UT UT - Spc. Joseph Michael Bushling, 26, Dugway, 8 May 2011

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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51817520-78/bushling-dugway-vehicle-kevin.html.csp

That's probably posted above but I wanted to snip out of it quickly so I just reposted it, my apologies.

The news also softens Bushling's concern his son met with foul play. The Bushling'sonly other son died a year ago.
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Bless this family :(

The car belongs to another soldier at Dugway who is away on a temporary assignment, Bushling said. Joseph had agreed to take care of the car while the owner was away. Bushling and Dugway both said Friday the owner of the car has since reported it stolen, but indications are the report was made to begin an insurance claim.
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Thought that the above should be noted. Not sure what to make of it just yet. Just wanted to make sure the info is on this thread for consideration.
 
Kat said:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51817520-78/bushling-dugway-vehicle-kevin.html.csp

That's probably posted above but I wanted to snip out of it quickly so I just reposted it, my apologies.
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Good idea. Thanks.
The suicide of his brother can't be dismissed, especially since it's been "almost a year".

Kat said:
The car belongs to another soldier at Dugway who is away on a temporary assignment, Bushling said. Joseph had agreed to take care of the car while the owner was away. Bushling and Dugway both said Friday the owner of the car has since reported it stolen, but indications are the report was made to begin an insurance claim.
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Thought that the above should be noted. Not sure what to make of it just yet. Just wanted to make sure the info is on this thread for consideration.
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[BBM]

A couple of things come to mind. What do you think?

1-The car was reported stolen, so that LE would look for it.
2-Some kind of insurance scam was going on.
 
laytonian said:
Good idea. Thanks.
The suicide of his brother can't be dismissed, especially since it's been "almost a year".



[BBM]

A couple of things come to mind. What do you think?

1-The car was reported stolen, so that LE would look for it.
2-Some kind of insurance scam was going on.
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I think

a) that was the only way the fellow could get reimbursement for the car if he thought it would never be found again. I doubt he expected it to be driven to the middle of the desert when he asked someone to look after it and now he has no car...

or,

b) it was a plan both had together. my first inclination is still a though.
 
sophieness said:
second best! people really ruin their lives by going AWOL. it is much harder to get a job if they decide to give you a dishonorable discharge, it can stick with you for a long time. not to mention alienating his loved ones and manipulating everyone to spending so much time and money....first best is he is lost and nearby and they find him alive today or tomorrow?? I want to believe the best of people so that is my hope.
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I worked with the military for many years (and in a military squadron for four years). We had military go "AWOL" (which really meant "unaccounted for")....and depending on their record and how long they were gone, a few would just get a slap on the hand and written up for "failure to request leave".

But a week? Without a good explanation like "I got lost out in the desert", I don't think this will be treated lightly.

Hopefully, our wet spring means there's water out there.
 
laytonian said:
I worked with the military for many years (and in a military squadron for four years). We had military go "AWOL" (which really meant "unaccounted for")....and depending on their record and how long they were gone, a few would just get a slap on the hand and written up for "failure to request leave".

But a week? Without a good explanation like "I got lost out in the desert", I don't think this will be treated lightly.

Hopefully, our wet spring means there's water out there.
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oh no, it certainly wouldn't be. not when they had to search an area the size of rhode island by air and land. If he did it on purpose I think he would get jail time and a dishonorable discharge.

I looked at the weather for the previous week for dugway...no freezing temps (lows in the forties)...some rain...nothing above 80...very encouraging.
 
I'm also wondering who reported him missing...his COC, his family??
My husband had a soldier that went AWOL. he failed a surprise drug test and went on the run. He stole a friends car and took off. did not contact his girl friend,mom,friends no one. Even though everyone knew he was AWOL but couldn't find him they were out looking for him. NCOs called hotels around the area called hotel from his last base.
There was also a soldier who became lost out at the jump zone.(he was alone..sometimes when no flights are scheduled people will go out there and "mud") he called his friend and told him where he was (this was at Bragg) or thought he was. once word got out that he was missing other soldier (some who didn't even know him) were out there searching the jump zone.
It just doesn't sound like any MPs,his NCOs his fellow brothers and sister are doing anything...
anyway i really hope this has a good ending
 
There ARE other soldiers searching for him and his family was planning on coming to Utah.

If you follow his personal facebook page... you will see people posting. Including a fellow soldier who's truck has broken down... after searching for him for 5 days.

His Mom also just posted that she is waiting for a phone call from him. :waitasec:

Maybe that is a good sign?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1584832832&sk=wall


laytonian said:
Good idea. Thanks.
The suicide of his brother can't be dismissed, especially since it's been "almost a year".
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It hasn't been "almost a year".... it's been "over a year."

14 months tomorrow, to be exact.

March 16, 2010

They were almost exactly 4 years apart. Joe was born June 3, 1984 and Jeremy was born July 19, 1988.


Obituaries

Jeremy M. Bushling, 21, of Russellville, AR, died Tuesday, March 16, 2010 in Russellville, AR.

Survivors include his parents, K & L Bushling, Russellville; brother, Joseph Bushling, Dugway, UT...

http://www.meaningfulfunerals.net/f...d=10614&s_id=1B8506F0DA2BD50F47CD7B9B0A69A0DF

http://www.tributes.com/show/Jeremy-Bushling-88092348


The family said they never knew why Jeremy took his own life... there were some comments that time he spent incarcerated played a role. He did have an arrest for burglary 18 months before his death, so that is a viable theory.

