UT UT- STILL MISSING 5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley , Logan, 25 May 2019 (UNCLE ARRESTED) #2

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  • #821
Can someone tell me if he is walking northbound or southbound on the Cafe video?
Northbound, which is away from the direction of the home.
 
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  • #823
For some reason I always thought the river. Are they searching water today? I know they did yesterday.
I'm not sure what they are doing with the river today but it's running so high and fast, imo they would need sonar equipment and to dredge it.
 
  • #824
For some reason I always thought the river. Are they searching water today? I know they did yesterday.

I thought they were searching water at the golf course and park in central Logan today
 
  • #825
Here is a video of AW walking past a business around 6:30 am Saturday morning. Notice how wet the bottoms of his pants are. Also appears very cold, as if he had been outside for some time. This is a public video from a business owner being shared by the police, and also by the business owner below.
Joe Egbert

He definitely appears to be cold. Can't see clear enough to see wet pants but does look a bit darker when I enlarge the video.
 
  • #826
Hmm sunrise appears to be around 5:57am in Logan UT - so if he is walking around at 6.46am just 2 blocks away - if he left while dark - that gives him a few hours to leave under the cover of darkness - IMO
 
  • #827
JBS beef plant is near the sighting at the Hymer Short stop. ugh.

Hmmm, he lists JBS Beef as his employer on his Facebook profile.
 
  • #828
Hmmm, he lists JBS Beef as his employer on his Facebook profile.
oh dear.... I think those types of plants have a "blood lake". I wonder if they tested his pants? Surely they must have?
 
  • #829
  • Police in Logan, Utah continued the search for Elizabeth Shelley on Tuesday
  • Elizabeth was discovered missing from her home around 10am on Saturday
  • Logan City Police said they have arrested the girl's uncle, Alexander Whipple, 21
  • The girl's parents told police that Whipple had been at their home Friday night
  • Whipple had some of the girl's clothing in his possession when he was arrested
  • Cops say forensic evidence links Whipple to both the missing girl and the home
  • He was jailed on a probation violation and police say he lied in interrogation
  • Logan police Capt Tyson Budge: 'At this point, we believe she's been harmed'
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Police have also been provided with surveillance footage from near the family's home that may show Whipple.

The video, taken at 6:46am on Saturday about two blocks from the home, shows a man in a grey hoodie walking alone. His pants appear wet or muddy from the knees down. [bbm]

Desperate search continues for missing five-year-old Elizabeth Shelley in Logan, Utah | Daily Mail Online
 
  • #830
Yeah. He looks like he's having a psychotic episode. Could just be withdrawal, I suppose.

IMO he has the same dark soulless eyes as we’ve seen with so many perpetrators in these cases.
My skin crawled just from his picture, I can only imagine the reaction I would have seeing him in person.
 
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He stopped showing up for work about 4 months ago
He may have enough knowledge as to where to hide a body... IMO
 
  • #833
He stopped showing up for work about 4 months ago
that's is correct, sometime after he stop showing up for work he was couch hoping. Moo
 
  • #834
I think our justice system has it wrong, Alexander Whipple should be charged with Capital murder, rape of a child. And the burden of proof that he did NOT commit those acts should be on him. He would have to bring forth the evidence that he did not murder a child or rape a child.

It would be easy, where is Elizabeth? Prove you didn't do these things..

Justice system in the world according to Mickey!
 
  • #835
oh dear.... I think those types of plants have a "blood lake". I wonder if they tested his pants? Surely they must have?

The JBS Meat plant is in Hymer, about 8 miles away. That would be a long way to walk carry a 40 pound body, and he would have been doing this in daylight, which appears to be documented by the Cafe video at 6:45 am in west Logan. I think there is good reason LE is centering it’s search for Lizzie in Logan, but asking everyone to look out for other evidence that may be out there all along his route
 
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  • #836
I think our justice system has it wrong, Alexander Whipple should be charged with Capital murder, rape of a child. And the burden of proof that he did NOT commit those acts should be on him. He would have to bring forth the evidence that he did not murder a child or rape a child.

It would be easy, where is Elizabeth? Prove you didn't do these things..

Justice system in the world according to Mickey!
That would be incredibly dangerous. We don’t get to pick and chose who gets due process, which is the way it should be.

This guy will face justice here, it’s just a matter of time.

She will be found.
 
  • #837
I think our justice system has it wrong, Alexander Whipple should be charged with Capital murder, rape of a child. And the burden of proof that he did NOT commit those acts should be on him. He would have to bring forth the evidence that he did not murder a child or rape a child.

It would be easy, where is Elizabeth? Prove you didn't do these things..

Justice system in the world according to Mickey!
This should NEVER be how it works, despite how emotional we find these cases.
 
  • #838
I think our justice system has it wrong, Alexander Whipple should be charged with Capital murder, rape of a child. And the burden of proof that he did NOT commit those acts should be on him. He would have to bring forth the evidence that he did not murder a child or rape a child.

It would be easy, where is Elizabeth? Prove you didn't do these things..

Justice system in the world according to Mickey!

As bad as we agonize for Lizzy and all the other innocent babies....still....sorry, that is not the kind of world I would want to live in.
 
  • #839
That would be incredibly dangerous. We don’t get to pick and chose who gets due process, which is the way it should be.

This guy will face justice here, it’s just a matter of time.

She will be found.

More and more, criminals are manipulating the criminal justice system. This case is similar to Maleah in Texas, no body, no confession, the state has to prove everything, when the criminal has destroyed crucial evidence.

In some situations, where the criminal is non cooperative with LEO, the system should be able to make the highest charges, and burden of proof on criminal that those charges are incorrect.

Our system of justice no longer is effective in so many cases like this.
 
  • #840
From what people in the neighborhood said that I talked to, trash day was Monday.
Those are both regular trash and recyclable trash barrels at the roadside in those pictures. Do they have pick up on Saturday mornings in Logan? Not that I am suggesting that she is in one of those two barrels but were there a lot more out on the curb up and down that road?
 
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