UT - Sierra Newbold, 6, abducted & murdered, West Jordan, 26 June 2012 *Arrest*

[SmoothOperator]

Above BBM..

Yea, well tell that to Jessica Lunsfords family,

Jessica was taken by a neighbour who walked in through an unlocked front door - not a stranger. Further, he was a RSO <modsnip>

Marc Klaas' family whose daughter, Polly was also stolen from her bedroom, raped and killed, or

A genuine stranger abduction

the Smart family...

Elizabeth was taken by a handyman employed by the Smarts - not a stranger.

all of these family's were responsible, involved parents/grandparents who were doing the very best to protectively and responsibly raise their young girls..

No one said they weren't.

yet monsters still plotted, schemed and planned around those families to get to what they wanted...their innocent young children.. they went to great lengths to get what they'd obsessed on and become focused on.. with both Richard Davis and David Mitchell climbing up to second floor bedrooms to break into the girls bedrooms to get what they wanted.. both bedrooms had more than just the victim in them...Polly had several girlfriends in her bedroom when Davis entered and took Polly.. Eliazabeth was actually asleep alongside her sister who witnessed Mitchell taking Elizabeth out of the bedroom window and disappearing into the night..

These facts are not in dispute

These three examples are just the ones off the top of my head,

Only one example of a true stranger kidnapping, the others were known to the families and/or RSOs

but sadly there are so many who are the like in that there are active, involved, caring family members that were responsibly providing and Caring for these girls.. yet predators still found there way around that obstacle to seek the prey that they were so desperately hunting..

My point is simple.. there are many families who are doing "everything they're supposed to be doing" and their child can still be stolen right from under their noses...sadly I believe this case is going to be another sad, tragic example of that.
jmo.

Absolutely, it happens. We wouldn't be posting here if it didn't...however, my original point is that stranger abductions are very rare. You have inadvertently supported this by posting 2 abductions who you believe were stranger abductions, but are not.

I am in NO WAY insinuating that any of these families pain is something to be dismissed or taken lightly...just pointing out that it is statistically unlikely to happen in this way, and with all "odds", there are things you can do to weigh them in your favor. Like locking front doors, for example.

You misunderstand ..There is zero sarcasm of what I speak, zero..
John Couey was a stranger(he was NOT a neighbor, he was an RSO illegally staying at his sister's trailer)..Richard Davis a complete stranger, argue if you'd like about Elizabeth "knowing" David Mitchell, its irrelevant to my point..
My point remains:

My point is simple.. there are many families who are doing "everything they're supposed to be doing" and their child can still be stolen right from under their noses...sadly I believe this case is going to be another sad, tragic example of that. jmo.

 

[SyraKelly]

Location of abduction

Great job on all the photos Gallegos & welcome!!!

 

[Gallegos]

Does Sierra's family have a dog?

no dog reported.

those who do not have dogs should rethink the importance of a dog.
they keep you company
always forgive you
never give up on you
oh and guard the darkness with its life from monsters creeping through your back door to rape and murder your children.
sure you gotta feed em and teach em not to crap on the rug. is that price to high to pay?

either big enough to rip an arm off or small enough to bark bloody murder every time the wind blows. at any size, your biggest security asset is your dog. your guns are useless while you sleep. he can forget your security system when he cuts your phone line and flips off your power breaker, but he can't forget your dog... even if he did

 

[cluciano63]

I hope LE is able to make some statements soon that point to a suspect. This cannot turn into another one of those cases where everyone is suspect, no one is cleared, etc....just too many of those already. When LE says those things, it makes an unbearable situation that much worse for an innocent family.

 

[Shelby2]

We all know the statistics, we all know a child is much more likely to be hurt by a family member than a stranger. It doesn't really matter exactly what the statistics are. As I posted before, it is strange that more than a few young girls were taken from their bedrooms and murdered in that area of the country. Just something to think about, seems odd to me.

I wonder if LE has found the crime scene?

 

[SapphireSteel]

no dog reported.

those who do not have dogs should rethink the importance of a dog.
they keep you company
always forgive you
never give up on you
oh and guard the darkness with its life from monsters creeping through your back door to rape and murder your children.
sure you gotta feed em and teach em not to crap on the rug. is that price to high to pay?

either big enough to rip an arm off or small enough to bark bloody murder every time the wind blows. at any size, your biggest security asset is your dog. your guns are useless while you sleep. he can forget your security system when he cuts your phone line and flips off your power breaker, but he can't forget your dog... even if he did

Isabel's family had dogs, and allegedly, not one of them made a sound.

