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There were 15-20 light green pills in the baggie. Carmen and Nancy left. On the way, Carmen texted Kouri and asked her what to do with the pills. Kouri told her to take them to the Midway house and put them in one of the sheds. Carmen didn't feel comfortable pulling them in a shed so she dug a hole in the fire pit, put them in the dirt and covered them up.


3:18 PM · Feb 26, 2026
 
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There were 15-20 light green pills in the baggie. Carmen and Nancy left. On the way, Carmen texted Kouri and asked her what to do with the pills. Kouri told her to take them to the Midway house and put them in one of the sheds. Carmen didn't feel comfortable pulling them in a shed so she dug a hole in the fire pit, put them in the dirt and covered them up.


3:18 PM · Feb 26, 2026

Details and a vivid story like that will go a long way with a jury that she is telling the truth.
 
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We now see a photo of the backyard of the home and the fire pit where Carmen put the pills. She clarifies there was not a fire burning at the time. Bloodworth moves to admit two letters. They are Community Service Letters. Carmen was late for group therapy sessions and the court ordered her to serve ten hours of community service. Carmen approached Kouri asking if she knew of anywhere she could get a letter saying she did community service. Kouri wrote two letters saying Carmen did community service at their ranch.

Carmen says she never did any community service on Kouri's ranch. She submitted the letters to the court and got in trouble. She ended up in jail, with more community service ordered. When asked why she did it, Carmen says she didn't have time to do her community service because she was busy picking up pills.

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Bloodworth asks Carmen if she thought she could get away with more drug distribution and fake letters. She replies, "Not really," but still tried. Bloodworth asks about her second drug deal with Robert Crozier. Carmen is wiping her eyes and nose. Bloodworth asks if she needs a minute. She says she is fine.
 
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Bloodworth asks Carmen if she met with her attorney to prepare for today. She has. She reviewed what she said in jail, some photos and data from cell phones. Bloodworth asks Carmen if she knew Kouri Richins. She did. She worked for Kouri's aunt cleaning houses. She also cleaned Kouri's home every other Friday. She worked for Kouri's aunt for nine years and got to know Kouri throughout the years.


2:50 PM · Feb 26, 2026
this witness is damaging to Kouri
 
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Carmen says she obtained $1000 from a home in Midway, Utah; left for her by Kouri Richins.

Carmen says she went to a Maverik gas station in Draper; purchased pills containing fentanyl and then brought them to this home/backyard in Midway and buried them.



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Kouri reached out to Carmen again and said her investor needed something stronger. Carmen responded that you can't just order stuff off the street - you get what you get. Kouri asked for "the Michael Jackson stuff." She wasn't sure what Kouri meant and had to Google it. On the third drug buy, Kouri put around $1,000 cash in the little house in Midway. Carmen picked it up.

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Carmen texted Robert. He wrote her back and she told Kouri that she could get the drugs. Nancy took her again and they met at the same Maverik. Carmen texted Robert on the way down Provo Canyon to Maverik. She was also texting Kouri and giving her updates. All the texts were deleted. Carmen ultimately ended up at Maverik. She gave Robert the money, he left for 20-25 minutes, came back, gave her the baggie of pills and then they went their separate ways.
 
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I hope Carmen can stay clean.
 
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The stare down from Kouri is scary
 
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The pills were a lighter blue this time. Carmen texted Kouri and said she was on her way home. Carmen gave Nancy a few of the pills and reached out to Kouri to ask what she wanted her to do with them. Kouri is staring at Carmen in the courtroom. Kouri said she would come and pick up the pills. Kouri drove to Carmen's house and picked up the pills.


3:33 PM · Feb 26, 2026


Bloodworth asks Carmen if she had ever purchased drugs from Robert before Eric died. She did not.

3:35 PM · Feb 26, 2026
 
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KR attempting to make her face appear incredulous and disbelieving of Carmen's testimony
 
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after ER's death KR told Carmen that ER died of a brain aneurism
 
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Carmen had never been to the Maverik in Draper other than the times to pick up the drugs. Carmen learned Eric had died a day or two after his death. She was with her friend Nick on their way to a urinalysis for drug court when she spoke with Kouri Richins on speaker phone. Nick could hear the conversation. Carmen said to Kouri, "Please tell me these pills were not for him." Kouri said, "No, they were not. Eric passed away from a brain aneurysm."


3:37 PM · Feb 26, 2026
 
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"Please tell me those pills were not for Eric"...

Kouri: "No, he passed away from a brain aneurism"

OMG
 
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After Eric died, Kouri asked Carmen if she still had the hook-up from her friend for drugs. Bloodworth asks to admit an exhibit showing a text exchange between Carmen and Kouri between March 6-7, 2022.


3:39 PM · Feb 26, 2026


Defense objects. Says the Cellebrite extraction containing the text messages has not been entered into evidence and Carmen can not testify to it. Judge calls for sidebar.


3:41 PM · Feb 26, 2026
 
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So Carmen suspected Kouri immediately!
 
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After Eric died, Kouri asked Carmen if she still had the hook-up from her friend for drugs. Bloodworth asks to admit an exhibit showing a text exchange between Carmen and Kouri between March 6-7, 2022.


3:39 PM · Feb 26, 2026
wonder who she had in mind as her next victim, maybe SIL Katie who as trustee of ER's trust was making her life difficult?
 
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wonder who she had in mind as her next victim, maybe SIL Katie who as trustee of ER's trust was making her life difficult?
Oh! Kouri could have been a LVD like serial killer
 

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