VA VA - Jennifer Pandos, 15, Williamsburg, 10 Feb 1987
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I want to believe the parents are innocent, but I can't get over their lies for decades... Making up stories about why she wasn't at Stephen's wedding and stuff like that? I think it's silly but I can understand why they waited to call the police since the note said she would return or get in touch...but after contacting the police they don't inform her family? “Hey, if Jennifer calls or stops by, she calls the police; she was kidnapped or ran away and we want to make sure she is okay”...
No vigils, no search parties, no… nothing?
Surely over the years there would have been more clues but these cases are resolved with a timely response from the police...
either way
rest in peace
No vigils, no search parties, no… nothing?
Surely over the years there would have been more clues but these cases are resolved with a timely response from the police...
either way
rest in peace
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I haven't watched the documentary however one thing immediately jumped out. If all the original facts are true, her leaving voluntarily to clear her head and providing instructions for her parents, why would she purposely write the note with the wrong hand? The whole point would be to convince the parents that she is ok etc. Seeing the note written in strange handwriting could instantly raise the alarm. It just doesn't make sense.
However, it does explain some things. If it was written by JP why does the handwriting not match hers and why the wait to contact the police. Stating that she wrote the note with the opposite hand is just to convenient and makes no logical sense if all other facts are true.
However, it does explain some things. If it was written by JP why does the handwriting not match hers and why the wait to contact the police. Stating that she wrote the note with the opposite hand is just to convenient and makes no logical sense if all other facts are true.
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Going West Podcast just released an episode about Jennifer's disappearance.
In February of 1987, a 15-year-old girl went missing from her Virginia home, leaving nothing behind but a ransom note from her alleged captor. But when a spotlight is shone on her inner circle, suspicions begin to fall on her parents and their potential involvement. But are they responsible? Or was it one of the other strange characters in the case? This is the story of Jennifer Pandos.
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In February of 1987, a 15-year-old girl went missing from her Virginia home, leaving nothing behind but a ransom note from her alleged captor. But when a spotlight is shone on her inner circle, suspicions begin to fall on her parents and their potential involvement. But are they responsible? Or was it one of the other strange characters in the case? This is the story of Jennifer Pandos.
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Yeah, I think Tony was the only one who couldn’t be excluded based on the handwriting and the DNA.
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What Happened to Jennifer Pandos? High School Sophomore Vanished From Her Bedroom In 1987
An unsettling note on the teenager’s pillow read: “Do not call the police. I can easily find out if you do.”
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Have you seen this child? Jennifer Lynn Pandos
Missing From: Williamsburg, VA. Missing Date: February 10, 1987. Jennifer's photo is shown age-progressed to 45 years. She was last seen in the Kingsmill area of Williamsburg, Virginia. She has a small mole on her left shoulder..
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How Cynthia Hill’s ‘Burden of Proof’ Docuseries Unpacked the Mystery Surrounding Jennifer Pandos’ 1987 Disappearance
'Burden of Proof' director Cynthia Hill became intrigued by the case after Jennifer Pandos' brother contacted her on LinkedIn
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Jennifer Lynn Pandos
Left: Jennifer circa, 1987 Right: Age Progressed to age 45 Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance Missing Since: February 10, 1987 Missing From: Williamsburg, James City County, Virginia Classif…
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I am a former resident but did not live in nearby Kingsmill. But visited it often. Yes that is an affluent gated community and would have been at the time of JP being reported missing. Unlike now, at that time IIRC there would likely have been considerable undeveloped lots. Those lots would have been later used for houses or other construction. It is a rather large wooded and gated community bordering Busch Gardens Williamsburg. That is also a large expanse of land with hills and many man-made lakes. Both locations also have areas with access to the James River.
IIUC the ‘confession’ by the individual to having supposedly dissolved her in a trash barrel of acid sounds a little unusual? That would have been a way to ‘own’ the offense yet be no possible remaining evidence? How old was that individual at that time? Where might he have obtained it? Where did he work? Without being graphic, that might not have been a job for a single individual.
One would hope that cold case investigators could develop some working leads in this long unsolved case. Hopefully this is not yet another case of a supposed missing person case not being properly investigated from the outset. And IMO there seem to be perhaps some parallels to the unsolved Jon Benet Ramsey case in Boulder, Colorado - i.e. the odd note left. IIRC Kingsmill Resort also has their own police force unit and I believe did so at that time, so there might be merit in checking in their files from that time as well. The apparent temporarily missing case file in years back also sounds a little odd and worth checking into perhaps? James City County Police and Virginia State Police might be other sources.
I’ve not yet seen the HBO special on this case. So input is based on summaries of the series. See also reference below. MOO
MovieMaker online June 7, 2023 (updated) article by Margeaux Sippell entitled ‘Who Is Tony Tobler, Ex-Boyfriend of Jennifer Pandos From Burden of Proof?’:
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IIUC the ‘confession’ by the individual to having supposedly dissolved her in a trash barrel of acid sounds a little unusual? That would have been a way to ‘own’ the offense yet be no possible remaining evidence? How old was that individual at that time? Where might he have obtained it? Where did he work? Without being graphic, that might not have been a job for a single individual.
