VA - Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell, 18, Norfolk, 3 March 2015 #16

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  • #321
As far as the truck, I'm starting to think that it is a big part of this whole thing. Actually I have been thinking about something for the last couple of days.
 
  • #322
Ok, I know this is a silly question, but this is my first time asking posting or asking but what is SM? I have seen it posted several times. I have figured most things out but this one stumps me lol.
Don't feel bad! I wondered the same thing for many of the abbreviations . . . But that was 16 threads ago. Now they all make perfect sense IMO, LOL. Just google the abbreviation and you will get it quickly (except BBM ... that one threw me for a bit.....:blushing:
 
  • #323
I do think, IMO, that when an arrest is made in this case, that it is going to be a big surprise as to whom the responsible person is for Anjelica's demise.

Too my discrepancies in timelines, too much info withheld regarding family dynamics, living situations, too many skeletons in closets, and lots of instability in many of the major players in the case. JMO

Methinks there is a certain person involved either as an accomplice, a co-perp or main perp. I cannot name said person nor sleuth them as they have not been named a POI or suspect.

But I feel most people feel the same way about that individual.

And that is all I can say on this topic currently, unless there are more developments.
 
  • #324
I realize that young people can have a myriad of relationships that are complicated and drama-filled and the below tweet by AJ could simply be her response to one of those, but it gives me such a gut-wrenching red flag. 2 weeks before she was last seen alive she feels she has started 'a war' - and I speculate that it was not a friend/boyfriend she was referring to. When it comes to motive there are so many things to consider. What if she spoke a truth to her mom that made her feel like she started 'a war' between her mom and WH? What if WH blamed her specifically for his separation with her mother because of something she shared about him. This tweet combined with others further down where she states she wants to go away for spring break and then actually asks if there is anyone who wants to go away for spring break makes me think she knows 'war' is going on in the family and that she does not want to be around it. This is just one personal theory of mine in considering the environment that she was entering into on her return.
"I didn't mean to start a war. I just wanted you to let me in." Anjelica (Hoffer) Hadsell Feb 16, 2015
https://twitter.com/anjelicamariee?lang=en
I understand what you are saying, but I didn't go that direction. These are lyrics from a Miley Cyrus song, Wrecking Ball. Lots of kids quote lyrics and lines that are meaningful or funny to them in their SM posts, and sometimes they are posted with one particular person in mind. I'm a few pages behind, so perhaps this has already been said.
 
  • #325
Wasnt just you. I saw that and thought the same thing.

If I were in that exact same situation, I doubt my estranged wife would be on there. And if she didnt understand
....oh well.

I feel like a good person would understand completely.

Estranged wife/husb doesn't apply in this case. He is her father (adopted father) so it would be different. Also he hasn't been charged with her disappearance or murder (but even if he was, he would still be her legal father). Its the mothers choice how to word the obit. I have seen families in my Real Life that people didn't agree with who was or wasn't listed in an obit. But ultimately its up to her parents. JMO
 
  • #326
Of course you would!! I'm hysterical :loveyou:

Lucky, I thought you were in the "pokey" drinking chocolate ba'ba's! How are you posting? By carrier pigeon?!!!
 
  • #327
I have never been so appalled by an obituary. Never have I personally seen close friends listed as surviving members, Yet a father figure of 13 years left out. And the children's last name. This is petty and such a low blow I am having a hard time remaining on the "poor grieving people side" I have to step away before I get in trouble. But this just really MADE Me sick.

Not to mention JC listed among friends, and 5th at that. I would be pissed if I were him. Interesting also is the omission of CF, who was friends with all of these guys and AJ as well.
 
  • #328
Totally up to the family as to what goes in the "paid" Obit. Usually, or should I say in our family, if we mention one aunt/uncle, we list them all...or one cousin, they all get mentioned. My family is so large that we usually just stay with immediate. In the case of my girl, she was very close to a couple of her aunts/uncles and it was important they be mentioned. Because we wanted to mention them, we mentioned them all.
BBM...bottom line. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
 
  • #329
This isnt normal spacing.....single spaced in most places but triple spaced in the middle of the paragraph.......in weird places, like its trying to stretch some words and sentences to fit the table.

