UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #5

[Bartleby]

Not quite sure why searches are not being done.

Not quite sure why you think searches are not being done.

I've seen pictures of people searching, under hedges, alongside roads etc. LE have asked they be informed by anyone before doing a search, presumably so as not to go over the same ground twice.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Not quite sure why you think searches are not being done.

I've seen pictures of people searching, under hedges, alongside roads etc. LE have asked they be informed by anyone before doing a search, presumably so as not to go over the same ground twice.

I should have said organized searches. Large groups of people going out to look for her in groups and stuff.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Not quite sure why you think searches are not being done.

I've seen pictures of people searching, under hedges, alongside roads etc. LE have asked they be informed by anyone before doing a search, presumably so as not to go over the same ground twice.

Hi Bartleby,,,,,,,,,,

If you are going to quote a post of mine please quote the whole thing and not a part of it. You can use the bold button to highlight a specific part of my post and that is alright. It just throws it out of context when you do it that way. Thanks.

 

[lemonmoussetart]

Not quite sure why you think searches are not being done.

I've seen pictures of people searching, under hedges, alongside roads etc. LE have asked they be informed by anyone before doing a search, presumably so as not to go over the same ground twice.

I can't conceive of LE considering civilian/neighbor searches actual searches.
Wouldn't want to re-cover ground that ol Mr & Mrs Smith did on their corner lot. Seriously?

As Dr. Fessel mentioned we are all wondering WHY LE has not done legitimate searches of any kind, or called other professionals in to do so.

 

[Bobbisangel]

We know Josh went in with his lawyer and refused to to take the police to the spot where he was camping. He had no obligation to talk to them and he could end the interview at anytime. They could not badger and threaten him in front of the lawyer or the lawyer would just say that is it.

If a friend of mine told me the nonsense story Josh is spouting they would not be a friend anymore period.

If a friend of mine refused to cooperate with LE if their husband or wife was missing AND if they came up with such a pitiful story as to where they had been...they wouldn't be my friend anymore either. There is no reason for a innocent man not to cooperate with LE...not to help look for his wife....not to show some concern as to what has happened to her. This guy has shown NOTHING. He acts like he could care less about Susan. One month later and he is packing up and moving hundreds of miles away.

He would still have a job if he hadn't decided to murder his wife and hide her body instead of going to work on the first day of a new job! The guy doesn't seem to ambitious to me. Maybe his dad is going to support him and his boys so Josh doesn't have to work. His dad seems like a big A-hole to me.

I hope LE go in and really go over that house with a fine tooth comb as soon as that U-haul pulls out. Let's hope they are on the ball this time. They missed following his rental car so let's hope they don't wait to go into the house and go over it until after it is sold! Get on the ball LE.

 

[lemonmoussetart]

Not quite sure why you think searches are not being done.

I've seen pictures of people searching, under hedges, alongside roads etc. LE have asked they be informed by anyone before doing a search, presumably so as not to go over the same ground twice.

Bartleby,

By that am taking it that you are close. What are the local thoughts on this case?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

See here is the thing that just burns the hell out of me.

I know good and well if Josh stood up in church and asked everyone there to get in their vechiles and snowmobiles, skies and snowshoes and organize a search for his missing wife they would do it in a heart beat.

But since Josh isn't asking, nobody is. He is the head of his household.

 

[harleysnana]

I can't conceive of LE considering civilian/neighbor searches actual searches.
Wouldn't want to re-cover ground that ol Mr & Mrs Smith did on their corner lot. Seriously?

As Dr. Fessel mentioned we are all wondering WHY LE has not done legitimate searches of any kind, or called other professionals in to do so.

LE has done some searching.

 

[Curious Me]

Well, I hope they step up on the searches and find Susan soon. Josh just left the state. I don't think he's going to talk. We are waiting for something to happen other than Josh riding off into the sunset. Hopefully, find Susan, get the testing results back, get this man behind bars, and get the children with the best guardians that will love them and help them heal. (the kids will most likely need some counseling once they're old enough to realize what was really going on that night)

Susan's out there someplace and she wants to be found.

