VA - Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell, 18, Norfolk, 3 March 2015 #12

[Mountain_Kat]

Thread-vets, I ask you: expressed as a percentage, what is the chance AJ is still alive? (Optional: explain.)

I don't want to express my opinion on this, due to a family member who follows here.

 

[PeggyAnnMcKay]

I have the search pinned down to the pond on the map just in case you want to see where it is in relation to other searches. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z5lb-Hs-z9os.k8mN8xfP-540

And for anyone joining us recently, on this map the icons are in chronological order (with the exception of the "pings" because NONE of the ping info came from LE, so I kept the icons in the same place as the related searches). Quotes and links to MSM come up when you click an icon.

Wow, wow, wow...That map is absolutely amazing! Thank you so much for putting that together. GREAT work!

 

[Hraefn]

I know Joe Fischer has mentioned the charge in a video I have seen. :findinglink: be right back with the link hopefully!

Around 2:45 Joe Fisher discusses WH's "now seven charges," but he does not actually list the maiming of an animal charge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HxMbE78MNk

 

[justalead]

I have the search pinned down to the pond on the map just in case you want to see where it is in relation to other searches. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z5lb-Hs-z9os.k8mN8xfP-540

And for anyone joining us recently, on this map the icons are in chronological order (with the exception of the "pings" because NONE of the ping info came from LE, so I kept the icons in the same place as the related searches). Quotes and links to MSM come up when you click an icon.

I think it's so strange that they singled out that pond in particular. One, even though it's right off 258, is in a fenced area on a private lot. Two, just a mile down the Joyner's Bridge Rd to the east (611), there is a boat ramp right at the Blackwater River. Now that place, I would consider a place of interest.

I lived out there a few years back and traveled up and down that road quite a bit. It's used often by people for fishing (cough) and as a general hang out spot. And it's not that far from the pond.

***correction*** I said east but meant west. Duh!

 

[atthelake]

Well, *this* is interesting:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...relatives-hit-cops-doing-help-bring-home.html

Just now starting to follow this case and read this article. Coming in as a :newbie: I had one thought that may be mentioned above stream in threads which I have yet to read :innocent:

And that would be is there a consideration that he broke into the home to have an excuse for his DNA and/or fingerprints at that locale....

What does this location have as to any significance for those following since inception.

:twocents:

 

[Hraefn]

Hack, can you add a notation on that map for Franklin? JH confirmed, in msm ,that WH had been doing work there.

Added! Good idea, thanks!!

 

[katydid23]

Just now starting to follow this case and read this article. Coming in as a :newbie: I had one thought that may be mentioned above stream in threads which I have yet to read :halo:

And that would be is there a consideration that he broke into the home to have an excuse for his DNA and/or fingerprints at that locale....

What does this location have as to any significance for those following since inception.

:twocents:

I think he broke in there to plant evidence to blame the kid that lived there. JMO

 

[margarita25]

I think it's so strange that they singled out that pond in particular. One, even though it's right off 258, is in a fenced area on a private lot. Two, just a mile down the Joyner's Bridge Rd to the east (611), there is a boat ramp right at the Blackwater River. Now that place, I would consider a place of interest.

I lived out there a few years back and traveled up and down that road quite a bit. It's used often by people for fishing (cough) and as a general hang out spot. And it's not that far from the pond.

Interesting.

:lookingitup:

 

[margarita25]

How many miles from this pond to AJ's residence? Tia.

 

[zapped]

No surprise to me at all, Fuhrman routinely offers his background experience on criminal/police cases.

From the sounds of it maybe he should offer it less? Or at least confine his comments to actually knowing what he's talking about?

We've all done our fair share of speculating on these forums but most of us arent considered expert witnesses either so our words dont carry as much weight.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Oh, that person's house?

If so, then the alleged plumbing vehicle sighting would be an additional reason for them to be searching here?

No....nothing to do with the pond. I quoted the wrong post! Let me go fix it.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Just now starting to follow this case and read this article. Coming in as a :newbie: I had one thought that may be mentioned above stream in threads which I have yet to read :innocent:

And that would be is there a consideration that he broke into the home to have an excuse for his DNA and/or fingerprints at that locale....

What does this location have as to any significance for those following since inception.

:twocents:

As near as I've been able to put together, this is the home of one of AJ's male friends. He MAY have sent AJ a few inappropriate texts. AJ's cousin mentioned that she thought AJ might have been concerned about him "doing something".

It's all a bunch of bs, imo. Did this kid send AJ a few inappropriate texts? Maybe. But I believe WH seized on the cousin's comments, broke into this kids house, punched his dog in the head, and planted evidence. This is where the 4 obstruction charges come in, I think. The game plan was for WH to break in, "discover" AJ's jacket, move it to "bring the evidence to light", and then one of AJ's 4 other friends was supposed to find it when he went over there. The 4 kids rolled on Wes, saying they were afraid of him.

That's how I figure everything went down. But no confirmation from LE, so....

 

[margarita25]

No....nothing to do with the pond. I quoted the wrong post! Let me go fix it.

Lol, I was like huh?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Lol, I was like huh?

When I hit send, I looked at it and thought, "Wait, what the hell am I responding to?!". :floorlaugh:

That's a clear signal that I need to take a thread break.

 

[GigTu]

And finally, if I read the interview correctly it seems some old lady rang him and told him about the clothes on the road (is that right it was some lady?) - he says they rang the police, left a voicemail message and because no one rang back she called him and that's why he went searching.

Respectfully snipped and BBM
Have the police denied this claim? Seems pretty brazen to claim someone left a voice mail at the PD and it not be true. That is 100% trackable.

 

[Hraefn]

How many miles from this pond to AJ's residence? Tia.

There are several routes, and a local posted on here recently that often people will drive a somewhat roundabout way to avoid the toll roads (and tunnel traffic). Here is a google map of some of the options, it's about 50 miles, a little over an hour of driving. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Mil...c94959187bee56a!2m2!1d-76.8742989!2d36.742719

 

[margarita25]

So, fwiw Talking about the pond, cell phone, it reminds me of Jessica Ridgeway's case, the location where her backpack (red herring) was found. ARS admitted to just finding a random spot in another direction. I visited the spot myself. It was a residential location. Kind of reminds me of this pond area. Jmo.

 

[grammy56]

I have the search pinned down to the pond on the map just in case you want to see where it is in relation to other searches. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z5lb-Hs-z9os.k8mN8xfP-540

And for anyone joining us recently, on this map the icons are in chronological order (with the exception of the "pings" because NONE of the ping info came from LE, so I kept the icons in the same place as the related searches). Quotes and links to MSM come up when you click an icon.

Have you happened to look at the map posted over here? Compared to where they have searched....https://twitter.com/anjelicamariee

 

[margarita25]

There are several routes, and a local posted on here recently that often people will drive a somewhat roundabout way to avoid the toll roads (and tunnel traffic). Here is a google map of some of the options, it's about 50 miles, a little over an hour of driving. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Mil...c94959187bee56a!2m2!1d-76.8742989!2d36.742719

Thank you very much.

 

[margarita25]

Do you guys know if it was one reported/alleged sighting or several possible sightings (meaning independently by more than one person/source/group of person(s) at one time) of the van at the pond? Tia.

(Eta: I know it says "residents", plural, but ykwim)

Argh, none of my words are coming out right today.