VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #6

[Kano]

Say i looked up my own myspace page in cached links, i'd have no background show up in the cached links (Sorry, i just tested this out) even though i havent bothered to update my myspace all summer long.. I suppose i could change the background and load the picks on my own database, Might be a dif outcome.

 

[dangrsmind]

No, i seem to remember RAZ's page having a different background (seems like they redid most of the pages sam had origionaly done graphics for) and i can only get the google cache to go back a bit for the page... The background seems to over ride on the cache anyway so i am really not sure.. Maybe Pixy would know? Anyway thanks dangrs.

I'd be very interested to see an earlier version of her MySpace page if one exists somewhere out there in the aether...

Even so, the image was created a month before the murders so it couldn't have been made to capitalize on the murders unless they were planned in advance and known to the artist.

This is based on analyzing the EXIF information contained in the JPEG file on MySpace. It is possible to fake the EXIF information of course, but that takes some expertise that seems beyond the scope of what we are dealing with here. And again it would indicate some sort of deceptive intent since you can't accidentally alter this information in general.

 

[dangrsmind]

That picture is sort of prophetic. You have a self abortion or FREE ABORTION (mel) taking place, a ragdoll (emma) and a female head (debra) and a male head (mark). Things that make you go hmmm.

That's what I thought too. There's also a lot of references to the number four in this image. Four people dead.

Did I ever mention that Crowley says the number four is associated with the scent of cedar? (Recalling that Humbaba was said to be the guardian of the sacred cedar forest).

What does it all mean? I have no idea.

 

[ericclimbs]

FreeAbortions name.... well
just what it says
lol
dont look too deep into it
*warning, dont look at this if ur offended easy about abortion*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1YvbXcTqc

For me high school was the usual classic rock (and the not so usual like the very under-appreciated King Crimson), hard rock like Maiden, Sabbath, Ozzy, and Priest, that sort of thing. In college I added Slayer, Metallica, Testament, the heavier stuff, some Gangsta Rap and then, upon suddenly (hint hint) seeing things in a wider brighter light, I moved into mellow stuff like Reggae and the Grateful Dead. After that I was turned on to Punk and got into that for a long time eventually moving to Techno, Ambient, and such alternative bands as Modest Mouse and Built To Spill. My tastes run the eclectic gamut from very dark and brooding to spiritual and enlightened. I love all this stuff still to this day.
What I'm trying to say is, in following this discussion, I have never had the displeasure of having to hear such terrible music. I mean forget the lyrics (whether they are offensive to one or not) -- I'm just talking about those lame beats and obvious cheap computer synth generated music. Now any dork with a computer and a social networking site can make sh*tty music and find plenty of other sad people to tell him its great. Do any of these kids know how to play an actual instrument????
Disclaimer: the above rant is, of course, just my opinion. If you dig the Horrorcore you have every right to tell me what I can do with my opinion. :talker:

 

[PAXIMUS]

For me high school was the usual classic rock (and the not so usual like the very under-appreciated King Crimson), hard rock like Maiden, Sabbath, Ozzy, and Priest, that sort of thing. In college I added Slayer, Metallica, Testament, the heavier stuff, some Gangsta Rap and then, upon suddenly (hint hint) seeing things in a wider brighter light, I moved into mellow stuff like Reggae and the Grateful Dead. After that I was turned on to Punk and got into that for a long time eventually moving to Techno, Ambient, and such alternative bands as Modest Mouse and Built To Spill. My tastes run the eclectic gamut from very dark and brooding to spiritual and enlightened. I love all this stuff still to this day.
What I'm trying to say is, in following this discussion, I have never had the displeasure of having to hear such terrible music. I mean forget the lyrics (whether they are offensive to one or not) -- I'm just talking about those lame beats and obvious cheap computer synth generated music. Now any dork with a computer and a social networking site can make sh*tty music and find plenty of other sad people to tell him its great. Do any of these kids know how to play an actual instrument????
Disclaimer: the above rant is, of course, just my opinion. If you dig the Horrorcore you have every right to tell me what I can do with my opinion. :talker:

An instrument? Lmao.

 

[ericclimbs]

An instrument? Lmao.

I know right?!