 

[wyome]

Has anyone wondered if he really took the kids out with him like he said he did? Could he have gone and disposed of her first, then came back with the boys, took them out and stayed gone to 'develop' his alibi? Would have been risky to take them along, imo. Speshly, the 4 year old may well be able to give LE info Josh wouldn't want them to have.

Was it verified if it was true that the one said 'Mommy is in the woods now.'? or is that hearsay at this time?

I've wondered this same thing. He would have taken a huge risk to take those boys with him to dispose of her. One glance in the backseat, or if she had "come to" if she was not dead, or if the kids were not fully asleep and saw something. I'm beginning to think maybe he did dispose of her quickly, then came home and cleaned up the car, cleaned carpet/turned on fans, then grabbed the kids from their sleeping beds. Car alarm could have gone off while he was hastily doing these things.

Maybe he HAD to go camping so he could burn some evidence. It would be interesting to know if the kids talked of a campfire and smores. And that quote you mentioned about mommy in the woods, strange. I recall reading that as well, but don't know of its source.

If this was the scenario, her body has to be close. I don't think he'd travel a great distance while his kids were sleeping at home.

 

[SuziQ]

Well, I hope they step up on the searches and find Susan soon. Josh just left the state. I don't think he's going to talk. We are waiting for something to happen other than Josh riding off into the sunset. Hopefully, find Susan, get the testing results back, get this man behind bars, and get the children with the best guardians that will love them and help them heal. (the kids will most likely need some counseling once they're old enough to realize what was really going on that night)

Susan's out there someplace and she wants to be found.

Where would you search? Searching for the sake of searching doesn't make any sense. The only known area to search was searched extensively by LE in the initial stages of the investigation. The weather is too cold, the terrain is too dangerous to just send people out on a whim. Is Susan in the mountains? Can't search there either. Avalanche danger is too high. If you get lost in Utah and aren't found soon, you stay lost for a very very long time.

Someone mentioned a search going on for a missing guy by drilling in a river daily. Well that's a pretty narrow target vs the four or five states Josh could have traveled to.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

See here is the thing that just burns the hell out of me.

I know good and well if Josh stood up in church and asked everyone there to get in their vechiles and snowmobiles, skies and snowshoes and organize a search for his missing wife they would do it in a heart beat.

But since Josh isn't asking, nobody is. He is the head of his household.

That is EXACTLY the point.

Josh asks for help moving and up pop a bunch of enablers to pack and heft.

IF Josh had even hinted he wanted a search, all those adults would help. The ones who aren't able to brave the terrain could babysit for those that can.

They make ribbons and recruit more internet followers, wring their hands and ask for prayers. FINE, but do something to FIND her, she isn't going to walk up to the door of her house and say wtf.


I give kudos to several members of the reality Susan Powell Facebook who are out today in 8 groups of 5 to cover more ground.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Where would you search? Searching for the sake of searching doesn't make any sense. The only known area to search was searched extensively by LE in the initial stages of the investigation. The weather is too cold, the terrain is too dangerous to just send people out on a whim. Is Susan in the mountains? Can't search there either. Avalanche danger is too high. If you get lost in Utah and aren't found soon, you stay lost for a very very long time.

Someone mentioned a search going on for a missing guy by drilling in a river daily. Well that's a pretty narrow target vs the four or five states Josh could have traveled to.

I agree that a search may be futile, but if this was my friend or my family member, I would walk the snowbanks. I would walk every wooded roadside.

Every search begins with square one. Then branch from there.

 

[SuziQ]

I agree that a search may be futile, but if this was my friend or my family member, I would walk the snowbanks. I would walk every wooded roadside.

Every search begins with square one. Then branch from there.

