UT - Dylan Rounds, 19, Lucin, Box Elder Co, May 2022 #2 *Arrest*

[indicolite22]

A youtuber who is a paralegal attended CV's hearing yesterday and made a few interesting observations afterwards. This is the same youtuber who recorded CC's interview with the media after JB's hearing.

IMO it's possible that CV was not involved in Dylan's disappearance.

 

[Seattle1]

A youtuber who is a paralegal attended CV's hearing yesterday and made a few interesting observations afterwards. This is the same youtuber who recorded CC's interview with the media after JB's hearing.

IMO it's possible that CV was not involved in Dylan's disappearance.

Thanks. As far as we know, unlike JB, CV was never named by LE as a suspect.

 

[carbuff]

I think JB had help but I don't think it was CV.

 

[JenaTaoson]

I think JB had help but I don't think it was CV.

Given JB's weight and height, I definitely agree with you. Can you imagine someone his size trying to move a body by himself?

 

[GMS]

A youtuber who is a paralegal attended CV's hearing yesterday and made a few interesting observations afterwards. This is the same youtuber who recorded CC's interview with the media after JB's hearing.

IMO it's possible that CV was not involved in Dylan's disappearance.

Definitely interesting...of note I think the idea that search warrants may have been sealed due to immunity and/or turning state's evidence.

 

[Seattle1]

Definitely interesting...of note I think the idea that search warrants may have been sealed due to immunity and/or turning state's evidence.

I've checked the felon federal gun charge cases for both CB and CV on the US federal docket (Pacer) and seems the cases for both defendants here have been closed/merged. Nonetheless, docs for both defendants were previously sealed by the court.

I'm recalling that since the weapons were deemed stolen, new federal charges are warranted which apparently required the charges filed under new case numbers which I can't search/locate at this time.

IMO, there is no evidence that any defendant is cooperating as a witness for this case. Speculation by bloggers is just that -- speculation and opinion only.

IMO, Govt prosecutors do not typically discuss ongoing cases with random spectators.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I’m hanging in best I can, but the not knowing is pure torture," his mother, Candice Cooley, told Fox News Digital.

Flyer urging supporters to plant seeds in Dylan Rounds' honor on his 20th birthday, Aug. 1. (Candice Cooley)

"I have been mailing out seed packets all week to all over the country, and we have local places where they can be picked up," Cooley said. "We have had an amazing amount of people join us from all over the world."

As they gear up to plant seeds, she said the family is awaiting the results of crime lab testing on some of the evidence.

Utah farmer Dylan Rounds now missing for two months as 20th birthday approaches

Dylan Rounds, the 19-year-old farmer who left his Idaho home to work a plot of land in Utah has now been missing for two months.

www.foxnews.com

 

[GMS]

As they gear up to plant seeds, she said the family is awaiting the results of crime lab testing on some of the evidence.

Utah farmer Dylan Rounds now missing for two months as 20th birthday approaches

Dylan Rounds, the 19-year-old farmer who left his Idaho home to work a plot of land in Utah has now been missing for two months.

www.foxnews.com

I'm curious what evidence LE was able to collect from the trailer / farm and surrounding areas? and obtain from areas they may have searched related to JB and other possible unnamed suspects at this time.

 

[Ravenmoon]

If they disposed of DR in the one of the mines, they don't really need to have a lot of muscle or strength.

I remember Erin Corwin (Sp?)
All that guy had to do was get her close enough to the edge of a mine, carry out the killing and push her in.

JMO

EBM

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[Seattle1]

Thanks for the link to Utah ABC News @imstilla.grandma.

If the FBI has told CC that CV's arrest warrant(s) allegedly connecting CV to this case have been misconstrued, then it follows that he's not entered into any plea deal or witness immunity specifically for this case. (To be clear, CV is no choir boy and has several unrelated charges in and outside of UT pending that we don't have info about and can't speak to).

IMO, CV's association with DR includes:

1) DR picked CV up on a gravel road several days prior to DR's disappearance after he walked out of the desert (bloody, shoeless), in a drug-induced state. We also know that after DR was reported missing, CV contacted authorities from the Ogden area to allegedly clear his own name after his desert encounter with DR was reported in MSM.

2) Suspect JB was in possession of a weapon (Winchester Rifle) that was allegedly left behind in a trailer previously occupied by CV, now squatted by JB.

IMO, the Winchester Rifle has probably been determined stolen property. MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Utah farmer Dylan Rounds now missing for two months as 20th birthday approaches

Dylan Rounds, the 19-year-old farmer who left his Idaho home to work a plot of land in Utah has now been missing for two months.

www.foxnews.com

7/28/22

James Adrian Brenner, a 58-year-old who was squatting on a neighbor’s land, is being held on federal firearms charges and has been named a suspect in Rounds’ disappearance. No charges have been filed in direct connection to the missing person case.

Brenner was convicted of shooting and seriously wounding another man at a campsite in Maryland in 1986 in a work-related dispute, according to authorities there. He has numerous other convictions over the years and has served federal time, records show.

[..]

According to a neighbor identified in court documents as DH, at some point after Rounds’ disappearance, Brenner asked him to conceal three black powder guns and a .22-caliber rifle without a serial number. After being contacted by the FBI, DH gave the weapons to authorities. Citing past felony convictions, they charged Brenner with being a felon in possession of a firearm.

[..]

As they gear up to plant seeds, she said the family is awaiting the results of crime lab testing on some of the evidence.

