VA - Anjelica "AJ" Hadsell, 18, Norfolk, 3 March 2015 #7

[hey-Debbie]

#MISSING: AJ HADSELL, was last seen between the evening hours of March 2, 2015 and morning hours of March 3, 2015 in the TARRALLTON AREA of Norfolk, Va. If you know the whereabouts of AJ please contact the Norfolk Police Department at (757) 664-7026. #helpsavethenextgirl #bringajhome

https://www.facebook.com/SaveTheNex...0.1427476904./942006245824236/?type=3&theater

 

[Ontario Mom]

Allegedly someone called in about a tip beforehand and that information was never verified. That person did not get a call back. The person reached me through ulterior motive… uh, a different avenue... and the cops were very pissed because I had a secondary cell phone. They think I have something to hide, but I’ve also, at the same time, conducted my own stuff for this

- Wesley Hadsell

First, totally irrelevant but I hate that he said "ulterior motive" here when he meant alternative means, or methods. Or heck, maybe he meant departed my presence. It's hard to tell.
Second, since the only phone numbers listed on any fliers, ever, have been his, JH's & NPD's, the only way that "allegedly someone" could have contacted him by ulterior motive was if that person knew him personally and had that secondary cell phone number. So whoever it was, if indeed the person exists and the tip actually happened, is someone well known to Wes.

Hmm... now that I think about it, maybe ulterior motive just slipped out at the wrong time?

 

[hey-Debbie]

I don't think LE has final approval of the flyers, unless the family wants and uses their advice. I don't know of any rule for flyers. But since the usual moonbats and nuts will call just to aggravate people, LE is used as tip-taker.They are used to dealing with the mental cases in society.

Yeah but it's not a family flyer is a missing persons organization. I'm going to have to go back and see if I can' find the thread where it was discussed and the man from this organization actually confirmed the time with him and that it was verified. Someone from WS knew him and contacted him personally.

 

[hockeymom4]

And he was out in 2010, and met JH. He was arrested at age 20 for running off with a 15 yr old. Arrested for 'restraint' or something like that. So it seems to be a pattern with him, imo.

I think that the charges in the kidnapping of his ex-wife were dropped because she refused to testify. Her father is quoted in a couple of the articles as saying there was a history of domestic violence. Just because someone beats the charges it does not mean it never happened, imo. Where there is smoke there's fire, imo.

You stated above that he was released after serving time for the kidnapping charge and other charges related to the ex wife. My comment was in regards to where is it stated that he served time for this as everything I have seen stated the charges were dropped.

 

[Sjm_qc]

I definitely see what you're saying but I don't think he would have kept her alive. MO would be that it would have been an accident, something that got out of hand or just something very impulsive. I have wrapped my head around the timeline though. The Help Save the Next Girl campaign, who is HG's family, has on their poster last seen between the evening hours of 3/2 and 3/3 and the guy that runs the site has stated there is a credible source they verified to that timeline. I can't get past that. That means there is someone that we don't know that is out there that can verify this.

So either she went on her own in that white car and was seen later by someone that knows her or maybe someone close to the investigation is talking to LE and giving them those details.

BBM: (Help Save the Next Girl was founded by Morgan Harrington's parents). Kenny Jarels (who helps run HSTNG) queried the "last seen" time with NPD and was told "between the evening hours of March 2nd and the morning of March 3rd".
https://m.facebook.com/SaveTheNextG...01238821410/942006245824236/?type=1&source=48

I also coincidently queried NPD directly and was given the same reply, although NPD's original news release has not been updated from "5.30 am Tuesday 3rd".


According to the first media reports, AJ was reported missing at 9.15 pm Tuesday 3rd.

I'm still not "sold" on the white car . I do think that LE has *something* credible (I don't know if it's a sighting or communication) for them to mention the Monday evening.

