UT - Parenting influencer, Ruby Franke, and blogger/podcast partner Jodi Hildebrandt, arrested for Child Abuse, Aug 2023

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  • #261
I mean, how can a 3 year old search up p*rn? Assuming they have unrestricted access to a device, they can't even spell!
 
  • #262
You’re welcome. But now hearing the released 911 call it appears JH May actually have been home at the time the boy escaped?
 
  • #263
The more I listen, the more Jodi reminds me of Lori Vallow. It's scary. imo
yes, very scary. She seems to have hurt a lot of people over the years.
 
  • #264
I'm still not over the 911 call (emotional gut-punch), and now this "revelation" from Ruby in court? My head is spinning.
Something tells me both will do anything to CYA in court-- should make it difficult to keep up in the lies though so hopefully one of them opens the judicial door. This could mean opening the "door" to otherwise inadmissible evidence with misrepresentation.

Important to note that the daughter of Ruby had kept a journal/log of what has been happening within the household to keep track. Keep in mind, Franke has had a few run-in's with the law already regarding her children-- in September of 2022 police were called to the residence for a safety check. It will be hard for the defense to make all these calls/claims seem as if they were not an issue. I also hope prosecutors find the time to review everything Franke has claimed as I feel her serving the court will be resulting in perjury.
 
  • #265
Something tells me both will do anything to CYA in court-- should make it difficult to keep up in the lies though so hopefully one of them opens the judicial door. This could mean opening the "door" to otherwise inadmissible evidence with misrepresentation.
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The thing is, these women believe wholeheartedly that their twisted thoughts are correct. They are firm in their misguided thinking that THEY are the ones who are right and the rest of the world is "in distortion." They are CYA'ing, no doubt, but I think they believe this self-righteous crapola.

And if they don't really believe, they are so used to manipulating and using their made-up vocabulary that they can lie without tripping up. It's what the do. They are practiced and good at it.

Still fuming....

jmo
 
  • #266
Seeming to pin the blame for her behavior on her children, Franke went into horrific detail about how one of her six kids abused other children.

She claimed that one of the Franke kids began looking at p[redacted/censor]ography at just three-years old.

In one of the most shocking claims, Franke said said that her child had been sexually abusing a younger sibling for years, adding that eventually the two of them began to abuse other children.

She also claimed her two children played a 'patting' game with each other, but did not go into further detail.

Franke said that in May her child confessed to sexually abusing 20 people, including cousins and neighbors.

She provided no proof of her sickening allegations.

The court went eerily silent after Ruby made the disturbing claims.

The judge then said that her alleged abusive child 'will then need to be placed in a home with no other children.'

YouTuber mom Ruby Franke accuses her children of abuse

I knew it. lustful. dangerous. male. I truly hate these women for what they have force fed this poor kid. It will take him years of counseling to get past this. I wish the judge had asked little Ms. Ruby who was responsible for supervising a toddlers access to inappropriate sexually explicit images. This is total bull and it is evident to any right thinking person in the world. The fact that this witch would double down on her crimes and try to blame shift to the very child she was actively abusing is thoroughly disgusting.

Sad thing is, I think she's been so brainwashed and manipulated by Jodi she may actually believe the garbage that falls from her own mouth.

I am incensed.

ETA this post took me literally 20 minutes because I kept having to erase and reform sentences that would pass the censors. The language I want to use would get me a lifetime ban.



I. am. just. speechless. and shocked. and angry.
I feel sick. These horrible, horrible women!!
 
  • #267
I mean, how can a 3 year old search up p*rn? Assuming they have unrestricted access to a device, they can't even spell!
Not by themselves, but viewing it, when an older sibling found it, is possible. Most of what she said sounds impossible, but there might be a shred of truth in there somewhere. The Duggar’s had problems with one of their sons. There is NO EXCUSE for how she has responded to any possible problems, that any of her kids might have had, no matter how bad those problems could have been. Jodi may have been a misguided attempt to find help for her kids but it has backfired tremendously on her.
 
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The thing is, these women believe wholeheartedly that their twisted thoughts are correct. They are firm in their misguided thinking that THEY are the ones who are right and the rest of the world is "in distortion." They are CYA'ing, no doubt, but I think they believe this self-righteous crapola.

And if they don't really believe, they are so used to manipulating and using their made-up vocabulary that they can lie without tripping up. It's what the do. They are practiced and good at it.

Still fuming....

jmo

100%
I think Lori Vallow also believes in Chad still today and is too heavily invested in her beliefs to ever face reality. Lori Vallow should still be accountable for her acts. So should these two.

TBH I fear the influence of like-minded believers and followers in this case more than Vallow’s. No one is ready to defend child murders. Many will defend parental rights at the expense of children’s well-being, especially when a child is accused of criminal-like behavior and may be so traumatized as to admit to the behavior regardless of reality.
 
  • #269
Not by themselves, but viewing it, when an older sibling found it, is possible. Most of what she said sounds impossible, but there might be a shred of truth in there somewhere. The Duggar’s had problems with one of their sons. There is NO EXCUSE for how she has responded to any possible problems, that any of her kids might have had, no matter how bad those problems could have been. Jodi may have been a misguided attempt to find help for her kids but it has backfired tremendously on her.
Exactly - no matter what happened, the response is NOT to duct tape a child and withhold food. She is trying to place blame on a kid for the way adults mistreated him.

Manipulating the narrative. I am resisting falling for it. The focus is on HER and JODI's actions.

FWIW, I don't think they were making misguided attempts to help, but rather finding problems to punish - and if the problems didn't exist, they made them up. imo

jmo
 
  • #270
Exactly - no matter what happened, the response is NOT to duct tape a child and withhold food. She is trying to place blame on a kid for the way adults mistreated him.

