I'm against the death penalty, and since there is no such thing as hell, I see lethal injection as a pretty easy way out, if you ask me, and don't see the point. If you're gonna have capital punishment, I think we should at least employ the most painful and terrifying method possible: the gas chamber. That would have been a more apt ending for John Allen Mohammed.
GUILTY VA - John Allen Muhammad, sniper murders in VA, MD, 2002 *Lee Boyd Malvo re-sentence granted 2022*
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Funny, I said the same thing to my husband last night! I think it's only fitting these cowards who think they have a right to play God, die by the same means they caused the pain and torture of their victims!
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He knew he was going to die. His victims had no clue. He had a wide yellow streak down his back still as he couldn't even stand and walk like a man to his own death.
Good riddance coward.
Good riddance coward.
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"Welcome to Hell" (by Trace Adkins)
Come on in son have a seat
Don't mind the screams,don't mind the heat
It's been like this round here for a long,long time
We haven't had the chance to meet
But I've heard about you on TV
And I think we're gonna get along just fine
I can't help but notice
You look somewhat surprised
Did ya think son after what you've done
The Lord would let you slide
Welcome to Hell your new home
You did the crime now you'll do the time
Right where you belong
Welcome to Hell end of the line
Your final sin got you in
And now your soul is mine
Welcome to Hell
I hope for your sake you're the kind
That can stand to burn 'til the end of time
'Cause that's exactly what you're gonna do
There's some ots left on the lake of fire
Where we send your kind to retire
And I picked out a nice little hot spot just for you
I've got one last thing to tell ya
And let me make this clear
I don't know what you've been told
But there ain't no virgins here
Welcome to Hell your new home
You did the crime now you'll do the time
Right where you belong
Welcome to Hell end of the line
Your final sin got you in
And now your soul is mine
Welcome to Hell
Your final sin got you in
And now youris mine
Welcome to Hell
Welcome to Hell,boy
You're gonna love it
Wow.. that gave me chill bumps, literally!
My youngest daughter and my grandchildren live in Virginia. They had just moved from Springfield, Va., to Fredricksburg, Va. where they had bought a house. My daughter sat in traffic after one of those shootings. She was terrified as were the children. We were on the phone several times a day. She drives all during her workday. I was so thankful when these two murderers were caught.
These two murderers were judge, jury, and executioners for the innocent people they killed. These two wreaked havoc and fear for three weeks and no one was safe. They have each had a fair trial in our country. The verdict was just in my opinion.
I will not even use their names other than to call both of them terrorists and murderers. I do believe in the death penalty and am glad it has been carried out. Still, he did not suffer as his victims did.
I hate that his body has even been brought back to the state I live in, but I think his ex-wife did it for his children. I saw his ex-wife, his son, and her fiance on LKL and thought they were much better people than I am because I would have left him to be buried in a paupers grave on prison grounds.
OK, I am done now.
MOO
These two murderers were judge, jury, and executioners for the innocent people they killed. These two wreaked havoc and fear for three weeks and no one was safe. They have each had a fair trial in our country. The verdict was just in my opinion.
I will not even use their names other than to call both of them terrorists and murderers. I do believe in the death penalty and am glad it has been carried out. Still, he did not suffer as his victims did.
I hate that his body has even been brought back to the state I live in, but I think his ex-wife did it for his children. I saw his ex-wife, his son, and her fiance on LKL and thought they were much better people than I am because I would have left him to be buried in a paupers grave on prison grounds.
OK, I am done now.
MOO
You're right, Soulmagent, and I apologize for my reaction to and interpretation of your post. I guess having this all brought up again in the past couple of days affected me more than I expected.
And I agree that the killer's families deserve our sympathy as well as the victims and their families.
Still, I'm glad that this terrorist is no longer walking this earth.
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Those 3 weeks were awful. About everyone was afraid to go outside... I hated when J had to go out to go to work... and when they shot the kid going into his school, I honestly hated sending my daughter to school. I knew we were dealing with monsters, when it was all going on, but when they shot that child, it took it to a level of evil that I had never fathomed...
Muhammad's execution is a justice of sorts, IMO...
I was in Wheaton shortly after the shootings broke up...Was going in a government building when all these cops pulled up and told everyone to get back in their car...Was a white box truck in front of us...
Also, I know the guy who actually saw the shooters the night before they went on a rampage...They had shot a guy in the parking lot...the police didn't believe him because he's a known pathological liar...But he did give this account to the media...