 

[hey-Debbie]

BBM: (Help Save the Next Girl was founded by Morgan Harrington's parents). Kenny Jarels (who helps run HSTNG) queried the "last seen" time with NPD and was told "between the evening hours of March 2nd and the morning of March 3rd".
https://m.facebook.com/SaveTheNextG...01238821410/942006245824236/?type=1&source=48

I also coincidently queried NPD directly and was given the same reply, although NPD's original news release has not been updated from "5.30 am Tuesday 3rd".

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According to the first media reports, AJ was reported missing at 9.15 pm Tuesday 3rd.

I'm still not "sold" on the white car . I do think that LE has *something* credible (I don't know if it's a sighting or communication) for them to mention the Monday evening.

Thank you! I forgot that it was on their website as well. :loveyou:

 

[peytnsmom]

Yeah but it's not a family flyer is a missing persons organization. I'm going to have to go back and see if I can' find the thread where it was discussed and the man from this organization actually confirmed the time with him and that it was verified. Someone from WS knew him and contacted him personally.

I think it was a Twitter exchange between Joe Fisher from WAVY and whoever runs HSTNG. He said something about the time being verified with LE "very very recently". Or it may have been a FB post. Either way I'm pretty sure the exchange was between these two people.

 

[katydid23]

You stated above that he was released after serving time for the kidnapping charge and other charges related to the ex wife. My comment was in regards to where is it stated that he served time for this as everything I have seen stated the charges were dropped.

I misspoke. He was arrested and charged with Domestic violence, rape and kidnapping. In the end, he was only charged with Bank Robbery. However, when I read what the father in law said about Wes, it made me believe that the ex was too afraid to testify against him. So even though those charges were dropped, I don't think it was because they were untrue. JMO

 

[wendybtn]

Breaking into someone's house and punching their dog is not simply childish behavior...it's VIOLENT behavior. Aside from that, it taints evidence. But I'm sure WH couldn't care less about that minor fact.

In Tennessee, where I live, WH would be an RSO for his 2005 crimes, classified as violent. I do not think I can stand another Hadsell hanger-on-we saying, WH has never hurt anyone.

 

[mom2six]

I don't understand lowering the reward at all. In every missing persons case I've seen the reward goes up not down .

The person that noted that on twitter retracted. They had seen an older flyer that led them to that conclusion. I do not know why flyers are still being posted with incorrect information, but let's not make this worse than it is.

 

[wendybtn]

I misspoke. He was arrested and charged with Domestic violence, rape and kidnapping. In the end, he was only charged with Bank Robbery. However, when I read what the father in law said about Wes, it made me believe that the ex was too afraid to testify against him. So even though those charges were dropped, I don't think it was because they were untrue. JMO

Correct. She declined to testify and press charges. Hopefully, those laws have been updated. Or maybe it was allowed because they were married.

 

[Sjm_qc]

In Tennessee, where I live, WH would be an RSO for his 2005 crimes, classified as violent. I do not think I can stand another Hadsell hanger-on-we saying, WH has never hurt anyone.

WH was never convicted of the 2005 kidnapping and rape charges. They were dismissed without prejudice.

 

[Pisces22]

- Wesley Hadsell

First, totally irrelevant but I hate that he said "ulterior motive" here when he meant alternative means, or methods. Or heck, maybe he meant departed my presence. It's hard to tell.
Second, since the only phone numbers listed on any fliers, ever, have been his, JH's & NPD's, the only way that "allegedly someone" could have contacted him by ulterior motive was if that person knew him personally and had that secondary cell phone number. So whoever it was, if indeed the person exists and the tip actually happened, is someone well known to Wes.

Hmm... now that I think about it, maybe ulterior motive just slipped out at the wrong time?

Possibly....there was no secondary phone, period. That's why there is no second number and why there is no known whereabouts of a second phone, which is why the police didn't know about it. Of course, if this is the case, there would not need to be a secondary phone if the "tip" was relayed to him verbally, created in his head, imagined and spurred on by someone else in the "group". IMO you don't have to have a phone to receive imaginary "tips".

 

[Sjm_qc]

I think it was a Twitter exchange between Joe Fisher from WAVY and whoever runs HSTNG. He said something about the time being verified with LE "very very recently". Or it may have been a FB post. Either way I'm pretty sure the exchange was between these two people.

