UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #4

[mysticrose]

Go to this site scroll down and you will see an area to choose a city I chose West Valley City and it will bring up every camping area within 0 to 25 miles of the city....What I am trying to determine is what is still open and easily accesible for a van. Probally like looking for a needle in a haystack ..lol

http://www.utah.com/database/campgrounds/?id=0

 

[mysticrose]

Local news is reporting the following:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=9166805

Let's hope this isn't related, and pray still for Susan to come home safely.

Edited to update: The other news channel is saying that this is a woman, but they are saying it is likely a suicide. It may not be related to this at all.

A suicide where you set yourself on fire ? :waitasec: I do not believe I have heard of that before. Do we know if Josh is still in WA or cruising Interstate 15 making smores ?

 

[Curious Me]

Remember when I said narcissists love those spiritual folk that forgive and forgive, and give unconditional love, and then one more thing - they don't want to judge anybody.

Seems like I'm seeing a bunch of people immediately connected to Susan and Josh that don't want to judge Josh or admit his actions are simply UNBELIEVEABLE. I would also remind the good people trying not to judge that there are two little boys possibly in harm's way in Josh's care, so wake up now.

 

[dagnytaggart]

I am usually just a lurker, but I felt I had to speak up about this. I don't understand all the hate for Kiirsi. Of course that exerpt from her blog is going to be about her, it is her blog. She made a FB page dedicated to all the Susan info. She did not want to say why she is friends with Josh, perhaps it is because she is hoping he will confide. I am sure LE is wanting his friends to stay close with him, giving him a person to spill the beans and possibly keeping him from feeling alienated with no way out besides suicide and taking those boys with him before an arrest can be made. He needs to stay comfortable right now. Everyone seems so concerned about Susan, but I am sure Susan would not want people treating her best friend like that. I cannot imagine what Kiirsi feels, but I am sure most people will never be in her shoes. She is a real person with real feelings who has lost her best friend and I guess she reads some of this stuff, according to her references to gumshoes and whatnot. It seems that whenever anyone pipes up about something that doesn't fit with the "josh killed Susan" theory, people hate on them. I personally believe he killed her, but Kiirsi probably knows more about the Josh/Susan dynamic than I know so if she doesn't agree with me, I think I would be out of line calling her ignorant. She even alluded to the fact that there is information she knows about their relationship that no one had even thought of. I just think we should speculate without getting personal and hurtful to Susan's best friend.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I don't think Josh went camping at all. But I feel where he did go he felt he had to lie about it. Maybe a girlfriends house or a friends house.

 

[nervous_nellie]

Go to this site scroll down and you will see an area to choose a city I chose West Valley City and it will bring up every camping area within 0 to 25 miles of the city....What I am trying to determine is what is still open and easily accesible for a van. Probally like looking for a needle in a haystack ..lol

http://www.utah.com/database/campgrounds/?id=0

so far the only ones open are circle L and shadow mountain.... both are really close compared to what he was leading anyone to believe..

 

[winterrose]

It's a woman's dead body set on fire.

 

[mysticrose]

Body found in burning car

Perry, Utah (ABC 4 News) - A body is found inside a burning car underneath an I-15 overpass in Box Elder County.

A UHP trooper noticed smoke off I-15 and 1100 South. When he arrived on scene, he found a car on fire with a body inside.

Perry Police is being assisted by Box Elder County Sheriff's Office. Detectives are tracking footprints in the area and collecting evidence.

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...nd-in-burning-car/dDXLUKewV0WF6vAD7McwtQ.cspx

 

[winterrose]

Perry,Utah is a little over an hour from West Valley City.Where is Josh at now,anyone know?I guess LE will be checking if there's been any stolen cars in area,if a car was stolen to put her in.

 

[nervous_nellie]

Go to this site scroll down and you will see an area to choose a city I chose West Valley City and it will bring up every camping area within 0 to 25 miles of the city....What I am trying to determine is what is still open and easily accesible for a van. Probally like looking for a needle in a haystack ..lol

http://www.utah.com/database/campgrounds/?id=0

and american fork... it is the most far away...

 

[sunflowerchick]

and american fork... it is the most far away...

Even American Fork Canyon is only a 30-45 minute drive. You also pay to get in there, and some of that is closed at this time of year.

 

[harleysnana]

I don't think Josh went camping at all. But I feel where he did go he felt he had to lie about it. Maybe a girlfriends house or a friends house.

