VA - Johnny Depp's defamation case against ex Amber Heard, who countersued #4

[fred&edna]

I wonder why people are not demanding the ACLU remove AH as an ambassador?! This should be a thing!

jmo

 

[ZoriahNZ]

Remember when I was examining photo exhibit #1806 and pointing out it was a London-based UK paper, and the front page headline dates it to Sept 2014, not Australia March 2015?

Well an eagle eyed Redditor spotted something else:

Photo exhibit #1805, which is also supposed to be from Australia SA incident shows device plugs/socket arrangement which is NOT like Australian electronic outlets at all.

Supposedly during that torturous SA in Queensland, a wine glass was thrown at AH and splattered on the wall.

https://ffxtrail.blob.core.windows.... Heard/5-5-2022/Def1805-CL20192911-050522.pdf

Note the triangular/pentagonal shape of the plugs. Which means the single prong is at the top.

Well, in Australia and NZ, standard plugs are circular. They do not have a single prong at the top, but at the bottom instead.



Note that they have to have an off/on button next to the socket too.
Power plug & outlet Type I

Compare this to a UK socket:

Power plug & outlet Type G



Here is (yet again) a MUCH higher res version of exhibit #1805 published in the NY post:

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/05/depp-heard-164-1.jpg


Running with my UK theory, I researched UK brand water bottles and look what I found:

Highland Spring

 

[DeDee]

Thank you for explaining! I did not follow the earlier libel case and really knew nothing about this one until a few weeks ago when I happened to see it on here. Since then I have taken an interest in reading as much as possible and watching the trial.

So far what I have watched and read leaves me leaning a lot further to JD's side then AH's .. however, I've also been witness to a BPD/HD person that done lots of damage to someone I love. So maybe it's just easy for me to see right through her lies. IMO

Its definitely sad to see someone as gifted as JD get mixed up in this type of relationship. I agree with that! All I can say is that this type of person is darn good at what they do and it's very hard to get away from them without some serious damage.

I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the trial!

Since court is in recess, I thought I'd tell my thoughts and opinions that align somewhat with those of your own.

When I left my long term marriage, by carefully planning an escape, I was diagnosed with CPTSD. That was almost 22 yrs ago, yet I still have unprovoked flashbacks that can be debilitating panic attacks as they are frightening.

When the trial began with JD on the witness stand, his testimony triggered my CPTSD in the worst possible ways, including inducing insomnia, for instance. However, I was drawn into his world as if it were my own. What he described as his life with AH was what I endured during my marriage.

It was awful cunning and manipulations that kept me confused and unsure. My x used the Classic Double Bind which I knew nothing about at the time of my marriage but it's when he would condemn me then, shower me with a luxurious gift afterwards. "I hate you. Stay away. No! I love you. Come here."

I had no experience with dealing with someone like him but have come to learn he is a dangerous psychopath comorbid with narcissism. He's highly intelligent which I found very attractive. He's a wonderful conversationalist which I found to be quite interesting. I haven't spoken one word to him since I left yet I'm keenly aware that he could find me if he tried. Fortunately, he's contracted chronic and acute Lymes Disease or else I'd probably need a Restraining Order on him.

I made plans to leave after he phoned from out of town one evening saying he held the Glock to his head. I was so terrified I could barely speak. I managed to ask, "What do you want to do that for?" Yet, I did not care. He knew I did not care any longer. I had already disassociated myself from him in order to protect my heart and soul.

I detect a form of PTSD in Johnny, too. His eyes show much sadness and his face displays agony from battles w/ AH. Simply comparing his photos from 5 years ago to today are shocking in how he's changed.

I'd also like to add this information re: a photo exhibit of the wooden bed when Johnny allegedly kneeled upon her back while she was suffocating face down in the duvet. The photo shows a splinter of the end of the wooden frame that she claims occurred by "Johnny's boot trying to get a purchase on it".

