UT UT- STILL MISSING 5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley , Logan, 25 May 2019 (UNCLE ARRESTED)

[SkipperKey3]

I’ve been following along but haven’t read everything yet. I am heartbroken over this story. As unlikely as it is, I pray this sweet little girl is found safe.

If this isn’t allowed, Mods please delete. But I’m wondering if there is any chance he could have traded her for a drug debt or sold her into trafficking? He went to that home with a purpose that night.

I agree, and I think everybody here agrees, that the best outcome would for her to somehow be found safe, as unlikely as that seems at the moment.

 

[Trudie]

If you had serious reservations about someone, even a family member. I don't think you are going to allow them to stay the night at your house. You offer them a ride or a hotel room.

I think based on his arrest history his family knew he was headed down the wrong road. I don’t think his sister believed he would harm her child. I also think if he arrived around 2am she was tired & only wanted to go to bed. Jmo

 

[J@cknsal1y]

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[Herat]

That's what I thought too. But it seems that they searched very long and hard, focusing on the mile surrounding the home. And nothing yet.

If you have a 30-40 pound body on your hands and other evidence, but y0u don't have a vehicle, you really don't have a lot of options. It's not like he could call Uber or Lyft, or take a suitcase on a bus, or even mail a 30 # package from UPS.

I really think he had to discard her body very close to the scene of the crime and any other evidence after that. I think they need to re-think this and go back over that 1mile radius - OK make it 2 or 3 miles. I just don't think he had a way to take her to Hyrum.

Did I see something way upstream in the posts that he was observed without his backpack? That would at least pin the farthest possible disposal site, for me

 

[Herat]

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Is there anything that falls within WS guidelines that can be posted for those of us who don't do FB?

 

[DissociativeFugue]

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Please let this sweet child come home safe ... This case is terrifying I can only hope for some sense of peace for her loved ones in this search for their precious little girl

 

[MassGuy]

If you have a 30-40 pound body on your hands and other evidence, but y0u don't have a vehicle, you really don't have a lot of options. It's not like he could call Uber or Lyft, or take a suitcase on a bus, or even mail a 30 # package from UPS.

I really think he had to discard her body very close to the scene of the crime and any other evidence after that. I think they need to re-think this and go back over that 1mile radius - OK make it 2 or 3 miles. I just don't think he had a way to take her to Hyrum.

Did I see something way upstream in the posts that he was observed without his backpack? That would at least pin the farthest possible disposal site, for me

I’m sure they’ve done the math here, and they have a general idea where she is most likely to be.

She can’t be all that far from her house, but it’s still a time consuming effort.

 

[wary]

If you have a 30-40 pound body on your hands and other evidence, but y0u don't have a vehicle, you really don't have a lot of options. It's not like he could call Uber or Lyft, or take a suitcase on a bus, or even mail a 30 # package from UPS.

I really think he had to discard her body very close to the scene of the crime and any other evidence after that. I think they need to re-think this and go back over that 1mile radius - OK make it 2 or 3 miles. I just don't think he had a way to take her to Hyrum.

Did I see something way upstream in the posts that he was observed without his backpack? That would at least pin the farthest possible disposal site, for me

Did anyone, or any cameras see him and Elizabeth together?

 

[SuperTmo]

I agree, and I think everybody here agrees, that the best outcome would for her to somehow be found safe, as unlikely as that seems at the moment.

Well... yes. Who wouldn’t want that?

 

[Herat]

Well... yes. Who wouldn’t want that?

And the second best option is to have perfect preservation of all evidence

 

[MassGuy]

And the second best option is to have perfect preservation of all evidence

Or a perpetrator who is as stupid as he is evil.

This will end with a murder charge, it’s just a matter of finding her body.

 

[SuperTmo]

And the second best option is to have perfect preservation of all evidence

Yes! It’s so awful to consider the crimes people get away with because the body isn’t found in time. They should stop all trash pick up until every dumpster is searched.

 

[MassGuy]

Yes! It’s so awful to consider the crimes people get away with because the body isn’t found in time. They should stop all trash pick up until every dumpster is searched.

This guy disappeared at the same time his niece did, and was wandering with her clothing.

The fact that law enforcement already is talking about this being a “recovery” effort, makes it likely that there is even more compelling evidence that Elizabeth is dead.

Body or not, he is going down for murder.

That won’t be a problem though, as I think it’s very likely that her body will not only be recovered, but recovered sooner rather than later.

He’s done. I’m not worried.

 

[mtnlites]

Some of us value our privacy and do not believe in capitulating

Stand firm, Herat! Don't give in!

I'm just teasing you. I'm obsessed with FB. I try to deactivate mine all the time, but I'm just too darn nosy.

You can open a private account, however, and just limit the information you add. Most of the FB groups are scary, but every once in a awhile the victim's family and friends will join and provide interesting information that you can't find anywhere else. That's what's happened with the Delphi case.

 

[Herat]

This guy disappeared at the same time his niece did, and was wandering with her clothing.

He’s done. I’m not worried.

This means that at 4 pm, about 14 hours after the crime, and at least 12 miles from the crime scene apparently eluding LE, refusing to identify himself, he had her clothing in his possession?

 

[wary]

This means that at 4 pm, about 14 hours after the crime, and at least 12 miles from the crime scene apparently eluding LE, refusing to identify himself, he had her clothing in his possession?

That’s what it seems.

 

[MassGuy]

This means that at 4 pm, about 14 hours after the crime, and at least 12 miles from the crime scene apparently eluding LE, refusing to identify himself, he had her clothing in his possession?

Yup.

Whipple was in possession of "certain items," such as clothing, that authorities believe indicates the uncle "was with her after he said he was," the police captain told the outlet.

Search continues for missing 5-year-old Utah girl, uncle in custody

 

[Herat]

Yup.

Whipple was in possession of "certain items," such as clothing, that authorities believe indicates the uncle "was with her after he said he was," the police captain told the outlet.

Search continues for missing 5-year-old Utah girl, uncle in custody

What odd phrasing: "With her after he said he was?"

 

[aegarner1]

What odd phrasing: "With her after he said he was?"

MOO, maybe saying that he left her at house. But shows she was with him?

 

[wary]

What odd phrasing: "With her after he said he was?"

I’m not sure what it means, but maybe he said that the last he’d seen her was in his sister’s house? And the evidence showed that he’d been with her after that?

On the other hand, I thought that he hadn’t said anything to the police—not even his name?