happened, loss of job, rape, death in family and began self medicating. Got caught up in the wrong crowd. Now here she is, another nameless human being someone threw away.

 

[FiveFelines]

Namus now shows her fingerprints as entered into the system. No DNA yet.

 

[jessica-]

Looking at the clothing pictures again I noticed

Firstly, the pants have a white scuff all over them, so I do believe she walked on the train. Her pants also have holes in them and were worn inside out, unless the detectives don't want to show the outside of them?

Secondly, the pair of underwear has a stain of red on the white top band, on the opposite side of the shirt there is a red stain that looks like blood? (Pictures attached)

Also the ring is very well worn, maybe that might identify her? It looks as though it is worn daily and reminds me of a ring my husband use to wear, so mens ring?

EDIT: The pictures are not showing the red very clearly but if you go on her namus page and zoom in you'll see it is very red and not a piant looking red.

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12045

 

[jessica-]

Apparently wearing a black ring on your right middle finger is a sign of asexuality, then again she could have just liked it and bought the ring but it would be interesting to find out what finger she had it on.

 

[astridxx]

Remember she had no signs of heterosexual sex on her, and her pubic and leg hair was long and unkempt. IMO she was homeless.

Couple new replies over at STP

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[Tssiemer]

Getting heated at STP.

 

[FiveFelines]

Re the ring: Someone at STP suggested that it looked like a man's wedding ring and he thought she was a lesbian. I thought he was being dumb but perhaps there's something to that. If she had a girlfriend, someone might be missing her. I think she was homeless/transient too, despite the lack of other belongings.