Look at the image of the wooden bed with the duvet. I do believe there is a knife on the duvet, just left of center. I do believe AH pushed the knife (box cutter) into the wood and leveraged it in order to make the splinter we see in the photo.



https://lovebylife.com/johnny-depp-...s-weeks-craziest-and-most-disturbing-moments/

Only my speculations

 

[acutename]

It’s clear to see that JD isn’t particularly thrilled to be here.
The divorce was done, the settlement paid, the joint statement issued. Yet a certain “public figure representing domestic abuse” found it necessary to reopen the wounds. There was no need to do that.

JD filed both law suits.... wants his name cleared

 

[acutename]

I'm catching up but I do remember hearing (or rather,reading) in the past Johnny referring to them affectionately that way, cos I rolled my eyes when she said it!.
I also rolled my eyes at the sex drive comment,such an obvious attempt to belittle a man who has been idolised as some kind of sex symbol for so many years . Newsflash, the man is a whole adult older than you not a spritely young buck anymore . That was a low blow,but not unexpected from someone so clearly superficial imo.

FWIW, I heard(sic) the sex comment not so much as an insult, but rather as a
statement that detoxed, his regular bodily functions were resurfacing.

 

[PatLaurel]

Something else I would like to point out: zoom in on the signature on the back of that driver's license. Then go look for JD and AH signatures online. The result will surprise you.

@ZoriahNZ you're awesome!

 

[Moon1871]

JD filed both law suits.... wants his name cleared

Yeah I know, I was referring to the Washington Post article Ms. H (or her PR team) published, years after the ‘fact’...

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Remember when I was examining photo exhibit #1806 and pointing out it was a London-based UK paper, and the front page headline dates it to Sept 2014, not Australia March 2015?

Well an eagle eyed Redditor spotted something else:

Photo exhibit #1805, which is also supposed to be from Australia SA incident shows device plugs/socket arrangement which is NOT like Australian electronic outlets at all.

Supposedly during that torturous SA in Queensland, a wine glass was thrown at AH and splattered on the wall.

https://ffxtrail.blob.core.windows.net/trail/Defendant Amber Laura Heard/5-5-2022/Def1805-CL20192911-050522.pdf

Note the triangular/pentagonal shape of the plugs. Which means the single prong is at the top.

Well, in Australia and NZ, standard plugs are circular. They do not have a single prong at the top, but at the bottom instead.

View attachment 343345

Note that they have to have an off/on button next to the socket too.
Power plug & outlet Type I

Compare this to a UK socket:

Power plug & outlet Type G
View attachment 343347


Here is (yet again) a MUCH higher res version of exhibit #1805 published in the NY post:

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2022/05/depp-heard-164-1.jpg


Running with my UK theory, I researched UK brand water bottles and look what I found:

Highland Spring

Nice work Zoriah! And yes Highland Spring is v much a best selling brand here in England.

 

[mrazda71]

@turaj Would not surprise me either. Codependency.

Ah ... okay

I think that's a little unfair in Depps case.

 

[DeDee]

One of my most impressionable moments in Johnny's testimony is when Camille asked him what he's lost. His response is that he's "lost nothing less than everything."

What AH has done to him and his reputation, with malice and forethought, is criminal. I feel she should be charged and sent to jail for filing a fake RO, for lying on the witness stand and for anything else that could be charged at this stage of her cruel game. However, I don't think Johnny has a desire for retribution.

He's won the court of public opinion in a landslide victory. I've recently watched several of his flicks on Prime, including Sleepy Hollow (1999) this week and Nick of Time (1995) last week. He's the greatest character actor of my lifetime.

Nick of Time was shown at the F White's home on Christmas evening 1996 when the Ramsey's were there for dinner. It's likely where the writer of the RN got many ideas since the theme is the kidnapping of a young daughter by a (political) faction.

Simply opinions of my own

 

[Kiranerys]

Nice work Zoriah! And yes Highland Spring is v much a best selling brand here in England.

Indeed,I've got a whole case of it in the boot of my car!.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

The seedy, louche BDSM trailer park manager, I guess … I think part of it is she’s trying to make this all sound like an out of body experience, like she recalls things in ‘flashes’ and ‘strobes’ like some kind of, well, cinematic distress.


