GUILTY VA - Jean Smith, 25, shot to death, Isle of Wight County, 17 April 2015

[zapped]

I don't know what to think. The location she was found was not near the house - it was 30 or so miles away. I am assuming she was shot where she was found as it seems like a rural area where people might be used to hearing gunshots by hunters.

I'm thinking she went willingly on the trip - perhaps a hunting or shooting trip together - rather than it being an argument that ended in gunfire. I don't think she would go willingly if she was upset with him or thought he was upset with her. That's not good mood for a safe hunting trip.

I don't think it was an accidental shooting, however.

JMO.

Spring Turkey season just started last week in Virginia so this theory is very plausible IMO.

Even if she wasnt actually hunting she could have been out scouting locations in preparation to hunt.

 

[Inthedetails]

It looks like the article posted above has been updated, or at least I missed this info when I read the article earlier:

"Court documents say Saub had admitted to police that he was one of the last people to see Jean Marie alive. Police also say Saub was evasive and stated he couldn’t remember his exact whereabouts or anyone he may have spoken to during the estimated time of Jean Marie’s death.

The court documents also note that Saub showed an investigator portions of text messages during the interview process. The investigator noticed that all text messages prior to April 17th had been deleted.

It is believed that Jean Marie was killed on the night of April 16th or early on the 17th."

http://wtkr.com/2015/04/22/man-arre...nvestigation-into-former-navy-sailors-murder/

 

[carbuff]

Wouldn't surprise me if she found out he was defrauding her grandmother and threatened to expose him, or something along those lines.

Poor woman.

 

[Inthedetails]

I don't get how this could play out. He shoots Jean Marie, presumably, in the woods. Goes back to Grandmother's house and neither of them report Jean Marie missing?

??

 

[rosie_lee]

https://twitter.com/WTKR3/status/591327694136086528

I just found this on twitter. They have named Eric Saub as the POI

 

[katydid23]

How did Jean Marie get mixed up with Eric Saub?

We really need to keep reminding our sons and daughters to be very very careful about who they start dating. I know I do. Drives my daughter crazy but she did thank me once. :wink:

 

[iamnotagolem]

I don't get how this could play out. He shoots Jean Marie, presumably, in the woods. Goes back to Grandmother's house and neither of them report Jean Marie missing?

??

And my initial thought was she found out he was defrauding her Grandma and confronted him, so certainly she didn't willingly go with him. So did he subdue her then drive her all the way out there? It'll be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

[klily444]

https://twitter.com/WTKR3/status/591327694136086528

I just found this on twitter. They have named Eric Saub as the POI

Let the sleuthing begin!

https://www.facebook.com/EricSaub

 

[Inthedetails]

Let the sleuthing begin!

https://www.facebook.com/EricSaub

Maybe they had politics in common. Both Jean Marie and Eric posted support of the Libertarian Party on FB.

 

[klily444]

I don't get how this could play out. He shoots Jean Marie, presumably, in the woods. Goes back to Grandmother's house and neither of them report Jean Marie missing?

??

Congrats on Post of the Day, IntheDetails!

I'm wondering if he recently moved out of her and her grandmother's house. I say this because each article I've read says either that they ended their relationship a month ago, or that they were on again/off again. In that case, grandma may have thought she was at his place or elsewhere, and there wouldn't be two people in that house missing a third. KWIM?

http://wtkr.com/2015/04/17/body-found-in-isle-of-wight-county/

 

[klily444]

His twitter: https://twitter.com/EricSaub

Eric Saub @EricSaub · Apr 15
Create memories with those you love

 

[Tammy N]

His Instagram: https://instagram.com/ericsaub/

 

[iamnotagolem]

His Instagram: https://instagram.com/ericsaub/

No pics of Jean on there and he clearly didn't care that people saw him in possession of a firearm.

 

[iamnotagolem]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericsaub

 

[Tammy N]

This is old - but a compilation of his posts from the OregonLive online news: http://topics.oregonlive.com/tag/EricSaub/index.html

Article about his 2007 convinction: http://www.bendbulletin.com/csp/med...in/News/story.csp?cid=1522419&sid=497&fid=151

 

[iamnotagolem]

http://www.bendbulletin.com/csp/med...in/News/story.csp?cid=1522419&sid=497&fid=151

Eric Saub, 21, created a false purchase order from a nonexistent company and then electronically sent that order to Best Buy, Deschutes County Deputy District Attorney Kandy Gies said. Saub received the purchase request at work and began filling the order. He then loaded the merchandise into a U-Haul truck in September and hid it at his home, according to court records.

“You’re a pretty good con man,” Deschutes County Judge A. Michael Adler said. “You’re obviously very persuasive and very skilled. But you’re not going to con yourself out of this prison sentence.”

Saub stole four 2007 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI’s worth $28,996, court records show. He loaded three of the ATVs into a utility trailer that he had bought in Linn County with another fake check. Saub then posted the ATVs on the Web site Craigslist.

Saub explained his actions Thursday to the judge, saying that he had become depressed about getting rejected by the U.S. military and tried to “satisfy” himself with “material possessions.”

Dr. Susan Dragovich also testified that, based on an April evaluation, Saub might suffer from delusional disorder, self-mutilation, severe suicidal depression and a “loss of personal identity.”

“This is a 21-year-old young man with mental health issues,” defense attorney Thomas Hill said in court Thursday.

Adler agreed that Saub needs psychiatric care but did not dismiss the weight of his charges, which include aggravated theft, identity theft and computer crime.

 

[Inthedetails]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericsaub

He forgot to list Scam Artist as a profession.

In searching for the two businesses he lists as "Current," I'm not finding anything online to show they are legit businesses.

I'm not in LinkedIn so I can't see his full profile, just what pops up for non-members to see. Anything worthwhile for the member-only listing?

ETA: Oops...I just noticed the FB for his business: https://www.facebook.com/cascadebusinessdevelopment?pnref=lhc

 

[Inthedetails]

His twitter: https://twitter.com/EricSaub

Eric Saub @EricSaub · Apr 15
Create memories with those you love

Doesn't sound like a whole bunch of fun to hang out with....what did she see in him?!

 

[Tammy N]

Going to take a haphazard guess that his business is a cover/scam.. I find no information anywhere about the business itself, other than this: http://www.oregoncorporates.com/corp/256357.html, which shows ES as the Regitrar, President, and Secretary.

The link to the 'business' on his FB brings you to .. nothing..lol: http://www.cascadebusinessdevelopment.com/defaultsite

then, there is this about.me page: https://about.me/EricSaub. interesting the businesses listed. which are all, again, non-existent businesses it seems?

 

[klily444]

He forgot to list Scam Artist as a profession.

In searching for the two businesses he lists as "Current," I'm not finding anything online to show they are legit businesses.

I'm not in LinkedIn so I can't see his full profile, just what pops up for non-members to see. Anything worthwhile for the member-only listing?

ETA: Oops...I just noticed the FB for his business: https://www.facebook.com/cascadebusinessdevelopment?pnref=lhc

Here is his background on LinkedIn:

President
Cascade Business Development, Inc.
February 2006 – Present (9 years 3 months)
Founder / President
Saube Enterprises, Inc
September 2009 – Present (5 years 8 months)
Vice Chair
Libertarian Party of Oregon
May 2011 – February 2014 (2 years 10 months)
Elected - Precinct Committeeman, Precinct #2
Republican Precinct Committeeperson
May 2010 – May 2011 (1 year 1 month)Clackamas County Oregon

Eric B. Saub Certificate of Election

Executive Committee Member
Clackamas County Republican Party
December 2009 – May 2011 (1 year 6 months)Clackamas County Oregon