VA - Johnny Depp's defamation case against ex Amber Heard, who countersued #4

[they'll get you]

I cannot get over AH claiming to be brutally assaulted with a liquor bottle “over and over again” and not have any kind of documented injuries to her lady parts. There is just no way that can be true. The bottle with the square bottom was apparently the one used.
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Dammit should’ve been tested for ‘DNA’

 

[acutename]

Exactly…I picked up on that too.

there was testimony I read in the UK trial from JD about texts he has concerning obtaining drugs-
JD denies and then sort of agrees that he obtained drugs for the AUS trip

https://twitter.com/x/status/1281194302077632512

(reporter at the trial, giving line by line recaps of the testimony)

Anyhow, with enough drugs or alcohol, there might be less physical sensitivity.

 

[fred&edna]

Was this entire audio played in court or only parts?

 

[acutename]

In the last thread someone had mentioned that JD and his team went all the way to the Supreme Court (?) fighting for the info from the ACLU (I think I have that correct) .. my question is how did they know to keep fighting for that info if ACLU was refusing to give it to them? It's like they had an idea of what they would find so I'm just wondering how they knew that?

Thanks so much for bringing this up! I meant to ask about this because I somehow missed it yesterday when she brought up Kate Moss. LOVE the fist bump! In the past few weeks I've come across statements from all JD's past girlfriends/wives because they all have spoken up on SM about how gentle and kind he was. I even saw Eddie Vedder's wife say similar supportive statements. Since AH opened the door to past relationships, I wondered if they could bring JD's past girlfriends/wives into court. AH seems so desperate to get JD to look at her and make eye contact. Of course she is failing epically. I would love to see how she might react if to see all the beautiful former girlfriend/wives speak fondly of him despite the fact that their relationship with JD didn't work out and JD smiling warmly at these other women. I imagine she would be seething and super jealous.

I suspect IMO that JDs attys have advised him not to look at AH because he would probably have some expressions that could be interpreted as disrupting or influencing the jury and that would annoy the judge, IMO. Judges can pretty much demand that you be stone faced in court (!) and many times one's face just betrays one's thoughts.

 

[shotgun09]

Was this entire audio played in court or only parts?

I have only heard parts of this in court I believe. They all sound the same after awhile...

 

[Aussieboy]

Yeah, those were hilarious... I remember thinking that it was almost the kind of thing that you could put up on Zillow as a parody of a house tour. "This is how the rock stars party!" or similar. There were literally no shots of Amber - it's like she wasn't there - and unfortunately because the white couch, etc. made its way into the folder, I remember a lot of people saying these were in fact partly or all pictures taken by Ben King... I'm not so convinced about this, considering those random pictures of the outside.

Ha, I was thinking to myself it looked more like she had excitedly started out taking pictures of the outside to send her family - it's a beautiful place, many would be excited - and then maybe, just maybe, when she had nothing else to give as evidence, she tossed them in to try to pad her account?

The Maker's Mark bottle is particularly suspect to me. I wondered for a mad moment if, since it's got all that red wax on its neck as a stylistic crotchet by the Maker's designers; she was foolish enough to think that the jury would be fooled into thinking that it looked like her blood...?? I know it sounds dippy, but considering JD told us the story about her "bloody nose" proof being a tissue with scarlet nail polish days before the bottle made its appearance, I'm not sure it can be ruled out as a thought process of hers...

Oh, I think we'd allllll like to know this... unfortunately, I saw someone (several someones) IMO getting confused, and saying that these were the pictures Ben King took... I didn't believe it for a minute, would have to go back and look at the evidence on his days; but yeah, so he dripped blood, like he said... he naps, she's got four (?) napping pictures, although I think one looks like it might have come from his island and she just tossed it in there.

Maybe the photos outside were taken to prove the location of the other photos, but not uncommon for tourist to take photos of Kangeroos in the backyard. Just for the record, I believe the home belonged to ex MotoGP world champion Michael Doohan.

 

[MsFletcher]

It comes down to credibility and moral character in this trial. I'm anxious to see even a nanoscopic particle of either from AH as the trial continues.

jmo

Sadly I don't think this is quite correct. It comes down to whether what Amber Heard claimed was true. If she can prove that she was abused by JD, then, she wins. I think it is very obvious that even if he was only retaliating, that there was definitely abuse towards her. This is evidenced by damage to property (which constitutes domestic abuse) and emotional abuse (calling her names, etc). This is all that she has to prove, and she will, IMO.

