UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #3

[SusanB]

I think I am slowly getting to know the culture, but I need lots more info. I agree that LE already has the scoop on JP, and they are doing right to let him feel he is in control. It is a matter of time until either he screws up, cracks up, gives up, or they have a solid circumstantial case worthy of presenting to the judge as probable cause for his arrest.
Tricia, it's all good, and as my old high school teacher once said, "No question is a dumb question - whats dumb is not asking the question."
I have some questions if anyone can help:
1. Did they use cadaver dogs to search any of the property surrounding this case?
2. Does anyone have any info about where JP went during those 24 hours in the rental car? Do we have mileage/GPS info, etc.
3. What "issues" does the Cox family have with Steven Powell?
4. Where is Joshua Powell RIGHT NOW? Does he have the children?
I have many more, but I'm getting frustrated with lack of information from LE - as well they are supposed to withhold info until the case is tight.

 

[Solstice Canyon]

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14037897

Story says it was updated 9:04pm Mountain Time. Now confirming that Josh & boys are staying with SP.

"Joshua Powell, 34, and his two children, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, are staying with Powell's father, said John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells. He said Joshua told him Saturday he was fired from his job. He worked as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company.

Powell likely won't be able to make payments on the couple's West Valley City home and will lose it, Hellewell said. He said he spoke with Powell about 8 p.m. Sunday.

"He just told me he needed to get away from the press and publicity and keep his kids away from it," Hellewell said."


P.S. SusanB, hoping this helps for #4.

 

[omegagal]

Here's the direct link for Josh's brother's bio as an Obama delegate for the 8th Congressional District:

http://www.obamadelegates.org/page/Michael+C+Powell+for+Barack+Obama

Interesting, seems arrogance is rewarded in this family. I would be so embarresed to have this bio...

 

[LaLaw2000]

The kids had eaten an early dinner and might have even been tired from the day. What if Josh did take the kids sledding not long after dinner, the kids did their sledding thing and then they did the smores? Josh could have told the kids they would do s'mores over the campfire. So they could have done the s'mores at the same time as the sledding. The kids could verify that they had s'mores over a campfire.

That would give Susan time to die from the drugs and or poison he had put in her food or drink at dinner. Susan could have been trying to get to the front door while they were gone, collapsed and vomited on the carpet near the front door, and also voided there. She could have been there on the floor and may have even had her purse and cell phone by her. Josh could have found her there. LE needs to swab Susan's purse and cell phone, IMO.

I know I have never gone to bed or even to lie down on the bed with my purse, cell phone, and keys. These items were found on her bed according to various articles. I think Josh placed them on the bed himself. The kids probably went to bed after getting home at 8:30 PM. Josh would then have time to clean up the spot on the living room carpet, roll Susan up in the quilt, then place her in the van before waking the sleeping boys to put them in the van. They would, at that hour of the night, be totally unaware that their mother was wrapped in a quilt right behind them in the van.

I also think that Josh (I hate writing this) dumped Susan's body in Washington State, or wherever City of Rocks is, during that 17 hours he was gone.

**I honestly do not think there would be a blood spot on the rug. Just vomit and where Susan had voided. Forensics done on the square of carpeting if LE took it, would show traces of DNA as well as proteins and any chemicals from Susan's body, IMO.

Just speculating here - hope it's okay.

 

[omegagal]

Hellewell is also Kiirsi's last name.... interestingly enough.

 

[Texas Mist]

Great research, Omega. My question is what talent does loser Josh have? All he seems to be good at is ordering his family around, creating off the wall fabrications, and acting his butt off! He THINKS he is "about something" but sad to say, he's totally not.
That evaluation also applies to Tiger Woods to a "T".
The folks who are running this investigation know what's up - he has to feel like "He's the man" and in control, so they are going along with that idea, waiting for him to screw up or give up. the problem is the poor little ones are with him, and all we can do is pray for their safety until the crime is solved one way or another.