See my post #947, just above yours. The information came directly from NPD on 3/16. It may have been tweeted later .

 

[Ontario Mom]

I'm leaning toward the window of "last seen" being evening 3/2 and early morning of 3/3 is from LE and based on what the family told them.

I honestly don't think AJ was actually seen by anyone (other than whoever made her leave) after the morning of 3/2. And the texts to sister & mom weren't from her at all.

Now here's something else that's been bugging me. Remember at first WH was all "we last saw her at 7am"? (so far, every single original article has been updated so I can't find one that still says it that way, but it WAS reported that way at first) Well, he's entirely full of crap since he wasn't even at the house at 7am (unless he was hiding in the bushes or something, which actually wouldn't surprise me). But he inserted himself in the "we" when it wasn't him at all, it was JH and AJ's sisters.

Well, he also said "We were talking back and forth," Hadsell said. "On the third, she texted me the okay emoji, you know, the little hand sign." and then goes on to say "That was the last time we had contact with her. Or was it her?" Hadsell asked. "We don't know. We're not sure." http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/local/mycity/norfolk/2015/03/12/he-search-for-aj/70226930/

This leads me to believe he's inserting himself again (like he is clearly fond of doing, hence, no bond) since it was JH that said SHE got the texts from AJ (and when those texts came in at 5:30 in the morning... WH wouldn't have been there, since he wasn't living at the house at the time). Not to mention, if WH wasn't even living at the house at the time (and AJ would have known this) why would she bother texting WH when she'd already allegedly texted her mom, telling her she wasn't ready to come home yet? Just thinking outloud here, but I don't believe his phone ever got a text from AJ at all.

I hope that makes sense. It's kind of huge to me that WH wouldn't even have been there when JH got those texts.

 

[luckyseven]

- Wesley Hadsell

First, totally irrelevant but I hate that he said "ulterior motive" here when he meant alternative means, or methods. Or heck, maybe he meant departed my presence. It's hard to tell.
Second, since the only phone numbers listed on any fliers, ever, have been his, JH's & NPD's, the only way that "allegedly someone" could have contacted him by ulterior motive was if that person knew him personally and had that secondary cell phone number. So whoever it was, if indeed the person exists and the tip actually happened, is someone well known to Wes.

Hmm... now that I think about it, maybe ulterior motive just slipped out at the wrong time?

I truly think he just don't know what "ulterior motive" means. A lot of people don't understand that it has a criminal/negative connotation. It seems to me like WH just thinks ulterior is a synonym for alternative.

 

[wendybtn]

WH was never convicted of the 2005 kidnapping and rape charges. They were dismissed without prejudice.

I know, but in Tennessee, marital rape can be prosecuted by the state.

 

[mom2six]

I just prefer a behind the scenes approach, myself. I don't really care what information the public receives. If I find something I think is important, I call LE. They are really the only ones with the ability to truly help AJ.

JMO

She's become a clanging cymbal. Too much repeating and accusations and the words lose their meaning and strength. She just looks vindictive. The approach loses effectiveness.

 

[Doralima]

FYI: Brother DH is actually Nephew DH, the sister's son. Which I guess explains his closer association to the younger group, though I can't determine if JH and WH actually have any adult friends themselves, aside from TM. Also, though irrelevant, I am just curious to know who the mother of WH's older bio child is - the teenage boy, not of our local area.

 

[katydid23]

When Wes was 20 and his girlfriend was 15, and pregnant, he convinced her to run away with him. They were eventually caught and he was arrested for 'felonious restraint.'

When his 2nd wife accused him of Domestic Violence and Rape, after she had separated from him, the charges were sent to the Grand Jury. On that day, she was forcibly taken, KIDNAPPED, from her fathers home and taken on a 2 week road trip, which included a bank robbery.
She refused to testify against him, and her father said it was because she was frightened. So he was prosecuted for grand larceny, assault, burglary and forgery instead.

His 3rd wife just separated from him. He is living in a hotel. Is there a pattern developing here?