No zoom here at all either. I suppose it could be my browser or my screen resolution if the site is supposed to be responsive.

Not really that big of a deal. Just odd.

I not sure, but its possible that the link you looked at there was an adv pic that didn't carry over. But here is the obituary from the Funeral Home, nothing sneaky looking to me, JMO **Death date is date that body is recovered. A member doing medical studies taught us this on another case. Has held true on all I have looked up. **

Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell

Norfolk - Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell, 18, went home to be with the Lord on Thursday April 9, 2015.

She was born August 9, 1996 in Chesapeake, Virginia to her mother, Jennifer Hadsell. She is preceded in death by grandfathers, Issac Busby and Richard Hadsell.

AJ was a freshman at Longwood University where she played on the softball and field hockey club teams as a freshman. She loved spending her free time umpiring for LCN, volunteering for various charities and spending time with her family and friends.

She is survived by her parents, Jennifer Hadsell and Wesley Hadsell, of Norfolk Va; three sisters and one brother, Justice, Gracie, Abby and Timothy Hadsell; her maternal grandparents of Va Beach, Jeff and Kathy Busby; maternal great-grandmother, Ramona Busby; paternal grandmother, Katherine Hadsell; her aunt and uncle, Maribel and Kevin Zirkle of Va Beach; aunt, Sheryl Wright of Norfolk; uncle, Drew Hadsell; cousins, Adam and Chelsey Zirkle of Va Beach, Chandler Busby of Norfolk; and friends, Andre Barr, Collin Saunders, Thomas Woodall, Bryce Atkins, Josh Campbell, Catherine Holmes, Jonathan Atkisson, Lorin Miller, Darion Defreitas, Michaella Wright and Robert Hall.

Memorial services will be held at 1:00 p.m. Saturday, April 18th at Hollomon-Brown Funeral Home, 8464 Tidewater Drive, Norfolk Va 23518. In lieu of flowers, a memorial fund has been set up in Anjelica's name at Wells Fargo in which you can give a gift in her name from any location across the world. Condolences may be offered to the family at www.hollomon-brown.com



Published in The Virginian Pilot on Apr. 13, 2015
- See more at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/pilotonline/obituary.aspx?pid=174620224#sthash.mnfv8r6U.dpuf
 
  • #330
I do think, IMO, that when an arrest is made in this case, that it is going to be a big surprise as to whom the responsible person is for Anjelica's demise.

Too my discrepancies in timelines, too much info withheld regarding family dynamics, living situations, too many skeletons in closets, and lots of instability in many of the major players in the case. JMO

With all due respect, there is nothing thus far to indicate they distorted or withheld any information about anything you mentioned above to law enforcement.

This family was enduring one of the most stressful events imaginable. They were damned by the missing person enthusiast community no matter what they did. That's a terrible shame. I expect LE to advise the families & friends of missing persons to remove all social media and refuse all media requests in the not-too-distant future. I would personally recommend that now. Very little good comes from the overwhelming majority of sleuthing and amateur investigative efforts.

ETA: Note how very little information was released by Norfolk PD. More & more frequently, you will find that this will be the case.

It's a sad truth about society today: we all want to be (and feel we have some right to be) voyeurs of others' lives. The more they give us, the more we demand, all in the name of "justice for" whomever. All too frequently, we end up casting stones at these imperfect victim/survivors, perhaps as a subconscious way of reassuring ourselves that a crime like this could never happen to someone we care about, or maybe it's an excuse for our rush to uninformed judgments without all of the facts of a case.

Yes, it is interesting to discuss these cases.
Yes, we are all entitled to form opinions and express them.
Yes, we have more information sooner, but often much of it is extraneous and irrelevant.

JMO
 
  • #331
I don't know who wrote the obit.