I read the UK witness statement of the poor beleaguered Kevin Murphy of JD opening statement (“please speak to him respectfully”), wherein he says about the infamous Australian dog smuggling incident, saying that any time Murphy tried to talk to AH about how it’s impossible to get the dogs prepped in time to fly with her to Australia, ‘her eyes would glaze over and she would walk away’, so I’m hoping you’re right she won’t have the attention span. She probably waves her hand and says ‘it’s OK, I got it’; and her team is left weakly saying, er, no, “you don’t got it”…

Someone theorized that her stupid weasel word terms, ‘seemed like’, ‘felt as if’, might have been designed to keep her from catching a perjury charge.

I think it’s equally likely she did and said it because, again, this is her idea of what is plausible for all trauma victims; go into a ‘fugue’ state. Said ‘fugue’ is then employed over and over ad nauseam to get her out of any spot; doesn’t even have to be that tight or contradictory, she just knows she needs a loophole and she likes this one.

Yes. I think her loophole is going to be mental illness means she cannot be held culpable.

By not knowing what is real and what is a flashback, being too emotionally unstable and too easily triggered to be a reliable witness of her own lifetime.

Thereby the argument will be that Amber truly FELT like the victim of domestic violence even if it didn't actually happen. A perception disorder.

Can this be a win:win situation ? JD 'wins' as he's make her look completely fruit loop and unreasonable. AH doesn't get landed with a tens of millions of dollar bill as altho he is correct, she is too unwell to be held accountable for her own actions?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

She's done after this trial now anyway, both professionally and personally, but yeah let's pile on more hate.

Isn't it more about doing what's right? That's how I see it. I don't agree in being hateful but I do support the correct and fair thing being done. Perhaps they could gently ask her to quietly resign? Maybe they already have?

 

[khaki]

I wonder why people are not demanding the ACLU remove AH as an ambassador?! This should be a thing!

jmo

just came across this article

The ACLU Has Lost Its Way

The organization now seems largely unable or unwilling to uphold its core values.

www.theatlantic.com

some excerpts:

"But the civil-rights organization’s cringeworthy role deserves closer scrutiny because of its centrality to the case, and because it exemplifies the degree to which the ACLU has lost its way in recent years."

"Once a bastion of free speech and high-minded ideals, the ACLU has become in many respects a caricature of its former self."

 

[PatLaurel]

Ok, I have been watching some of the clips on TikTok (many of which are brilliant), but I heard AH's attorney ask about "amica cream." I have googled the bejeezus out of it, and all I can find is Arnica Cream. Was she just saying it wrong?

Just one more of her lies... AH was not wearing Arnica cream because she can't spell Arnica. And the lawyer didn't even care to check what "AMICA" is...
And btw, Arnica doesn't work overnight nor does it work as a concealer to hide bruises.

MOO JMO

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

One of the body language experts on CourtTV said the balance in her stories are all wrong:

A truthful incident retelling involves 3 parts: lead-in; actual events; lead-out.

AH is spending a whopping 60 percent of her sagas on lead-in/setting the scene; then rushing through the actual events in 20 percent, which the body language expert said is about congruent with the pacing of Jussie Smollett. The expected division of these in truthful retellings, is closer to an equal 33.3/33.3/33.3.

AH's Incident Re-telling Strategy:

80% vast extraneous scene setting ramble that goes nowhere
10% stating 'I remember' prior to recalling an irrelevant pointless detail
10% discussion of type of flooring and it's aesthetics and cleanliness status.

0% provision of a cohesive memory of an abusive incident
0% provision of evidence or witness or helpful lead
0% lead-out with one exception 'then my dog stepped on a bee and we went to the vet'.

 

[steff13]

Just one more of her lies... AH was not wearing Arnica cream because she can't spell Arnica. And the lawyer didn't even care to check what "AMICA" is...
And btw, Arnica doesn't work overnight nor does it work as a concealer to hide bruises.