Yeah, right.:banghead:

 

[Shelby2]

Isabel's family had dogs, and allegedly, not one of them made a sound.

Yeah, right.:banghead:

Could be the dogs were quiet because there were no strangers around that night, or they were in a deep sleep far from Isabel's room. Are we sure the dogs slept inside at night?

 

[SapphireSteel]

Could be the dogs were quiet because there were no strangers around that night, or they were in a deep sleep far from Isabel's room. Are we sure the dogs slept inside at night?

The allegation is that an abductor got into the home (which has security like Fort Knox) and took Isa out of a window.

Her father was asleep in the next room and heard nothing.

Do you think the family dogs would sleep through an intruder doing this? I don't...especially as they are little, yappy dogs.

Even my cat would wake up and growl (it's true, she does...it's hysterical, I call her catdog).

I have no clue if Sierra's family had dogs or not?

 

[Gallegos]

Sierra = no dogs

 

[BrownRice]

Sierra = no dogs

Thanks! And awesome job with the map.

 

[Swamp Fox Trot]

Nice map Gallegos, not sure why you think the perp must have fled to the southeast though?

 

[Swamp Fox Trot]

Sierra's case reminds me of a sickening assault in a similar neighborhood ten years ago a couple miles to the east: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/932673/Sickler-charged-in-2-kidnappings-assaults.html

 

[Shelby2]

The allegation is that an abductor got into the home (which has security like Fort Knox) and took Isa out of a window.

Her father was asleep in the next room and heard nothing.

Do you think the family dogs would sleep through an intruder doing this? I don't...especially as they are little, yappy dogs.

Even my cat would wake up and growl (it's true, she does...it's hysterical, I call her catdog).

I have no clue if Sierra's family had dogs or not?

Right, which is why I said unless there WAS no stranger. I DO find it strange that if there was an intruder the dogs would sleep through it. I have had dogs all my life and they hear everything. But, it has happened before-I forget the case but the family had two dogs that his under the kitchen table and didn't make a sound. The perp later bragged about it. Maybe someone can remind me of that case?

 

[Gallegos]

Nice map Gallegos, not sure why you think the perp must have fled to the southeast though?

Those are just possible flee direction suggestions for those who are not familiar with the area, north east and south are exits from the area that the perp could likely use to not be seen being they are farm land and very few houses, not likely north because he would be walkin with the flow of the canal and subsequently same direction as the body. East and south is also the direction of the rest of salt lake city as opposed west which goes to desert. Assuming the perp didn't just return to his home/neighboring victim house.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Right, which is why I said unless there WAS no stranger. I DO find it strange that if there was an intruder the dogs would sleep through it. I have had dogs all my life and they hear everything. But, it has happened before-I forget the case but the family had two dogs that his under the kitchen table and didn't make a sound. The perp later bragged about it. Maybe someone can remind me of that case?

That was Joesph Duncan, Shelby, when he invaded the Greone home.

One was a full grown PitBull and the other dog was a Pit-Mix.

 

[Reannan]

Just getting to log in today.... no news in this case???!!!! :banghead: What about the surveillance video that LE was reviewing? If they don't recognize what they see on there, they should be sharing it with the public by now for assistance.

 

[Gallegos]

The surveillance footage is actually a neighbors camera, they did say had images, but images led them to no identified suspect, hopefully it has something important is the reason for not sharing. One other thing not touched on was her parents mentioned a new cell phone Sierra had gotten, whether this was recovered or had any info on it has not been disclosed either.

 

[cluciano63]

If the video is not helpful...is this going to be another one of "those" cases, where nothing ever happens?? Please, not.

 

[Shelby2]

That was Joesph Duncan, Shelby, when he invaded the Greone home.

One was a full grown PitBull and the other dog was a Pit-Mix.

Thank you!

 

[cocomod]

The video surveillance was from Sierra's home and there are things on the video of interest. They have not yet said that there wasn't an image of the assailant.

Authorities are examining surveillance video taken from the home of a 6-year-old Utah girl who police say was sexually assaulted and murdered before being dumped in a nearby canal.

West Jordan Police Sgt. Drew Sanders told FoxNews.com that security footage taken from the home of Sierra Newbold "has images" of interest that authorities are analyzing, though he did not elaborate.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/2...ce-tape-for-clues-in-murder-sexual-assault-6/