Not sure if this is true … in fact I’m going to say….
rumor is that Josh told people at work about a year ago that if you wanted
to get ride of a body you could hide it in the Oquirrh Mountains in a mine.

I believe the Oquirrh Mountains are in Tooele which is very close to where
he actually said he went camping.

I’m not going to say how I heard this because I don’t want to be picked
apart… just something I heard tonight from a local.

I also think that the police may believe he actually went "camping" that
direction because it is the only place that has been searched that I'm aware
of and it has been searched more than one time.

 

[Priester]

and why don't we just come out and say what we think! I am seriously sick of tap dancing around the BULL SH#T IN THIS CASE! We know the underlying issues and we know who last saw Susan Powell. Does it make anyone else a little sick that this is a little different? Heck! I cannot even say how different it is without violating the creed of different... dang it.. so I tried... I really tried...

I hope LE is willing to tell Josh, "Cut the BS, nobody is buying your story."

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I am usually just a lurker, but I felt I had to speak up about this. I don't understand all the hate for Kiirsi. Of course that exerpt from her blog is going to be about her, it is her blog. She made a FB page dedicated to all the Susan info. She did not want to say why she is friends with Josh, perhaps it is because she is hoping he will confide. I am sure LE is wanting his friends to stay close with him, giving him a person to spill the beans and possibly keeping him from feeling alienated with no way out besides suicide and taking those boys with him before an arrest can be made. He needs to stay comfortable right now. Everyone seems so concerned about Susan, but I am sure Susan would not want people treating her best friend like that. I cannot imagine what Kiirsi feels, but I am sure most people will never be in her shoes. She is a real person with real feelings who has lost her best friend and I guess she reads some of this stuff, according to her references to gumshoes and whatnot. It seems that whenever anyone pipes up about something that doesn't fit with the "josh killed Susan" theory, people hate on them. I personally believe he killed her, but Kiirsi probably knows more about the Josh/Susan dynamic than I know so if she doesn't agree with me, I think I would be out of line calling her ignorant. She even alluded to the fact that there is information she knows about their relationship that no one had even thought of. I just think we should speculate without getting personal and hurtful to Susan's best friend.

Well she is the one telling everyone how they are supposed to think and act and investigate the case.

When people on here have a different opinion we do not hate on them we argue with them like we would here if she posted. But she chose to attack from a different part of the internet which is her right.

I also disagree with Josh needs to feel comfortable. He needs the pressure put on him. Everyday that goes by he probably feels less guilty and less pressure to confess. I think they need to put the pressure on him and not let him think anyone is buying into his BS. I feel what they are doing is enabeling.

 

[winterrose]

Wasn't it said Josh put about over one hundred miles on the rental car,that would be back and forth,about an hour away,maybe?

 

[harleysnana]

Well she is the one telling everyone how they are supposed to think and act and investigate the case.

When people on here have a different opinion we do not hate on them we argue with them like we would here if she posted. But she chose to attack from a different part of the internet which is her right.

I also disagree with Josh needs to feel comfortable. He needs the pressure put on him. Everyday that goes by he probably feels less guilty and less pressure to confess. I think they need to put the pressure on him and not let him think anyone is buying into his BS. I feel what they are doing in enabeling.

I don't think pressure will make him crack.
I think he is the type that needs to think he has fooled everyone
and then maybe he will slip up.

 

[winterrose]

I totally agree,a controlling person needs to have people with more power over them putting pressure,make them know they are not in control.Shake them up,they'll make mistakes.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I don't think pressure will make him crack.
I think he is the type that needs to think he has fooled everyone
and then maybe he will slip up.

Well that is never going to happen, they can't tell the 99 percent of the country that believe he is guilty not to say anything or stop all the reporting of it.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I really think Kiirsi overstepped her bounds too when she told the reporter that people needed to quit leaking the stuff about emails and how Susan never told her any of that stuff and it wasn't true. Kiirsi is not the police and she is not in charge of the investigation or the search and she is not the spokesperson for anyone.

She has no idea what Susan sent in emails unless she monitored her account. A defense attorney will love getting her on the stand.

 

[nursebeeme]

imhoo.. whomever asked about kiirsi...

she is tap dancing around the true meat of this story and she has no clue. this is just my opinion only.. and what do I know?

I guess Kiirsi has it all figured out and Susan has been wisked away by strangers...

I personally do NOT THINK the way Kiirsi does at this time. I think something really bad happened to Susan and I THINK JOSH had something to do with it.