One would hope that cold case investigators could develop some working leads in this long unsolved case. Hopefully this is not yet another case of a supposed missing person case not being properly investigated from the outset. And IMO there seem to be perhaps some parallels to the unsolved Jon Benet Ramsey case in Boulder, Colorado - i.e. the odd note left. IIRC Kingsmill Resort also has their own police force unit and I believe did so at that time, so there might be merit in checking in their files from that time as well. The apparent temporarily missing case file in years back also sounds a little odd and worth checking into perhaps? James City County Police and Virginia State Police might be other sources.
I’ve not yet seen the HBO special on this case. So input is based on summaries of the series. See also reference below. MOO
MovieMaker online June 7, 2023 (updated) article by Margeaux Sippell entitled ‘Who Is Tony Tobler, Ex-Boyfriend of Jennifer Pandos From Burden of Proof?’:
Who Is Tony Tobler, Ex-Boyfriend of Missing Girl Jennifer Pandos From Burden of Proof?
Who is Tony Tobler — the ex-boyfriend of Jennifer Pandos looked at as a suspect in her disappearance in HBO's Burden of Proof
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Possible Theory About the Letter
Hello,
I don’t know if this will help, but I have a theory that the one-handed man might have been the person who wrote the letter. If the arm that was amputated was his dominant one, he would have had to relearn how to write with his remaining hand, which could explain the poor handwriting.
When Stephen met him, I believe he told some truths, but I also think he lied about the barrel of acid. He might have said that just to make Stephen abandon the search for Jennifer’s body. Have Police or family considered bringing in professional divers to search for remains?
I don’t think her bones would have been moved far from the house at the time. The scent detection by the dogs under the house suggests that, if the body was moved, it had to be done at night and without a car. They couldn’t have carried a body on foot for 2 km without being noticed. Personally, I would search the bottom of the lake behind the house.
One last thought: if the one-handed man did write the letter, and given that he was homeless at the time of filming, he must have received help to relearn how to write. There might be other letters written by him in homeless shelters or administrative offices, like requests for identity
documents.
Hello,
I don’t know if this will help, but I have a theory that the one-handed man might have been the person who wrote the letter. If the arm that was amputated was his dominant one, he would have had to relearn how to write with his remaining hand, which could explain the poor handwriting.
When Stephen met him, I believe he told some truths, but I also think he lied about the barrel of acid. He might have said that just to make Stephen abandon the search for Jennifer’s body. Have Police or family considered bringing in professional divers to search for remains?
I don’t think her bones would have been moved far from the house at the time. The scent detection by the dogs under the house suggests that, if the body was moved, it had to be done at night and without a car. They couldn’t have carried a body on foot for 2 km without being noticed. Personally, I would search the bottom of the lake behind the house.
One last thought: if the one-handed man did write the letter, and given that he was homeless at the time of filming, he must have received help to relearn how to write. There might be other letters written by him in homeless shelters or administrative offices, like requests for identity
documents.
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A little new to this case, first post on it. Have they tried to do genetic genealogy on the family just in case she really did run away and start a new life? Surely they have looked in to that. It just feels like she was murdered that night, sadly, and I think the misplaced file really set things back for the case. She is probably locally buried but still the dna would be worth a try.
I just finished the documentary. The parents may not have called the police because 1. They thought she would come home, and 2. They were embarrassed that their daughter had “run away.” You have to remember that 1987 was 38 years ago and times were very, very different. They seemed like a private family who kept their dirty laundry to themselves. This same reasoning goes for why they never told their extended family. I did not sense any real emotion over it from either parent in the documentary, which made them come across as cold and detached. Honestly, I was certain the parents had done it until the end of the third episode. As for Charlie May…what reason would he have for making any of that stuff up about Tony asking how to get rid of a dead body? I thought Tony and Cori Toer’s body language was on the defensive from the minute she sat down so close to him on the couch! It was like they had to protect each other…which brings me to my hypothesis. If Jennifer and Tony were seeing each other behind Tony’s back and Cori found out, that would cause problems. What if Tony lured Jennifer out of her house after writing the note that she dictated, only to meet up with Cori and then the two of them got rid of Jennifer together?
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True Crime All The Time podcast just released an episode about Jennifer's disappearance.
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Sheriff's Office rules out Jennifer Pandos as Bear Creek missing woman
The Onslow County Sheriff’s Office has ruled out one missing person as the unidentified woman found in Bear Creek in 1991, following the recent release of an u
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The Onslow County Sheriff’s Office has ruled out one missing person as the unidentified woman found in Bear Creek in 1991, following the recent release of an updated facial reconstruction image.
through DNA and other identifying factors, the sheriff’s office has confirmed that the missing woman from Bear Creek is not Jennifer Pandos.
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I have to listen this the story , but I always felt she could have ended up sex trafficked .
Back then they would run girls and coke from VA to Fl ,. They would get the girls hooked and off they would go. Some come home ,most did not.
At first they would go to work "dancing" . I dunno after that ,my friend got stuck in that life for a minute, and now she keeps a very low profile and has not returned to her hometown in 30 years. all past ties were cut.
Back then they would run girls and coke from VA to Fl ,. They would get the girls hooked and off they would go. Some come home ,most did not.
At first they would go to work "dancing" . I dunno after that ,my friend got stuck in that life for a minute, and now she keeps a very low profile and has not returned to her hometown in 30 years. all past ties were cut.
Jennifer was excluded as being a match to Onslow County UID
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Onslow County investigators rule out missing person as Bear Creek Jane Doe
The sheriff’s office states that it received numerous tips from the community in attempts to identify the woman
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