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I will never celebrate death no matter how it may come. This man made his choices and at the cost of so many precious lives. He had no right to murder innocents regarding his anger. His family.... I wish them peace. They are not, nor ever should be, put in a place that he owned for himself. They are also victims of his choices.
Godspeed to all who have suffered by one hand of murderous judgement and the result of that decision. I wish heart peace for them.
Godspeed to all who have suffered by one hand of murderous judgement and the result of that decision. I wish heart peace for them.
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I pray the families of the victims have received some amount of "closure" with this. I live here in Northern Virginia and can honestly say the whole community was put through he** at the hands of these two murderers. At least, one is gone and can not ever terrorize again.
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Lee Boyd Malvo is asking for a new hearing to argue for a lighter sentence.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...-requests-a-hearing-to-ask-for-lower-sentence
Malvo was 17 when he and his older mentor, John Allen Muhammad, shot people in Virginia, Maryland and Washington during a three-week period in 2002. Muhammad was sentenced to death and was executed in Virginia in 2009.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...-requests-a-hearing-to-ask-for-lower-sentence
Malvo was 17 when he and his older mentor, John Allen Muhammad, shot people in Virginia, Maryland and Washington during a three-week period in 2002. Muhammad was sentenced to death and was executed in Virginia in 2009.
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This really doesn't surprise me. He was very young when he got caught up with Muhammad, probably not mature enough to avoid getting roped in and brainwashed into these horrific crimes. I'm not sure if he should ever get out, but the sentences probably do need a review in light of the fact he was a juvenile.
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Is there a thread about the unsolved murders in Washington, Oregon, California and possibly another state that were believed to have been done by Mohammed and Malvo on their way back east?
After the execution there was a huge 2-page story about it in our local paper and it mentioned the unsolved murders, but never gave details and I never heard anything more about it.
After the execution there was a huge 2-page story about it in our local paper and it mentioned the unsolved murders, but never gave details and I never heard anything more about it.
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Appeals court grants new sentencing hearings for DC sniper
"RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — A sniper serving life in prison for terrorizing the Washington, D.C., region as a teenager must get new sentencing hearings in Virginia, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.
The 3-0 decision by the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denies an appeal by prosecutors who said they already complied with the requirements of the U.S. Supreme Court, which found in a series of rulings after Malvo was sentenced that mandatory life-without-parole sentences for juveniles are unconstitutional.
Lee Boyd Malvo was 17 when he and his mentor, John Allen Muhammad, fatally shot 10 people they targeted at random in Virginia, Maryland and Washington in 2002.
Muhammad was sentenced to death and executed in Virginia in 2009. Malvo received multiple life-without-parole sentences in Virginia and Maryland....
The appeals panel found that the Supreme Court’s new rules for sentencing juveniles, which must be applied retroactively , were not satisfied when Malvo was sentenced years earlier. Malvo’s resentencing judge must now determine whether his crimes show he’s permanently incorrigible, and thus can be sentenced to life without parole; or that they reflect “the transient immaturity of youth,” and merit a lesser sentence.
“To be clear, the crimes committed by Malvo and John Muhammad were the most heinous, random acts of premeditated violence conceivable, destroying lives and families and terrorizing the entire Washington, D.C. metropolitan area for over six weeks, instilling mortal fear daily in the citizens of that community,” Judge Paul Niemeyer wrote.
“But Malvo was 17 years old when he committed the murders, and he now has the retroactive benefit of new constitutional rules that treat juveniles differently for sentencing. ”...
Malvo’s attorneys, meanwhile, are appealing a judge’s denial of new sentencing hearings in Maryland."
Appeals court grants new sentencing hearings for DC sniper
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"RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — A sniper serving life in prison for terrorizing the Washington, D.C., region as a teenager must get new sentencing hearings in Virginia, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.
The 3-0 decision by the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denies an appeal by prosecutors who said they already complied with the requirements of the U.S. Supreme Court, which found in a series of rulings after Malvo was sentenced that mandatory life-without-parole sentences for juveniles are unconstitutional.
Lee Boyd Malvo was 17 when he and his mentor, John Allen Muhammad, fatally shot 10 people they targeted at random in Virginia, Maryland and Washington in 2002.
Muhammad was sentenced to death and executed in Virginia in 2009. Malvo received multiple life-without-parole sentences in Virginia and Maryland....
The appeals panel found that the Supreme Court’s new rules for sentencing juveniles, which must be applied retroactively , were not satisfied when Malvo was sentenced years earlier. Malvo’s resentencing judge must now determine whether his crimes show he’s permanently incorrigible, and thus can be sentenced to life without parole; or that they reflect “the transient immaturity of youth,” and merit a lesser sentence.