Something with strings, valves, skins, reeds or other mouthpieces? They still make those things.

 

[PAXIMUS]

I know right?!

Something with strings, valves, skins, reeds or other mouthpieces? They still make those things.

I play my guitar for an hour every night for ****s and giggles, I am getting better but its just a stress reliever for me, something I enjoy whether I am good at it or not. I been learning to play marachi lately.

 

[dangrsmind]

I know right?!

Something with strings, valves, skins, reeds or other mouthpieces? They still make those things.

Not all instruments belong in the symphony...

See http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/09/09/moldovers-syncomasher-at-maker-faire/

 

[dangrsmind]

For me high school was the usual classic rock (and the not so usual like the very under-appreciated King Crimson), hard rock like Maiden, Sabbath, Ozzy, and Priest, that sort of thing. In college I added Slayer, Metallica, Testament, the heavier stuff, some Gangsta Rap and then, upon suddenly (hint hint) seeing things in a wider brighter light, I moved into mellow stuff like Reggae and the Grateful Dead. After that I was turned on to Punk and got into that for a long time eventually moving to Techno, Ambient, and such alternative bands as Modest Mouse and Built To Spill. My tastes run the eclectic gamut from very dark and brooding to spiritual and enlightened. I love all this stuff still to this day.
What I'm trying to say is, in following this discussion, I have never had the displeasure of having to hear such terrible music. I mean forget the lyrics (whether they are offensive to one or not) -- I'm just talking about those lame beats and obvious cheap computer synth generated music. Now any dork with a computer and a social networking site can make sh*tty music and find plenty of other sad people to tell him its great. Do any of these kids know how to play an actual instrument????
Disclaimer: the above rant is, of course, just my opinion. If you dig the Horrorcore you have every right to tell me what I can do with my opinion. :talker:

SickTanick's "official" bio mentions that he played guitar and other instruments. FWIW.

 

[tapu]

FreeAbortions name.... well
just what it says
lol
dont look too deep into it
*warning, dont look at this if ur offended easy about abortion*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e1YvbXcTqc

WHAT is THAT in AID of??? Is there really a call for that???

It sounds like Monty Python, but perverted. Shooo-eeee.....


Well, meaning aside, I think Mel made an unwise choice in that nickname. You can sort of see yourself sitting around using Sick and Ragdoll and Razakel in friendly conversation, but are you going to say, "Hey, want another Powerade there, Free Abortions?"

 

[piXy]

No, i seem to remember RAZ's page having a different background (seems like they redid most of the pages sam had origionaly done graphics for) and i can only get the google cache to go back a bit for the page... The background seems to over ride on the cache anyway so i am really not sure.. Maybe Pixy would know? Anyway thanks dangrs.

Razakel does her own graphics for her and all of SKR's myspace pages. Sam did do and its still up www.skrwillrise.com
shes had that same page up since right before Femicide came out so i dont remember w hat she had up before. =(

 

[piXy]

WHAT is THAT in AID of??? Is there really a call for that???

It sounds like Monty Python, but perverted. Shooo-eeee.....


Well, meaning aside, I think Mel made an unwise choice in that nickname. You can sort of see yourself sitting around using Sick and Ragdoll and Razakel in friendly conversation, but are you going to say, "Hey, want another Powerade there, Free Abortions?"

True Tapu lol but everyone i know just referred to her as Mel <3

 

[tapu]

True Tapu lol but everyone i know just referred to her as Mel <3

Well, YEAH, I guess you would.

 

[Recovering-Lurker]

For me high school was the usual classic rock (and the not so usual like the very under-appreciated King Crimson), hard rock like Maiden, Sabbath, Ozzy, and Priest, that sort of thing. In college I added Slayer, Metallica, Testament, the heavier stuff, some Gangsta Rap and then, upon suddenly (hint hint) seeing things in a wider brighter light, I moved into mellow stuff like Reggae and the Grateful Dead. After that I was turned on to Punk and got into that for a long time eventually moving to Techno, Ambient, and such alternative bands as Modest Mouse and Built To Spill. My tastes run the eclectic gamut from very dark and brooding to spiritual and enlightened. I love all this stuff still to this day.
What I'm trying to say is, in following this discussion, I have never had the displeasure of having to hear such terrible music. I mean forget the lyrics (whether they are offensive to one or not) -- I'm just talking about those lame beats and obvious cheap computer synth generated music. Now any dork with a computer and a social networking site can make sh*tty music and find plenty of other sad people to tell him its great. Do any of these kids know how to play an actual instrument????
Disclaimer: the above rant is, of course, just my opinion. If you dig the Horrorcore you have every right to tell me what I can do with my opinion. :talker:

No kidding. I love many types of music, but that is just a headache.