MOO JMO

That woman is literally the worst lawyer I have ever seen. She said she's trying to make it quicker - FYI - asking the same questions over and over is NOT making it quicker. I feel like she was really hoping for an Elle Woods moment here.

 

[rebelchild]

Since court is in recess, I thought I'd tell my thoughts and opinions that align somewhat with those of your own.

When I left my long term marriage, by carefully planning an escape, I was diagnosed with CPTSD. That was almost 22 yrs ago, yet I still have unprovoked flashbacks that can be debilitating panic attacks as they are frightening.

When the trial began with JD on the witness stand, his testimony triggered my CPTSD in the worst possible ways, including inducing insomnia, for instance. However, I was drawn into his world as if it were my own. What he described as his life with AH was what I endured during my marriage.

It was awful cunning and manipulations that kept me confused and unsure. My x used the Classic Double Bind which I knew nothing about at the time of my marriage but it's when he would condemn me then, shower me with a luxurious gift afterwards. "I hate you. Stay away. No! I love you. Come here."

I had no experience with dealing with someone like him but have come to learn he is a dangerous psychopath comorbid with narcissism. He's highly intelligent which I found very attractive. He's a wonderful conversationalist which I found to be quite interesting. I haven't spoken one word to him since I left yet I'm keenly aware that he could find me if he tried. Fortunately, he's contracted chronic and acute Lymes Disease or else I'd probably need a Restraining Order on him.

I made plans to leave after he phoned from out of town one evening saying he held the Glock to his head. I was so terrified I could barely speak. I managed to ask, "What do you want to do that for?" Yet, I did not care. He knew I did not care any longer. I had already disassociated myself from him in order to protect my heart and soul.

I detect a form of PTSD in Johnny, too. His eyes show much sadness and his face displays agony from battles w/ AH. Simply comparing his photos from 5 years ago to today are shocking in how he's changed.

I'd also like to add this information re: a photo exhibit of the wooden bed when Johnny allegedly kneeled upon her back while she was suffocating face down in the duvet. The photo shows a splinter of the end of the wooden frame that she claims occurred by "Johnny's boot trying to get a purchase on it".

Look at the image of the wooden bed with the duvet. I do believe there is a knife on the duvet, just left of center. I do believe AH pushed the knife (box cutter) into the wood and leveraged it in order to make the splinter we see in the photo.

View attachment 343361

Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard defamation trial: This week's craziest and most disturbing moments - LOVEBYLIFE

Only my speculations

I'm so sorry that you had to go through that and so happy that you are away from it now! The push and pull of these type of relationships is truly mind numbing. They are masters at manipulation.

that definitely looks like a knife on the bed! Why in the world would she do that? Do you think it's to fit her story and then she forgot to move the knife before she took the photo?

 

[Aussieboy]

I'm so sorry that you had to go through that and so happy that you are away from it now! The push and pull of these type of relationships is truly mind numbing. They are masters at manipulation.

that definitely looks like a knife on the bed! Why in the world would she do that? Do you think it's to fit her story and then she forgot to move the knife before she took the photo?

An Attorney done a video on the bed chip incident and has also alleged most likely done from a knife. I don't think it happened the way AH said, if you hold someone down by your knee, you need most of your body weight forwards, if it's on the back foot it will allow the person underneath to push up with their hands and escape. I don't think the video is 100% correct because it's quite easy to chip the sharp corner off on timber as the sample he has is rounded on the corner edge.

 

[fred&edna]

just came across this article

The ACLU Has Lost Its Way

The organization now seems largely unable or unwilling to uphold its core values.

www.theatlantic.com

some excerpts:

"But the civil-rights organization’s cringeworthy role deserves closer scrutiny because of its centrality to the case, and because it exemplifies the degree to which the ACLU has lost its way in recent years."

"Once a bastion of free speech and high-minded ideals, the ACLU has become in many respects a caricature of its former self."

Thank you! This should be shared everywhere! jmo