“To be clear, the crimes committed by Malvo and John Muhammad were the most heinous, random acts of premeditated violence conceivable, destroying lives and families and terrorizing the entire Washington, D.C. metropolitan area for over six weeks, instilling mortal fear daily in the citizens of that community,” Judge Paul Niemeyer wrote.
“But Malvo was 17 years old when he committed the murders, and he now has the retroactive benefit of new constitutional rules that treat juveniles differently for sentencing. ”...
Malvo’s attorneys, meanwhile, are appealing a judge’s denial of new sentencing hearings in Maryland."
Appeals court grants new sentencing hearings for DC sniper
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Malvo’s case will now sent back to a lower court for resentencing. The judge can still give him a life sentence if he or she decides that the convicted killer is “permanently incorrigible.” But if the judge decides that Malvo’s actions were affected by “the transient immaturity of youth,” he could get a lesser sentence.
U.S. appeals court tosses life sentences for Lee Boyd Malvo, Beltway sniper
U.S. appeals court tosses life sentences for Lee Boyd Malvo, Beltway sniper
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Virginia's Attorney General appeals ruling to resentence Lee Boyd Malvo
July 6, 2018
"Mark Herrin, Virginia's Attorney General, has filed an appeal against a ruling allowing for the resentencing of Jamaican-born, convicted sniper killer, Lee Boyd Malvo.
Mr. Herring filed the appeal after a Fourth Circuit ruling last month allowed for the resentencing of Malvo, one of two "DC Snipers"....
...the Attorney General has pushed back at the court's decision, saying Malvo remains a convicted mass murderer who terrorized an entire region with his heinous and cold-blooded killings...."
Virginia's Attorney General Appeals Ruling To Resentence Lee Boyd Malvo
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July 6, 2018
"Mark Herrin, Virginia's Attorney General, has filed an appeal against a ruling allowing for the resentencing of Jamaican-born, convicted sniper killer, Lee Boyd Malvo.
Mr. Herring filed the appeal after a Fourth Circuit ruling last month allowed for the resentencing of Malvo, one of two "DC Snipers"....
...the Attorney General has pushed back at the court's decision, saying Malvo remains a convicted mass murderer who terrorized an entire region with his heinous and cold-blooded killings...."
Virginia's Attorney General Appeals Ruling To Resentence Lee Boyd Malvo
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16 years after start of DC sniper spree, future of Lee Boyd Malvo remains unclear
October 2, 2018
"WASHINGTON — The Beltway snipers shooting began 16 years ago in Montgomery County, Maryland, and didn’t stop until three weeks later, when John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo were arrested...
Yet, Malvo’s fate is now in the hands of the U.S. Supreme Court....
In June 2017, a federal appeal court threw out Malvo’s four sentences in Virginia, and ordered he be resentenced, in light of Supreme Court rulings regarding life sentences for juveniles. Malvo was 17 at the time of the shootings.
Virginia has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn the decision by a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit in Richmond.
Similar attempts to require Malvo be resentenced in Maryland have failed.
Now, the Maryland Crime Victims’ Resource Center has filed an amicus brief with the nation’s highest court, supporting Virginia’s request to overturn the order that Malvo get a new sentencing hearing....
16 years after start of DC sniper spree, future of Lee Boyd Malvo remains unclear | WTOP
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October 2, 2018
"WASHINGTON — The Beltway snipers shooting began 16 years ago in Montgomery County, Maryland, and didn’t stop until three weeks later, when John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo were arrested...
Yet, Malvo’s fate is now in the hands of the U.S. Supreme Court....
In June 2017, a federal appeal court threw out Malvo’s four sentences in Virginia, and ordered he be resentenced, in light of Supreme Court rulings regarding life sentences for juveniles. Malvo was 17 at the time of the shootings.
Virginia has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn the decision by a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit in Richmond.
Similar attempts to require Malvo be resentenced in Maryland have failed.
Now, the Maryland Crime Victims’ Resource Center has filed an amicus brief with the nation’s highest court, supporting Virginia’s request to overturn the order that Malvo get a new sentencing hearing....
16 years after start of DC sniper spree, future of Lee Boyd Malvo remains unclear | WTOP
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The Virginia attorney general has filed an appeal with the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn that ruling and the Maryland Crime Victims Resource Center has filed an amicus brief supporting that request.
DC Sniper’s Sentence Could Change With New Appeal
DC Sniper’s Sentence Could Change With New Appeal
