UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #4

[Ransom]

Many of you say "alot like Scott Peterson" and another case comes to mind "Chris Coleman" because he was very church job involved and ended up killing his wife and two sons. Chris was having an affair, but didn't want to lose his job by getting a divorce...but I never understood why he had to kill those two boys in their beds.

But, Josh didn't kill his sons - he could have rigged the house for carbon monoxide to be done away with his whole family if it was for freedom. Josh's motives seem different than both Scott Peterson's and Chris Coleman's motives.

Josh, so far, doesn't seem to have wanted his freedom to party with a gf (at least, not that we know of yet) I think he killed SUSAN more out of anger, fragile ego issues he had, revenge and resentments that simmered to a boil. Wondering what you all think?

I totally agree. I don't think another woman is involved at all. JMO

 

[mysticrose]

Some new info from neighbor Tim Peterson

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14058397

On the day of the Powells' first meeting with the LDS Family Service counselor, she told Peterson about Joshua Powell's controlling behavior, and how he had become more possessive and obsessive since moving to Utah five years ago. She told Peterson she wanted her husband to become active in the LDS Church again and get his temple recommend by their anniversary in 2010, or she was seriously considering divorcing him.

"She went to the marriage counselor hoping it would save their marriage," Peterson said.

But Joshua's behavior showed a lack of caring for Susan's well-being, Peterson said.

One night, Susan called Peterson to ask for a blessing because she was feeling so sick. He called the Elders Quorum president, and the two went to the house. Joshua Powell talked with them for 45 minutes about a computer conference he attended before Susan finally walked into the front room, looking pale and ill, Peterson said.

He asked Susan if she wanted a blessing, and she accepted. Peterson asked Joshua Powell if he wanted to participate, as it was his wife and home. He shrugged his shoulders and said OK, Peterson said.

In the middle of the blessing, the Powells' 4-year-old son, Charlie, climbed on Susan's lap and was pretending to give the blessing, too.

"All Josh could do was laugh at his son," Peterson said. "It was so heartbreaking to see he just didn't care about her needs."

Joshua Powell also became increasingly erratic.

Powell once yelled at the Petersons for taking off their shoes and socks in his home, saying he'd have to spend all night cleaning the floors from the germs on their bare feet.

I do not like the sound of this man at all Josh that is...This is exactly how my ex was. It is like I am having a flash back (shudders) , especially the bare foot thing, my ex was diagnosed with this: psychopathic deviate with hysteria , multiple personality disorder and narcissism.
Seriously...

 

[smart blonde]

Does anyone remember the (attempted) news interview that showed Josh walking to, and getting into, his minivan? It was a few days after Susan disappeared, and the authorities had already returned the minivan to Josh.

In the video, all you see is the reporters microphone, and Josh getting into the van (refusing to answer the reporter's questions). It shows Josh buckling his seatbelt.

On the other side of Josh, in the passenger side of the van, it shows another person sitting there- mostly in shadow- but, you can see the person in the passenger side putting on her seatbelt, too.

I'm curious about who this person with Josh is.

 

[panthera]

I do not like the sound of this man at all Josh that is...This is exactly how my ex was. It is like I am having a flash back (shudders) , especially the bare foot thing, my ex was diagnosed with this: psychopathic deviate with hysteria , multiple personality disorder and narcissism.
Seriously...

The bare-foot thing with him seems just contrary to what most people would like ~ to not have dirty shoes on the carpet! Normally one wouldn't be thinking of the germs on someone's feet, at least not in my opinion!

 

[SuziQ]

Hellewell says there are a couple items she found especially shocking. Local reports stated Susan was “afraid Josh Powell might kidnap her two boys… divorce her or worse." Hellewell says Susan never told her that.

She also said she had never heard of any sort of will with "writing something so that no one would ever think she committed suicide," or stating "it would be so her boys would know that she would never kill herself, because she would never leave her boys alone."

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...ys-recent-reports/MBlD-1qZiU6rVNfZLj874A.cspx


Well Kiirsi I don't know about it hurting the investigation but I would bet you will be called in a trial for the defense.

I must be way behind or missed alot because I don't remember anyone claiming Susan told Kiirsi these things. So if she didn't hear them Susan must not have said them? Or am I completely remembering things incorrectly? (which is very possible)

 

[lemonmoussetart]

Does anyone remember the (attempted) news interview that showed Josh walking to, and getting into, his minivan? It was a few days after Susan disappeared, and the authorities had already returned the minivan to Josh.

In the video, all you see is the reporters microphone, and Josh getting into the van (refusing to answer the reporter's questions). It shows Josh buckling his seatbelt.

On the other side of Josh, in the passenger side of the van, it shows another person sitting there- mostly in shadow- but, you can see the person in the passenger side putting on her seatbelt, too.

I'm curious about who this person with Josh is.

I also wondered. Think Josh was staying with sister and BIL at that time so figured it must be them.

 

[smart blonde]

The bare-foot thing with him seems just contrary to what most people would like ~ to not have dirty shoes on the carpet! Normally one wouldn't be thinking of the germs on someone's feet, at least not in my opinion!

My former in-laws (whom I still love dearly) are like that... it's good to take off your shoes so that you don't track dirt on the carpets, but do not also take off your socks, as you may spread germs and diseases onto the floors.

So many rules, so little time. :crazy:

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I must be way behind or missed alot because I don't remember anyone claiming Susan told Kiirsi these things. So if she didn't hear them Susan must not have said them? Or am I completely remembering things incorrectly? (which is very possible)

Right, If Susan didn't tell her then it didn't happen.