BBM -

He thinks he is or he is really, really trying to be a bigshot -- like his brother & his dad who apparently have very successful careers...his brother in politics, and his dad must have some measure of 'success' judging by the gated community he lives in...I checked sale prices for some houses there on one street & they ranged from $250K - $400K+....one $250K home I checked out was 4000+ square feet.

Sooo - what does Josh (with his 2 yrs of community college) do when he starts his real estate business? Something really smart & savvy like spend $80-90K on magnets in a Yellow Book? Ohhhh - that's a real genius of an entrepreneur now isn't it....throwing those big bucks around in front of his other real estate co-workers.

Now - there is a kicker to this if it's true -- and considering Joshy had that HUGE bill to Yellow Book in collections on his bankrupcty -- it could very well be he never intended to pay for it....I saw a post @ either deseretnews or KSL (sorry can't remember) from someone who claimed to have worked w/ him @ homenet who posted that Joshy had said that he wouldn't get the bill for the magnets until "after the campaign" (which I took to mean after all Yellow Books for his market were delivered) -- and if he didn't make enough to pay for it, then he just wouldn't.

And looks like he didn't.

And no wonder Susan was calling her dad to have him talk to Josh about bad financial decisions.

This guy is definitely a recipe for disaster (if the magnet story is true)...sadly, it appears its far worse than financial disasters.

 

[GingerRed]

It would appear Josh showed up at the vigil in Puyallup tonight.

Susan's husband, Josh, has been named a person of interest in the case. He attended Sunday's vigil.

Link to the story.

While part of me is just sick with his appearance...it means he might very well be at his Dad's in South Hill as reported. It also means that LE can keep an eye on him. All things considered, that's a very good thing--distasteful as I'm sure many of us find it.

 

[Melanie]

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14037897

Story says it was updated 9:04pm Mountain Time. Now confirming that Josh & boys are staying with SP.

"Joshua Powell, 34, and his two children, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, are staying with Powell's father, said John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells. He said Joshua told him Saturday he was fired from his job. He worked as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company.

Powell likely won't be able to make payments on the couple's West Valley City home and will lose it, Hellewell said. He said he spoke with Powell about 8 p.m. Sunday.

"He just told me he needed to get away from the press and publicity and keep his kids away from it," Hellewell said."


P.S. SusanB, hoping this helps for #4.

Fired from his job? Egads! At least he should be able get unemployment, or disability (stress). I don't see how he would lose the home if he receives social security income from Susan, or her life insurance.

To add - of course he won't get anything from Susan if he kil'd her. Does he already know this and is throwing in the towel already and admitting it?

Mel

 

[Texas Mist]

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14037897

Story says it was updated 9:04pm Mountain Time. Now confirming that Josh & boys are staying with SP.

"Joshua Powell, 34, and his two children, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, are staying with Powell's father, said John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells. He said Joshua told him Saturday he was fired from his job. He worked as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company.

Powell likely won't be able to make payments on the couple's West Valley City home and will lose it, Hellewell said. He said he spoke with Powell about 8 p.m. Sunday.

"He just told me he needed to get away from the press and publicity and keep his kids away from it," Hellewell said."


P.S. SusanB, hoping this helps for #4.

Guess that explains why there were "friends or family" removing bedding and the bird from the house Friday & today. (reporter talks about the bird cage in the video & you can see it being removed)

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=9097273

 

[LaLaw2000]

It would appear Josh showed up at the vigil in Puyallup tonight.


Link to the story.

While part of me is just sick with his appearance...it means he might very well be at his Dad's in South Hill as reported. It also means that LE can keep an eye on him. All things considered, that's a very good thing--distasteful as I'm sure many of us find it.

It is a wonder someone didn't attack him!

Kiirsi Hellewell has made no bones about the fact that she still considers Josh a friend. Josh was probably encouraged to attend. All a part of a major makeover on the part of his lawyer, IMO.

 

[GingerRed]

It would appear Josh showed up at the vigil in Puyallup tonight.