"We are waiting to hear back," she said. "That, we are hoping, will give us some answers."

 

[JenaTaoson]

If they disposed of DR in the one of the mines, they don't really need to have a lot of muscle or strength.

I remember Erin Corwin (Sp?)
All that guy had to do was get her close enough to the edge of a mine, carry out the killing and push her in.

JMO

EBM

I definitely agree with your opinion that he could be in a mine, but even still,a great many of those mines are on hills and would be difficult to access with out drag marks in the dirt if it was one person taking him. Or even footprints if he was carried. MOO

 

[carbuff]

I definitely agree with your opinion that he could be in a mine, but even still,a great many of those mines are on hills and would be difficult to access with out drag marks in the dirt if it was one person taking him. Or even footprints if he was carried. MOO

Even getting a body into the truck box to drive to a mine would require a fair amount of effort.

 

[JenaTaoson]

Even getting a body into the truck box to drive to a mine would require a fair amount of effort.

Absolutely, and adrenaline could play into it but still no tracks? No, that dirt out there tells stories of everything that has happened.

 

[MAHBOOBOO]

Even getting a body into the truck box to drive to a mine would require a fair amount of effort.

Hmmm. That just got me thinking.

I live alone and often need to load heavy things into the bed of my truck. To achieve this I back my truck up against a large berm close to my house. Then I just wheel or drag the heavy object from the berm into the back of the truck.

That "pile of dirt" would be PERFECT for this. And if DR's boots were kinda hanging off the tailgate or JB just threw them in the back, they could have fallen off DR's feet once JB pulled away from the berm. That could explain how the boots ended up next to the dirt pile.

Here's a really bad visual of what I mean.

 

[indicolite22]

Any word on the upcoming JB's court hearings? Will they be accessible to the public remotely?

 

[Laughing]

Hmmm. That just got me thinking.

I live alone and often need to load heavy things into the bed of my truck. To achieve this I back my truck up against a large berm close to my house. Then I just wheel or drag the heavy object from the berm into the back of the truck.

That "pile of dirt" would be PERFECT for this. And if DR's boots were kinda hanging off the tailgate or JB just threw them in the back, they could have fallen off DR's feet once JB pulled away from the berm. That could explain how the boots ended up next to the dirt pile.

Here's a really bad visual of what I mean.

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We do something similar to load motorcycles.

Your suggestions sure makes sense to me.

Anyone notice a wheelbarrow, even a two-wheeler, in any of the pictures?

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[carbuff]

Hmmm. That just got me thinking.

I live alone and often need to load heavy things into the bed of my truck. To achieve this I back my truck up against a large berm close to my house. Then I just wheel or drag the heavy object from the berm into the back of the truck.

That "pile of dirt" would be PERFECT for this. And if DR's boots were kinda hanging off the tailgate or JB just threw them in the back, they could have fallen off DR's feet once JB pulled away from the berm. That could explain how the boots ended up next to the dirt pile.

Here's a really bad visual of what I mean.

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Oh, that is an excellent thought.

 

[Seattle1]

Any word on the upcoming JB's court hearings? Will they be accessible to the public remotely?

I've not had an opportunity to search JB's merged Federal file for any updates but we know that US District Court (Fed) does not allow cameras, live tweeting, inside the courtroom, and generally do not provide remote access to the public.

We know that JB has two hearings in Utah 1st District Court (Box Elder) on 8/1 as linked below, and even though the words "WEBEX CONT DECISION TO PRELIM" appear on the docket, WEBEX is not a link that directs the viewer to a virtual courtroom or dial-in passcode to listen to the proceedings.

Unless ABC4 UTAH Marcos Ortiz attends and provides an update, I think the paralegal YT host is probably the only alternative for a public spectator update (even though her YT is not being linked on the Official FB page).

FIRST DISTRICT - Box Elder

STATE OF UTAH
Attorneys:
DUNCAN, BRIAN
vs.
JAMES A BRENNER
Attorneys:
STUART, BRADY

DOB: 12/2/1963

Case # 211100128
11:15 AM - 8/1/2022
COURTROOM 3
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Judge/Commissioner:
BRANDON MAYNARD
WEBEX CONT DECISION TO PRELIM
State Felony

3rd Degree Felony
AGGRAVATED ASSAULT
2/20/2021

OTN: 63956270
Citation: #
LEA: S02 #21-000741
Prosecuting Agency: C02 #21-214

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FIRST DISTRICT - Box Elder

STATE OF UTAH
Attorneys:
WARDLE, BLAIR
vs.
JAMES A BRENNER
Attorneys:
STUART, BRADY

DOB: 12/2/1963

Case # 221100171
11:15 AM - 8/1/2022
COURTROOM 3
View courthouse address
Judge/Commissioner:
BRANDON MAYNARD
WEBEX CONT DECISION TO PRELIM
State Felony

3rd Degree Felony
PURCH, TRANS, POSSESS, USE OF A FIREARM BY RESTRICTED PERSON
6/20/2022
3rd Degree Felony
PURCH, TRANS, POSSESS, USE OF A FIREARM BY RESTRICTED PERSON
6/20/2022
3rd Degree Felony
PURCH, TRANS, POSSESS, USE OF A FIREARM BY RESTRICTED PERSON
6/20/2022

OTN: 63956866
Citation: #
LEA: S02 #22-002281
Prosecuting Agency: C02 #22-658
Sheriff: #

Court Calendar Detail - Utah Courts

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