 

[dangrsmind]

Razakel does her own graphics for her and all of SKR's myspace pages. Sam did do and its still up www.skrwillrise.com
shes had that same page up since right before Femicide came out so i dont remember w hat she had up before. =(

I read that she was a graphic artist somewhere so thanks for this confirmation.

I think that's pretty interesting in the context of this particular image given the murders, but since I couldn't be sure who made it I didn't want to attribute it to her mistakenly.

A professional graphic artist generally would know about the EXIF data and might know how to alter it too.

 

[dangrsmind]

WHAT is THAT in AID of??? Is there really a call for that???

It sounds like Monty Python, but perverted. Shooo-eeee.....


Well, meaning aside, I think Mel made an unwise choice in that nickname. You can sort of see yourself sitting around using Sick and Ragdoll and Razakel in friendly conversation, but are you going to say, "Hey, want another Powerade there, Free Abortions?"

This is an outrageous insult to Monty Python. :furious:

 

[southernvagirl]

I read so much trying to catch up with the threads this week-end, I don't remember whether or not the subject of Sam videoing the crime was bought up....After reading, someone (sick) had called police , giving the info from another person,,,I immediately thought he had sent live pics to this person....Now, after reading the resignation of syniister, with WIR, I feel more than ever syniister actually saw the crime scene live and maybe Sam even peppered the scene up by walking syniister through and doing even more stuff, if that is possible.....I don't believe syniisater would have believed Sam, if this had not happened.......What say you???? Also, I would like to tell everyone who puts up links ,,,,thank you for the warnings...Although, way back when,,I learned my lessen and do NOT open those links...Thanks just the same.

 

[piXy]

I read that she was a graphic artist somewhere so thanks for this confirmation.

I think that's pretty interesting in the context of this particular image given the murders, but since I couldn't be sure who made it I didn't want to attribute it to her mistakenly.

A professional graphic artist generally would know about the EXIF data and might know how to alter it too.

onRaz;s cd Femicide, in the cover credits it says "Artwork done by Poltart and UAS"

Raz didnt do those graphics for that.
Im not sure if she had input into the design but im sure she did.

 

[dangrsmind]

onRaz;s cd Femicide, in the cover credits it says "Artwork done by Poltart and UAS"

Raz didnt do those graphics for that.
Im not sure if she had input into the design but im sure she did.

PolTart: http://www.poltart.com/

UAS: http://www.myspace.com/undergroundartistservices

Seems like UAS is Guttamind and Razakel.

 

[dangrsmind]

I read so much trying to catch up with the threads this week-end, I don't remember whether or not the subject of Sam videoing the crime was bought up....After reading, someone (sick) had called police , giving the info from another person,,,I immediately thought he had sent live pics to this person....Now, after reading the resignation of syniister, with WIR, I feel more than ever syniister actually saw the crime scene live and maybe Sam even peppered the scene up by walking syniister through and doing even more stuff, if that is possible.....I don't believe syniisater would have believed Sam, if this had not happened.......What say you???? Also, I would like to tell everyone who puts up links ,,,,thank you for the warnings...Although, way back when,,I learned my lessen and do NOT open those links...Thanks just the same.

We know the police collected various devices including portable data storage devices, but they haven't revealed what (if anything) they found on these.

Given that so many people in the horrorcore community were in disbelief that Sam committed these acts, it does seem plausible that the initial response would be that he was joking or that it was all part of some sort of elaborate prank. If so it also makes sense that he might have provided some evidence to prove his point.

As far as an actual real-time feed, this would be technically possible if there was a web camera around and they had a decent broadband connection to the house. For example he could have used USTREAM to do this.

However this is all speculation, there is no confrimed report of any images taken by Sam at the scene.