Link to the story.

While part of me is just sick with his appearance...it means he might very well be at his Dad's in South Hill as reported. It also means that LE can keep an eye on him. All things considered, that's a very good thing--distasteful as I'm sure many of us find it.

It is a wonder someone didn't attack him!

Kiirsi Hellewell has made no bones about the fact that she still considers Josh a friend. Josh was probably encouraged to attend. All a part of a major makeover on the part of his lawyer, IMO.

Yeah, no kidding!

I have no doubt it's all for show. I'm just thoroughly grateful to know he went out in public, he hasn't fled yet, and he could be followed. The thought of LE losing him is NOT ok!

 

[omegagal]

Fired from his job? Egads! At least he should be able get unemployment, or disability (stress). I don't see how he would lose the home if he receives social security income from Susan, or her life insurance.

To add - of course he won't get anything from Susan if he kil'd her. Does he already know this and is throwing in the towel already and admitting it?

Mel

When he is self employed he would not be entitled to unemployment or disability from SSA unless maybe he had a private disability policy. I doubt it as they are more expensive than whole life policies.

As a new employee at this warehouse, unlikely he would be entitled to any of these benefits as well.

 

[Openmyeyes]

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14037897
updated 7:26pm mst

Don't know if everyone has read this yet, but YOWZA!

Here are a few things to add to our time line from the article:

Joshua Powell, 34, and his two children, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, are staying with Powell's father, said John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells. He said Joshua told him Saturday he was fired from his job. He worked as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company.

Powell likely won't be able to make payments on the couple's West Valley City home and will lose it, Hellewell said. He said he spoke with Powell about 8 p.m. Sunday.

"He just told me he needed to get away from the press and publicity and keep his kids away from it," Hellewell said.

He was fired and will not be able to make his house payment.....

This is hinky, no matter how you look at it. Most companies would let you take time off, do what you need to do, etc. They don't just out and out fire you. Look at Cindy Anthony, as an example, she got to take a medical leave
(I bet they were very cooperative about it too, snicker, snicker). No company would fire you UNLESS they have a much better reason. I think he is lying about the firing.

I'm thinking he's dropping the kids off to bolt. Ice Road truckers bolo.

 

[omegagal]

Don't know if everyone has read this yet, but YOWZA!

Here are a few things to add to our time line from the article:

Joshua Powell, 34, and his two children, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, are staying with Powell's father, said John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells. He said Joshua told him Saturday he was fired from his job. He worked as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company.

Powell likely won't be able to make payments on the couple's West Valley City home and will lose it, Hellewell said. He said he spoke with Powell about 8 p.m. Sunday.

"He just told me he needed to get away from the press and publicity and keep his kids away from it," Hellewell said.

He was fired and will not be able to make his house payment.....

This is hinky, no matter how you look at it. Most companies would let you take time off, do what you need to do, etc. They don't just out and out fire you. Look at Cindy Anthony, as an example, she got to take a medical leave
(I bet they were very cooperative about it too, snicker, snicker). No company would fire you UNLESS they have a much better reason. I think he is lying about the firing.

I'm thinking he's dropping the kids off to bolt. Ice Road truckers bolo.

Is this Kiirsi's husband, father?? Anyone know?

John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells

 

[LaLaw2000]

Well, getting away from the press/media (as stated in the article) would not include going to a high profile vigil, IMO. I am glad to know he hasn't fled, but he did stick his face in the media at the first opportunity. This guy is such a fake.

MOO

 

[Texas Mist]

Don't know if everyone has read this yet, but YOWZA!

Here are a few things to add to our time line from the article:

Joshua Powell, 34, and his two children, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, are staying with Powell's father, said John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells. He said Joshua told him Saturday he was fired from his job. He worked as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company.

Powell likely won't be able to make payments on the couple's West Valley City home and will lose it, Hellewell said. He said he spoke with Powell about 8 p.m. Sunday.

