UT UT - Dylan Rounds, 19, wkg on farm, “weird run-in” with a guy walking on gravel rd, no phone & CC activity, Lucin, Box Elder Co, 25 May 2022

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  • #761
Looking at that page now I'd find it hard to believe it's a verifiable source for info on here.

Are you talking about the Official missing Facebook page for Dylan run by his mom? It is allowed per TOS.
 
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I wonder what signs of foul play emerged since the boots were found? Apparently the family considered the boots left behind and the truck being washed as signs, while the police did not.
It may be a matter of time: no sightings, no contact, no bank transactions, no cell phone activity. Perhaps they are finding out new information during the course of interviews and investigation?
 
  • #764
When he was last seen in Montello, NV was he eating alone or was he with someone? I can’t seem to find this anywhere.
 
  • #765
According to his mom (from the dutyron interview) when he had the “weird guy” run-in, he had his hand on his pistol. He wasn’t fearful for that reason.

If someone harmed him, it likely happened fast. He didn’t see it coming IMO. It could be someone he knew. He usually carried his firearm with him. Since the pistol is missing I am assuming he was carrying.
 
  • #766
FWIW, according to mom, the tipster is the owner of the bar/restaurant and also the one that walked back their claim of when they last saw Dylan.
The same person also did work for Dylan in the past and had their backhoe on the farm at the time of Dylan's disappearance.
 
  • #767
The boots were found near the shop where the grain truck is stored.

Here’s a map: Dylan Rounds Case Map

Photo of where boots were found
View attachment 349741

Thanks, that helps. I had been picturing the two locations as directly connected by a road. But it looks like you have to zigzag through some fairly rugged terrain to get from the shed back to the house? Normally I'd say that five miles isn't much of a walk for somebody who is used to it, but rugged terrain plus storms coming on sounds like a bad combination. Now my brain is buzzing. Was he hurrying to get back ahead of the storm and slipped and fell? Zapped by lightning out on that open terrain? Was the rain heavy enough to cause a flash flood in some of those dry ravines?
 
  • #768
The same person also did work for Dylan in the past and had their backhoe on the farm at the time of Dylan's disappearance.0
FWIW, according to mom, the tipster is the owner of the bar/restaurant and also the one that walked back their claim of when they last saw Dylan.
FWIW He is also from Idaho, not far from Dylan’s grandparents. The family might know him for years, which could explain why they trusted him.

@indicolite22 I didn’t see the info about him owning the backhoe or working for Dylan. Are you sure it’s the same person? There are also 2 other people named as farm workers.
 
  • #769
Thanks, that helps. I had been picturing the two locations as directly connected by a road. But it looks like you have to zigzag through some fairly rugged terrain to get from the shed back to the house? Normally I'd say that five miles isn't much of a walk for somebody who is used to it, but rugged terrain plus storms coming on sounds like a bad combination. Now my brain is buzzing. Was he hurrying to get back ahead of the storm and slipped and fell? Zapped by lightning out on that open terrain? Was the rain heavy enough to cause a flash flood in some of those dry ravines?
His mother did say in one of the approved interviews that he would cut through the terrain, rather than walking on the road to get home from the shop. It’s hard to tell how rugged the terrain is in that area. Most of the footage I’ve seen it looks pretty flat.
 
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His mother did say in one of the approved interviews that he would cut through the terrain, rather than walking on the road to get home from the shop. It’s hard to tell how rugged the terrain is I that area. Most of the footage I’ve seen it looks pretty flat.

It doesn't look real hilly or anything so maybe rugged isn't the right word. I meant it looks like it has a lot of ridges and piles of rocks and what appear to be gorges or watercourses. Rough walking.

It looks like cutting through would save at least a mile.

I'm going to try to find something that shows the terrain more clearly...especially those ridges northwest of his trailer.

p.s. that looks like a pretty grim place to try to get a farm to produce anything.
 
  • #771
It doesn't look real hilly or anything so maybe rugged isn't the right word. I meant it looks like it has a lot of ridges and piles of rocks and what appear to be gorges or watercourses. Rough walking.

It looks like cutting through would save at least a mile.