Manipulating the narrative. I am resisting falling for it. The focus is on HER and JODI's actions.

FWIW, I don't think they were making misguided attempts to help, but rather finding problems to punish - and if the problem didn't exist, they made them up. imo

jmo
Right, like what did she consider p-rn?
I don't believe what Ruby is saying at all, but if she did catch a 3-year-old watching what she calls p-rn, then I question what that graphic material is. It could be the afternoon soap operas for all we know.
 
  • #271
Right, like what did she consider p-rn?
I don't believe what Ruby is saying at all, but if she did catch a 3-year-old watching what she calls p-rn, then I question what that graphic material is. It could be the afternoon soap operas for all we know.
I don't even care. What I care about is these women abused the kids.

These two women see evil and sin in absolutely everything, including attraction to your own spouse and they are ready to save the world through abuse. They are warped and wacked, and whatever the kid did wasn't the crime being charged - the two adult women are charged with crimes against children.

Ugh, I'm so mad at what she did in court today and switched the narrative to the boy. :( He believes he deserved what happened to him and Ruby wants the rest of us to believe that too.

jmo
 
  • #272
Law & Order will be covering the case at 3:30pm eastern time today (Friday):

 
  • #273
to be clear, Ruby Franke's idea of "CORN" [sub the first letter with P] isn't what most of us might consider to be such. It is made a little more clear with some context:

Ruby shared a complete and utter on camera meltdown which can ironically be watched on tiktok now that her and her youtube account has been banned. Her fit was about a tiktok dance that students were going to participate it at her teen daughter's school. They were going to do a flash mob at school. This event was school sanctioned and the school had approved the dance, the songs involved, etc. When Ruby found out she lost her poo. She called it hard core corn (P).
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Part 2 of the fiasco followed shortly after the first intro video and... yikes. The video begins with Ruby storming out of the school, shaking and red-faced. In the car she launches into 12+ minute all-out meltdown - screaming, sobbing, and verbally attacking the school officials she spoke with. During the meeting, the principal calmly explained that she, the principal, had approved the songs that the PE teacher chose. All of the songs chosen are commonly used songs that appear frequently in all kinds of different media. Ruby then attacked her for using what's "popular" instead of using songs that are "in truth" - whatever that is suppose to mean. Again, the principal calmly explained that just because Ruby had different morals, didn't mean she had to ruin the experience for all the other children and the 30+ parents who approved of the songs and were excited for their children's chance to perform.
8 Passengers: YouTube Mom, Ruby Franke, Has 'Karen' Meltdown Over TikTok dances
 
  • #274
After listening to Jodi's niece, Adam Steed and Ruby's cousin, there is zero chance these allegations about her son are true. Less than zero.
 
  • #275
I don't even care. What I care about is these women abused the kids.

These two women see evil and sin in absolutely everything, including attraction to your own spouse and they are ready to save the world through abuse. They are warped and wacked, and whatever the kid did wasn't the crime being charged - the two adult women are charged with crimes against children.

Ugh, I'm so mad at what she did in court today and switched the narrative to the boy. :( He believes he deserved what happened to him and Ruby wants the rest of us to believe that too.

jmo
Oh I'm totally with you.
to be clear, Ruby Franke's idea of "CORN" [sub the first letter with P] isn't what most of us might consider to be such. It is made a little more clear with some context:

Ruby shared a complete and utter on camera meltdown which can ironically be watched on tiktok now that her and her youtube account has been banned. Her fit was about a tiktok dance that students were going to participate it at her teen daughter's school. They were going to do a flash mob at school. This event was school sanctioned and the school had approved the dance, the songs involved, etc. When Ruby found out she lost her poo. She called it hard core corn (P).
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Part 2 of the fiasco followed shortly after the first intro video and... yikes. The video begins with Ruby storming out of the school, shaking and red-faced. In the car she launches into 12+ minute all-out meltdown - screaming, sobbing, and verbally attacking the school officials she spoke with. During the meeting, the principal calmly explained that she, the principal, had approved the songs that the PE teacher chose. All of the songs chosen are commonly used songs that appear frequently in all kinds of different media. Ruby then attacked her for using what's "popular" instead of using songs that are "in truth" - whatever that is suppose to mean. Again, the principal calmly explained that just because Ruby had different morals, didn't mean she had to ruin the experience for all the other children and the 30+ parents who approved of the songs and were excited for their children's chance to perform.
8 Passengers: YouTube Mom, Ruby Franke, Has 'Karen' Meltdown Over TikTok dances
That's exactly what I was thinking she would consider hard pore corn. Not the actual thing.
 
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  • #277
audio feedback. looks like lots of people watching through the webex and nobody has muted uggg

ETA I am looking at a screenfull of viewers from the public and see and hear nothing of the hearing itself :(
 
  • #278
After listening to Jodi's niece, Adam Steed and Ruby's cousin, there is zero chance these allegations about her son are true. Less than zero.
Agreed.

These interviews were all done prior to today’s revelations. The interviews lay out a consistent pattern of abuse, of victims being blamed for “thought crimes,” and of punishments for “sins” that the victim could not have committed.

They formed a cult and there are other members out there.
 
  • #279
audio feedback. looks like lots of people watching through the webex and nobody has muted uggg

ETA I am looking at a screenfull of viewers from the public and see and hear nothing of the hearing itself :(
It's nuts!

jmo
 
  • #280

The social media star did not provide any evidence of her disturbing claims, per the Daily Mail.

However, at one point during the hearing, an attorney in the courtroom claiming to represent one of the mothers of a molestation victim asked to be heard.

The judge reportedly denied that attorney’s request, stating that those claims could be heard at a later time, but noted that the alleged abusive child would need to “be placed in a home with no other children.”

This explains why the judge made the decision to separate the kids.
 
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