BBM. Where is square one? I'm not a religious person and usually think that prayer and ribbon tying is not useful. In this case though, I think it's the best thing they have. Susan could be within a thousand square miles.

 

[wyome]

Mr. Cox stated at one time, "When they (police) broke the window and got in the house, they found my daughter's purse and cell phone on the bed, a wet spot on the floor dried by two fans", said Cox, "And the family was gone."

If this is accurate, I find it interesting that Susan's purse and cell phone were on the bed. I don't sleep with my purse and cell on the bed. Makes you wonder what they were doing there.

 

[fran]

Interesting how Josh 'asks for help moving' but doesn't make a plea for Susan to return or for someone to return Susan.

Nope! Just runs and hides behind his daddy's shirt tail and then runs back to town and stealthly packs up his belongings and runs back to daddy again!

Wow! I wonder how Susan could have been such a poor judge in character? What a chicken s***!

I don't know who here has AOL, but yesterday they had Josh's face on their front page, the picture where he looks like if anyone said "Boo!" he'd burst into tears.:loser:

JMHO
fran

 

[passionflower]

Snipped for space from Angel Who Cares on forensic astrology thread:
Families of the missing want solace
Disappearances » Utah's official database lists 56 persons, including Susan Powell.
Updated: 01/05/2010 09:54:52 AM MST
<snipped>
according to other states is that allot of unfound people??

 

[AlexisFresca]

Well, I hope they step up on the searches and find Susan soon. Josh just left the state. I don't think he's going to talk. We are waiting for something to happen other than Josh riding off into the sunset. Hopefully, find Susan, get the testing results back, get this man behind bars, and get the children with the best guardians that will love them and help them heal. (the kids will most likely need some counseling once they're old enough to realize what was really going on that night)

Susan's out there someplace and she wants to be found.

The weather and road conditions need to be taken into account and I'm sure they are the main hinderance with any extensive/intense searching that could be done. Especially if it was blizzardy, drifty and so on on the night he disposed of her body.

I remember when Tori went missing in Canada and it was at the end of winter, but still frozen and snow covered ground. She wasn't found until July. A lot of the terrain had changed from the time she went missing to July when she was found.

Its hard to be patient, and yes, it sucks that this isn't moving along faster. Just want to add it was also discovered afterthefact that in the weeks of not knowing/hearing anything on the news and it looked like nothing was going on? LE in the Stafford case had done several things and were on the right track, but it was never publicised so as not to jeopardize the case and the evidence.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Mr. Cox stated at one time, "When they (police) broke the window and got in the house, they found my daughter's purse and cell phone on the bed, a wet spot on the floor dried by two fans", said Cox, "And the family was gone."

If this is accurate, I find it interesting that Susan's purse and cell phone were on the bed. I don't sleep with my purse and cell on the bed. Makes you wonder what they were doing there.

Hmmm ... I wonder if Josh had set them there with the intention of taking them along to get rid of them and then forgot, OR

If he set those items there as 'staging' to make it look like she was planning on going somewhere, but later while getting ready to leave, she let someone in the house who ended up being her killer. :eyeroll

 

[AlexisFresca]

I've wondered this same thing. He would have taken a huge risk to take those boys with him to dispose of her. One glance in the backseat, or if she had "come to" if she was not dead, or if the kids were not fully asleep and saw something. I'm beginning to think maybe he did dispose of her quickly, then came home and cleaned up the car, cleaned carpet/turned on fans, then grabbed the kids from their sleeping beds. Car alarm could have gone off while he was hastily doing these things.

Maybe he HAD to go camping so he could burn some evidence. It would be interesting to know if the kids talked of a campfire and smores. And that quote you mentioned about mommy in the woods, strange. I recall reading that as well, but don't know of its source.

If this was the scenario, her body has to be close. I don't think he'd travel a great distance while his kids were sleeping at home.

Imo it would have been quite a risk to dispose of her body in the presence of the children.