I think JD is very aware he will likely lose this case. I don't think he is doing this to win - I think he's doing it to expose her and to somehow redeem himself through the process.

I'm not a fan of JD or AH, I look at this case quite objectively.
What seems clear to me is that their relationship was very toxic. JD is a tragic lost soul IMO, and he has descended into drug and alcohol abuse. He has engaged in some toxic behaviours. But if I had to adjudicate who was the agressor, I would think it is AH. She comes across as very manipulative, dramatic, disingenuous and the fact she took photos of him in humiliating situations since the beginning of the relationship shows that she was out to set him up IMO.

 

[they'll get you]

Was this entire audio played in court or only parts?

@ 19:30 THAT‘S A REAL MAN who can walk away from a woman who wants to physically fight. She calls him a baby. Pfffft.
Nope that’s a man!!!!
I have no words. Grrrrr

 

[MsFletcher]

I think she is a sociopath and dangerous on that level… she does not care who she hurts. She and the truth have not even a nodding acquaintance and now she is a single mother, with heavy drug addiction history on both sides of the family tree. She could easily ruin the life of the adorable baby who looks just like her as so many people with similar personality disorders have done; she has no known checks and balances on her own continued potential drinking and drug abuse (in fact, having used a surrogate it’s possible she never detoxed; she wouldn’t be worried about it’s effect on the baby) and she wanted to ruin JD’s life.

Personally I do not care if Johnny Depp is a millionaire; he is a deeply troubled person whom I don’t believe deserved this. He has been kind and generous to a fault all his life; stories of him paying his friends’ bills, charity donations, and other kind gestures abound (he’s a crazy insane overtipper); his first wife said he was too kindhearted to discipline the dog; Orlando Bloom said the monkey that played in Pirates of the Caribbean was a nasty animal that ran around pinching people; Johnny wouldn’t let anyone discipline the animal either; he bought North Face parkas for hundreds of cast and crew members out of his own pocket when they were trying to survive a cold monsoon shoot (this has been shared by the crew member he took along with him to transport the stuff, writing on a Quora like site); I think Amber Heard is just the opposite - greedy and grasping. She never spent her own money when his money could do.

I do not like greedy and grasping people and I do not like ungrateful people. Nor do I like flagrant inveterate liars.

She sucked him in and then announced that Elon Musk, a multi-billionaire, was her ‘backup man’ after the multi millionaire movie star. I have no idea what kind of future devastation she could leave in her wake and I’m sure it’s coming, for someone.

I’m also pretty sure there are deceased people galore who would be/were comparatively grateful to have died quickly without long drawn out deaths or long drawn out awful lives; maybe some of them would feel sorrier for Johnny Depp. Money doesn’t fix anything and it certainly hasn’t made him happy; so sometimes yes, I think knowingly ‘creating a hell on earth’ for someone you purport to love and leaving them to wallow in it for years thinking that they are the mentally unhinged problem, is at least as cruel as murdering someone.

Couldn't agree more!

 

[MsFletcher]

I suspect IMO that JDs attys have advised him not to look at AH because he would probably have some expressions that could be interpreted as disrupting or influencing the jury and that would annoy the judge, IMO. Judges can pretty much demand that you be stone faced in court (!) and many times one's face just betrays one's thoughts.

I agree. But also, it would give her power and attention. If she is BPD it is likely going to drive her crazy that he won't respond to her. It would be smart for them to play this way IMO.

 

[they'll get you]

Sadly I don't think this is quite correct. It comes down to whether what Amber Heard claimed was true. If she can prove that she was abused by JD, then, she wins. I think it is very obvious that even if he was only retaliating, that there was definitely abuse towards her. This is evidenced by damage to property (which constitutes domestic abuse) and emotional abuse (calling her names, etc). This is all that she has to prove, and she will, IMO.

I think JD is very aware he will likely lose this case. I don't think he is doing this to win - I think he's doing it to expose her and to somehow redeem himself through the process.

I'm not a fan of JD or AH, I look at this case quite objectively.
What seems clear to me is that their relationship was very toxic. JD is a tragic lost soul IMO, and he has descended into drug and alcohol abuse. He has engaged in some toxic behaviours. But if I had to adjudicate who was the agressor, I would think it is AH. She comes across as very manipulative, dramatic, disingenuous and the fact she took photos of him in humiliating situations since the beginning of the relationship shows that she was out to set him up IMO.