 

[Texas Mist]

I must be way behind or missed alot because I don't remember anyone claiming Susan told Kiirsi these things. So if she didn't hear them Susan must not have said them? Or am I completely remembering things incorrectly? (which is very possible)

My take on the latest from Kiirsi is that if Susan didn't tell her, it didn't happen...Susan supposedly told her everything -- so if Kiirsi didn't know about it, it must not be true.

 

[panthera]

My former in-laws (whom I still love dearly) are like that... it's good to take off your shoes so that you don't track dirt on the carpets, but do not also take off your socks, as you may spread germs and diseases onto the floors.

So many rules, so little time. :crazy:

We always go barefoot in the house in the warm weather. This time of year though it's fuzzy socks and slippers!! I'd still rather have bare feet than dirty shoes though.

 

[panthera]

Right, If Susan didn't tell her then it didn't happen.

I figured that out too. Apparently this friend wasn't as close as she'd like to think. MOO

 

[smart blonde]

I wish at this point we could do a poll regarding how we think he may have disposed of her body.

1). buried

2). left exposed to the elements (in the woods, for example)

3). burned

4). put in a dumpster

5). tossed/rolled off a cliff or into a ravine

6). put or thrown into a body of water (lake or river)

7). left in a mine shaft or cave

8). chemically destroyed by lime, or similar caustic material

Wow. I didn't realize there were so many possibilities until I just started typing them out. I believe all of these have been mentioned here by WS posters.

This just proves to me what a daunting task the authorities are facing when it comes to searching for her. She could be anywhere.

Unless his hands were damaged by digging his stuck vehicle out of the snow, I think his hands were hurt during the disposal of her body.

 

[fran]

I must be way behind or missed alot because I don't remember anyone claiming Susan told Kiirsi these things. So if she didn't hear them Susan must not have said them? Or am I completely remembering things incorrectly? (which is very possible)

It appears that the friends that are turning these emails over to LE want to remain anonymous. I personally think Mr. Peterson may be at least one of them.

JMHO
fran




http://www.abc4.com/content/news/sl...nswers-into-Susan/n8xTFRQLOkKihW2iYi34wA.cspx

Cell phone, notes could provide answers into Susan Powell disappearance
Friends and family members are passing along emails and notes from Susan to police. Investigators are working hard to crack this case and are still asking anyone who may know anything in regards to Susan's disappearance to come forward.



http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...-Susan-Powell-told-of-marriage-struggles.html

E-mails from Susan Powell told of marriage struggles

Several of her friends, who wished to remain anonymous, confirmed to the Deseret News that they had turned over to police e-mails that she sent them in June and July of 2008, the point when all friends agreed the Powells' marriage was at its worst.

 

[smart blonde]

We always go barefoot in the house in the warm weather. This time of year though it's fuzzy socks and slippers!! I'd still rather have bare feet than dirty shoes though.

Oh, Panthera! We should be roommates! (lol!)

I am exactly the same way- barefoot as much as possible (I hate wearing shoes in my own house), and when the weather gets cold, I wear fuzzy socks!

 

[omegagal]

I think Kiirsi is well aware of what was going on. LE seems to have first gotten a hold of Kiirsi and I think she's in the "circle of trust". My only conclusion is that LE needs this information to be hush hush for now while they're finishing their investigation. The less that Mister Know It All gets word of the better. In that case, Kiirsi, don't you think Susan was running around with someone else... lol... we know who did it. Now if we can just get the state lab to hustle those results back...

 

[Curious Me]

Thanks for explaining that! Now it is even more strange that whatever she ate could've made her ill ~ considering he'd prepared it for her. It kind of reminds me of the Coleman case where the DH (and accused killer) had prepared his family's last meal before (allegedly) killing them. MOO

Yes, I forgot about that last meal Chris Coleman made for his family.

 

[panthera]

Oh, Panthera! We should be roommates! (lol!)

I am exactly the same way- barefoot as much as possible (I hate wearing shoes in my own house), and when the weather gets cold, I wear fuzzy socks!

Well, it's cold here at night right now!!! As it is cold in Utah, which makes it even more incredible he'd take the kids camping. The good thing though is if Susan's body is out there in the snow, it will be preserved a lot better than if it were summer.

 

[panthera]

Yes, I forgot about that last meal Chris Coleman made for his family.

Yes and just reading about JP fixing her dinner reminded me of that detail in the Coleman case. Eerie!

 

[smart blonde]

I think Kiirsi is well aware of what was going on. LE seems to have first gotten a hold of Kiirsi and I think she's in the "circle of trust". My only conclusion is that LE needs this information to be hush hush for now while they're finishing their investigation. The less that Mister Know It All gets word of the better. In that case, Kiirsi, don't you think Susan was running around with someone else... lol... we know who did it. Now if we can just get the state lab to hustle those results back...

I think you are right. I'm sure the investigators don't want Josh to panic, and do anything else stupid, while he is in control of those children. Kiirsi may have volunteered to be used for 'damage control'. I hope so.

If Josh realizes that an arrest is imminent, they may be worried that he may harm the boys. Josh seems like he may be the type that feels if he can't raise his boys, no one else can, either.

 

[passionflower]

You know, the first time I read the comment below, I wondered "hmmm - how much truth is there to this?"...after all this was soon after the story broke.

I don't wonder any more:

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4:46pm - Wed Dec 09th, 2009

I know this guy all too well. I used to be his neighbor and I think he's a lying cheating conniving little weasel......I'm just saying in general, this is what I think of his character


http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=8965718&comments=true

There's also several interesting comments by "John H."

bbm
interesting LYING, CHEATING!!!
how big is Josh anyway? Could he handle a dead woman alone??? 130 lbs???