When my Grandma died, my sister and I wrote hers. Even with us proofreading each other, we had many mistakes before the final copy was submitted. It was a long obit, and it cost over $500 to have it put in the paper!! Some people only have a brief obit that the funeral home puts. If that's what this one was, I can see how mistakes happened. If it's truly mistakes the family will have it corrected before being published in the paper. JMO!!!
 
  • #332
I have a Master's degree in Family Counseling. Trust me. I'm not suggesting that because he is her "dad" that that makes him a good guy. Does my post read that way? Did I miss something? My point was that no matter what her mom decided her relationship was going to be with Wes, AJs relationship was stuck with him! Legally, she is his. So, being that she agreed or was forced or whatever the case was to him being her dad, maybe she still felt ok getting the truck to use from him. He's her FATHER! No where did I suggest that anyone's biological, nor legal, status as a parent makes them good or bad. That is a completely different issue that is way too deep to discuss here.

My apologies, I read your comment correctly (and no, nowhere did you imply him being legally her parent makes him a good guy) I just replied in anger because this whole case just sort of does that to me.
 
  • #333
I think being 18, she could of filed to have him removed as her father at the County Clerks Office.

Do we know that she wanted that? I mean from AJ? TIA Just not quite understanding your comment
 
  • #334
I do think, IMO, that when an arrest is made in this case, that it is going to be a big surprise as to whom the responsible person is for Anjelica's demise.

Too my discrepancies in timelines, too much info withheld regarding family dynamics, living situations, too many skeletons in closets, and lots of instability in many of the major players in the case. JMO

If previous cases I've followed here and off forum as well are any indication, it's entirely possible you're right about a big surprise as to who's arrested (and who is cleared). Sometimes it's a mind-blower for sure and none of the leads the public were made aware of pointed to the guilty party in any way.

In any case, given how many different LE agencies are involved in this investigation, I have no doubt at all the right person(s) will be brought to justice.
 
  • #335
Did WH write this obit from jail?? Smh
 
  • #336
I agree.

Dysfunctional doesnt even begin to cover it. Most families wouldnt use a tragedy such as this as an excuse for pettiness and the settling of scores. Neither would they label someone the black sheep of the family for having the courage to face a painful truth and stand up for what they believe is right.

I feel so much for the good guys in this. WH's sister, Zack, and those poor, poor children.

Ive seen more dignity and class from guests on Jerry Springer.

Exactly. And there again we see the same marked immaturity we have all come to expect with respect to many of the "adults" in AJ's life. And I'm just going to come right out and say it, it is this arrested development that put AJ in danger from the start.
 
  • #337
Okay so I read the obit. :facepalm: It's truly a shame AJ's sisters weren't properly named. I also found it odd DH is listed the way he is. The only thing that makes sense there is, if WH's mother raised him. If that's the case then it makes sense for DH and WH to call each other bro, and for DH to call AJ his niece, even though she's actually his step-cousin.

:thinking: I just re-read what I wrote and I'm not even sure I got all that right. I think I turned into my own grandmother while trying to sort it out.
 
  • #338
It's his nephew, but I guess they are more like brothers. Everyone on here calls him the nephbro

Is that your dog in your aviator?

ditto what she said. I at least thought that they might honestly try to clear that one up.


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  • #339
Haven't been able to keep up on this case but I read this earlier.. possible was clarified somewhere along the line in updates:

AJ is an athlete and scholar. She plays field hockey, softball, swimming and was the valedictorian at Norview High School.
http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/local/mycity/norfolk/2015/03/12/he-search-for-aj/70226930/

John Herrick was valedictorian of the Norview Class of 2014. There is a photograph of AJ taken with John. AJ did graduate with honors.

ETA: That's a small point, and one that isn't really relevant in this case, but we are sticklers here for facts.
 
  • #340
BBM...bottom line. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

At the end of the day, no, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks about an obit.

It does however say a lot about the person(s) who submitted it (or it can, in certain cases). I remember a pretty long discussion about the obit posted for Dellen Millard's father Wayne Millard. Millard is one of them charged with killing Tim Bosma, as well as Laura Babcock and the very same father the obit was written for. This case is local for me and is found here.
 
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