If he loses she’s countersuing for $100mil.

 

[Charlot123]

I haven’t been following the case because it is nauseating. But regardless of who wins, haven’t they both pretty much ruined their careers after this suit?

 

[Kavya01]

I agree. But also, it would give her power and attention. If she is BPD it is likely going to drive her crazy that he won't respond to her. It would be smart for them to play this way IMO.

I agree it was a good move to not look at her at all during her testimony. The lying did not get rewarded with attention that way and that sent a strong message, IMO: " We do not dignify this histrionic hogwash with our attention:"

 

[Diogenetic]

Sadly I don't think this is quite correct. It comes down to whether what Amber Heard claimed was true. If she can prove that she was abused by JD, then, she wins. I think it is very obvious that even if he was only retaliating, that there was definitely abuse towards her. This is evidenced by damage to property (which constitutes domestic abuse) and emotional abuse (calling her names, etc). This is all that she has to prove, and she will, IMO.

I think JD is very aware he will likely lose this case. I don't think he is doing this to win - I think he's doing it to expose her and to somehow redeem himself through the process.

I'm not a fan of JD or AH, I look at this case quite objectively.
What seems clear to me is that their relationship was very toxic. JD is a tragic lost soul IMO, and he has descended into drug and alcohol abuse. He has engaged in some toxic behaviours. But if I had to adjudicate who was the agressor, I would think it is AH. She comes across as very manipulative, dramatic, disingenuous and the fact she took photos of him in humiliating situations since the beginning of the relationship shows that she was out to set him up IMO.

I tend to agree with this on the whole. It is clear that his strategy is -- knowing that defamation in the US is near impossible to prove, especially for a public person -- to win in the court of public opinion. The public opinion strategy is to show Heard, and even more so the other "unofficial" defendant, The Washington Post, as hypocritical.
Depp has to show he never committed any abuse to win in court. But he only needs to show Heard herself was sometimes abusive to win in the court of public opinion, as the public is VERY sensitive to hypocrisy.

Looking at some of the algorithm tools we have at my company to analyze social media trends, Depp, fairly or not, is winning, and to a huge degree, in the court of public opinion. Tiktok data is stunning for this case in terms of differentials of what is supportive of Depps case. Same with Twitter.

I think think the real guilty party here is the Post (despite not being on trial). The Washington Post is not the NY Post, National Inquirer, TMZ or the UK-based Sun. The Washington Post is supposed to be top ten prestige sober news organizations in our country. That they did not bother to do any fact checking, a cursory amount of which would have shown that both parties in this have credible abuse allegations, is stunning.

 

[Diogenetic]

If he loses she’s countersuing for $100mil.

No, they are both in a trap. Plenty of evidence both were abusive.

 

[MsFletcher]

If he loses she’s countersuing for $100mil.

No, she has to establish that the case was 'nuisance' to win the 100m.

 

[Moon1871]

I am anticipating the cross exam, hopefully AH is questioned all about her 'donation pledges' and plans to fulfill them.

Also hope she’s questioned about the reason she took embarrassing and humiliating photos of the man she loved so much, her ‘soulmate’.

And why she laughed at the end of the cabinet-slamming clip, while stating she was terribly afraid of him.

And why she believed her friends were entitled to live rent-free in JD’s million dollar properties.

And why she set up a breakfast table with booze and drugs for a photo.

To name but a few.

 

[Really?]

Was this entire audio played in court or only parts?

I was just coming here to ask this same question..lol.

will the jury be able to hear this ? Wowza…….poor Johnny.
I just listened to the whole tape on you tube. I

i recommend giving it a listen.

 

[Really?]

I cannot get over AH claiming to be brutally assaulted with a liquor bottle “over and over again” and not have any kind of documented injuries to her lady parts. There is just no way that can be true. The bottle with the square bottom was apparently the one used.
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Yeah….that testimony threw me for a loop. Recalling such a horrendous event without missing a beat or tensing up ….I knew she was lying.

if her testimony is as people are saying…..from the movies… etc.
well…..she has pulled this one from the files of the Fatty Arbuckle trial !!!!

moo moo moo

 

[Kiranerys]

This whole story is the plot of Gone Girl. It's so unnerving, IMO.

I've not seen the film,but the book was one of the worst I've ever read!. One of the very few I almost left halfway through, I didn't and persevered thinking maybe it would redeem itself. It did not. I feel the same way about Amber Heard!