"He just told me he needed to get away from the press and publicity and keep his kids away from it," Hellewell said.

He was fired and will not be able to make his house payment.....

This is hinky, no matter how you look at it. Most companies would let you take time off, do what you need to do, etc. They don't just out and out fire you. Look at Cindy Anthony, as an example, she got to take a medical leave
(I bet they were very cooperative about it too, snicker, snicker). No company would fire you UNLESS they have a much better reason. I think he is lying about the firing.

I'm thinking he's dropping the kids off to bolt. Ice Road truckers bolo.

His 'friend' Wayne said Joshy was fired because of 'bad publicity'....I think that's what Josh told Wayne, but fact probably is that he never called into work....obviously not on Monday & probably not after that.

I'm guessing he was fired for abandoning his position....but who knows, maybe while he was out the employer did some checking around on his work performance & found other reasons to fire him.

Poor Josh - unappreciated. :boohoo:

 

[SusanB]

Don't know if everyone has read this yet, but YOWZA!

Here are a few things to add to our time line from the article:

Joshua Powell, 34, and his two children, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, are staying with Powell's father, said John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells. He said Joshua told him Saturday he was fired from his job. He worked as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company.

Powell likely won't be able to make payments on the couple's West Valley City home and will lose it, Hellewell said. He said he spoke with Powell about 8 p.m. Sunday.

"He just told me he needed to get away from the press and publicity and keep his kids away from it," Hellewell said.

He was fired and will not be able to make his house payment.....

This is hinky, no matter how you look at it. Most companies would let you take time off, do what you need to do, etc. They don't just out and out fire you. Look at Cindy Anthony, as an example, she got to take a medical leave
(I bet they were very cooperative about it too, snicker, snicker). No company would fire you UNLESS they have a much better reason. I think he is lying about the firing.

I'm thinking he's dropping the kids off to bolt. Ice Road truckers bolo.

Yea, that's a thought, maybe to flee to Canada. I doubt he has the funds or the desire to drag the little children along, so he's have to leave them with his father.
Somehow, I don't feel he ever really worked at that job, or only briefly, like you said, if he was a good, regular employee, and his wife goes missing, you would think they'd give him a break or a leave. Yea, hinky it is.:waitasec:

 

[Melanie]

Don't know if everyone has read this yet, but YOWZA!

Here are a few things to add to our time line from the article:

Joshua Powell, 34, and his two children, Charlie, 4, and Braden, 2, are staying with Powell's father, said John Hellewell, a friend of the Powells. He said Joshua told him Saturday he was fired from his job. He worked as a computer programmer for a trucking and warehousing company.

Powell likely won't be able to make payments on the couple's West Valley City home and will lose it, Hellewell said. He said he spoke with Powell about 8 p.m. Sunday.

"He just told me he needed to get away from the press and publicity and keep his kids away from it," Hellewell said.

He was fired and will not be able to make his house payment.....

This is hinky, no matter how you look at it. Most companies would let you take time off, do what you need to do, etc. They don't just out and out fire you. Look at Cindy Anthony, as an example, she got to take a medical leave
(I bet they were very cooperative about it too, snicker, snicker). No company would fire you UNLESS they have a much better reason. I think he is lying about the firing.

I'm thinking he's dropping the kids off to bolt. Ice Road truckers bolo.

I'm sure LE is reading the link as well and heading over to the office to confirm the firing. My bet is he didn't show up, didn't call, and is lying, lying, lying.

Most (if not all) companies are at will employers, and will work with you if you work with them. Josh doesn't seem the type to go to his employer and try to work it out. As we can see - he's a runner.

MOO

Mel

 

[Openmyeyes]

And he probably spent any funds he did have on all of his recent road trips and renting a car.

 

[Curious Me]

All said tongue in cheek...Maybe he was fired for not knowing which day is Monday. Here's a man that can not be counted on. He did not show up at work because . . . I don't think Josh will have time or money to file a wrongful termination suit. Anytime now, Josh, it's all going to come down on you.