It would actually be encouraging if Jeremy had a traumatic situation that triggered his suicide... as far as it not being solely a genetic depression type of situation which might affect Joe.

Of course Jeremy's suicide then translates to a traumatic situation for Joe... but still.

http://media.iadsnetwork.com/contentitempdf/pdfs/13000/13553.pdf


Death Record

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Sea...ris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=
 
It was on Channel 5 news at 5:30pm after being on Channel 4 or 13 at 5pm.


The car was in an area that made it difficult to see.

Using dogs they continued searching for Joe after they found the car.


The very emotional spokeswoman says...

Everyday at Dugway Proving Ground we try to save soldier's lives... and we are doing that again in a different way. We will continue doing everything we can...

http://www.ksl.com/

The video should be up there later... it's nice to see someone other than a fellow soldier get passionate and emotional about this missing young man! She certainly seems to believe he is lost in the desert and not chilling in a comfortable hotel somewhere...
 
:praying: that he's found and he's safe and can return back home quickly.
 
The phone call that he made produced the search response. Wouldn't this just make things worse for him if he had really just left the base to have some (extended ) fun ? doesn't quite add up ? Hope he's okay....

JMO
 
This is the new video from the news 90 minutes ago:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=15552901

The article has not been updated, but the video has.


"Now that they have a place to start, (searchers) can circle out from there," Kevin Bushling told the Deseret News. "I just got a call from the (Dugway) chaplain saying he personally saw 15 to 20 military vehicles going out this morning (on the search)."

http://www.mysanantonio.com/default...ier-from-Utah-found-1380722.php#ixzz1MTM36bO6

It is getting a lot more coverage now that they found the car... now there is "mystery" to it.
 
A Tooele County search-and-rescue team member found the car in a deep ravine while on a personal trip with his father near Fish Springs, said Tooele County Emergency Management spokesman Wade Mathews.

Tooele County Search and Rescue, Dugway Proving Ground's commander, military vehicles and several search dogs searched the area Sunday to no avail.

Mathews said searchers were out until at least dark Sunday and anticipated resuming the search Monday morning.

Bushling called a friend on his cell phone on the evening of May 8 to report car trouble. A search began but the black 2001 Mitsubishi Lancer was the first physical evidence to be found.

Mathews said crews pulled the car from the ravine and hauled it back to Dugway.

Dugway spokeswoman Paula Thomas said there were no clues in the car that might explain Bushling's whereabouts.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705372676/Car-found-but-Dugway-soldier-remains-missing.html


Tooele County Search and Rescue and Dugway Proving Ground's commander and 15 to 20 military vehicles were part of a search party headed south Sunday morning after the car a missing soldier was driving was spotted miles from the Dugway boundary Saturday evening, according to Kevin Bushling, the missing soldier's father.

Spec. Joseph Bushling has been missing for one week.

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/157427/1/Father-of-Missing-Soldier-in-Utah-Fears-Foul-Play
 
MsFacetious said:
The discovery of the body is not related to the ongoing search for a Dugway Proving Ground soldier who went missing in Tooele County on May 8, said Wade Mathews, Tooele County Emergency Management spokesman.
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True -- and here's why:

"The partial remains of a body were found in Tooele County Sunday but officials say it is not the missing soldier based at Dugway.
A rancher out in the benches near the South Rim subdivision just outside of Stockton located the body and called authorities around 4 p.m."

KUTV News

Stockton is north of Dugway - a small town
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Anyone closely following the Powell case, might want to be "ears up" on this one. It's practically ground zero.
 
According to Joe's mother, they have also found his hat away from the car. (She elaborates on her own facebook.)

She also reported them finding the car 4 hours before the media... and a hat probably isn't that big of a deal.

Especially with the Tooele body found in the "much more logical than where Josh Powell says he went" territory.

I don't think finding his hat is a good thing, personally... but I guess it could be leaving an intentional trail to mislead them... I hope.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1584832832&sk=wall
 
Maybe he ditched the car because he cared enough about the soldier who owned it that he didn't want to steal it. By ditching the car, it will be harder to file vehicle theft charges against him in addition to anything else that may come of being AWOL.

He might have guessed that the car might or could have been reported as stolen at some point and that if he encountered LE, he would have more been easily be apprehended in a stolen car vs. being discovered to be AWOL from military.

Also, by ditching the car, it makes him harder to find. It is likely he would have known that people would be looking for the car. Ditching the car would also support his claim of running out of gas and attempting to walk back.

Ditch the car and it helps obscure his trail along with complicating attempts to apprehend him. If he had someone assist by picking him up along that stretch of road or if he just start hitch hiking, he'd be much harder to locate.

And, with the death of his brother, has the possibility of "survivor's guilt" been factored in as a reason to go AWOL?
 
he could have ditched it in a place that didn't possibly put his life at risk? somewhere where it would be easier to meet up with him? that spot, doesn't make sense to me. I would think survivor's guilt might increase risk for suicide, but to live and run away and leave his family to worry while jeopardizing his future? that would just increase the guilt, I would think. why sign up for five more years? if he hated the military he had the perfect opportunity to get out.
 
I don't think he was going AWOL.
I don't know what he was doing on a drive at night in the desert.

But, he signed up for 5 more years, he was going to be a nurse,
he seemed to have a lot going for him.

JMO:
And if he planned to hurt himself, perhaps because of a romantic breakup, there are easier ways than a long drive into a desert.

I think something went wrong.
Was he drinking of using some kind of illegal drug?
Did he get confused?
I don't know.

I just hope he is found soon.
 
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