I'm going to try to find something that shows the terrain more clearly...especially those ridges northwest of his trailer.

p.s. that looks like a pretty grim place to try to get a farm to produce anything.
Please let us know if you find a way to view the terrain. I’ve been trying to find a source.

Edit to add: Google Earth gives a better feel for the area. It looks like there are various paths/rough dirt roads cutting through the area.
 
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Weird question

I am curious about reports that there are lots of transients/squatters who live in the area. I also think it's been said that meth heads frequent the area too. I know nothing about that area of the country (Appalachian Americans here).

It seems to me it would be difficult to live there due to climate and terrain. I guess im wondering why the area would attract transients, squatters or meth users. Does anyone have input?
 
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Re: the hoax that LE checked out and didn't find anything.... Is it possible that DR really was being held/beaten, but moved before LE showed up? Or held in a different location such as someone maybe having multiple sheds, barns, garages, etc. and LE searched one but not others?

Moving the seed truck to a covered area.... Could he have hung around in the grain barn since a storm was rolling up, maybe hoping someone else would come by later that could give him a lift back to his camper? Him remaining at/near the grain barn all day might explain the boots nearby and last phone ping if something happened there. Was the seed truck at his camper early that morning when he talked to his grandmother? Or was the seed truck already by the grain barn and he just needed to move it inside? If it was already there, wouldn't he have driven his red truck to the grain barn, moved the seed truck inside, then driven his red truck back to his camper?

I don't feel like it's self harm or I think he would have already been located. Carrion birds might also have been an indication.

I haven't watched the videos yet, so I apologize if I am asking questions that have already been answered.
 
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There is a pond in Lucin. Does anyone know if that was checked?
Also there are 6,589 nearby mines. That's a little disconcerting.
 
  • #777
Weird question

I am curious about reports that there are lots of transients/squatters who live in the area. I also think it's been said that meth heads frequent the area too. I know nothing about that area of the country (Appalachian Americans here).

It seems to me it would be difficult to live there due to climate and terrain. I guess im wondering why the area would attract transients, squatters or meth users. Does anyone have input?
Substance abuse, and, specifically meth, is a major problem in rural areas throughout the US. There are lots of studies written about the problem. It is often multi-generational and has to do with poverty, isolation, boredom, low education levels, unemployment and limited access to mental healthcare. Generally meth is less expensive and more readily available than other drugs.

As for squatters and transients, the simple explanation is because they can. There are a lot of open lands that fall under the Bureau of Land Management and people are allowed to camp there for free. Also, the land is cheap, so it attracts people who want to live off-grid. Then there is the correlation between drug use and homelessness.
 
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I'm working on a timeline of facts that have come directly from Candice Cooley. I started tonight, will have it finished and posted tomorrow. It's quite a task but I think it's much better than the one I have using msm "facts" .
 
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Weird question

I am curious about reports that there are lots of transients/squatters who live in the area. I also think it's been said that meth heads frequent the area too. I know nothing about that area of the country (Appalachian Americans here).

It seems to me it would be difficult to live there due to climate and terrain. I guess im wondering why the area would attract transients, squatters or meth users. Does anyone have input?

I'm going to guess it is because they are away from prying eyes and law enforcement, and it is free. This is a huge issue across the US. Landowners and Park Rangers are running into serious problems with these groups. Many of them are anti government, Anti social, are criminals, and have warrants. Dylan's mom has said a few have been arrested on warrants unrelated to Dylan.
 
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Rounds’ family asked sheriff’s deputies to conduct a welfare check on May 30. Deputies found several suspicious circumstances, including a pair of Rounds’ boots that appeared to have blood on them, according to family members, no tire tracks in the dirt leading to where his pickup was found or mud on the tires, and his phone and wallet were missing.

On Wednesday, the Box Elder Sheriff’s Office issued an update on what it’s calling a “missing person criminal investigation.”

“This is an active law enforcement missing person/criminal investigation,” the sheriff’s office stated. “Box Elder County volunteer teams have logged over 300 hours searching, covering over 3,000 miles, not including the hours and miles traveled to and from the remote search areas. Box Elder County Sheriff’s Office detectives and deputies have also been searching around the clock, weekdays and weekends. So far, detectives have spent over 650 hours investigating this case.”
 
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