VA - Johnny Depp's defamation case against ex Amber Heard, who countersued #4

[rebelchild]

Barkin had a brief relationship with Depp on the set of the movie Leaving Las Vegas in the late 1990s. She is listed as video deposition.

Johnny Depp to return to witness stand in Amber Heard trial

Actor already testifed as part of own case against ex-wife

sports.yahoo.com

I just looked up some of her testimony .. and supposedly he threw a bottle of wine on set and there were other people around and she said he did not throw it AT her? I'm going to keep reading! lol

I guess I'm confused as to how that proves anything at all? just to show he has a temper? or that he is the wine bottle thrower in relationships?

 

[squareandrabbet]

I must admit that it did leave a bad taste in my mouth when I heard him referenced,not enough to change my opinion but enough to think JD has pretty bad taste in the company he keeps,but then his relationship with AH already told me that

Some people are fooled for a really long time by friends they otherwise think they "know".

I for one have personal experience with this; and I bet lots of you do too.

I bet lots of people are honestly glad to see Johnny Depp when he walks into a party or through their door; as we've seen from this recent Paul Bettany mess (IMO, clearly his wife said "please don't testify because I'm already going to have to answer a million questions about this on the Top Gun press tour" - she has the thankless Kelly McGillis role this time around - which I'm sure he understands and won't hold against them); it does show us that these friends can, at the very least, flit in and out of your lives.

It's a tossup as to how many friends showbiz types actually get, upon which they can count to have their back in any and every situation; and I'm sure they cling to these people.

 

[Kiranerys]

I just looked up some of her testimony .. and supposedly he threw a bottle of wine on set and there were other people around and she said he did not throw it AT her? I'm going to keep reading! lol

I guess I'm confused as to how that proves anything at all? just to show he has a temper? or that he is the wine bottle thrower in relationships?

Yes,I read the same thing a couple of nights ago.
I think its safe to say he has a temper and history seems to have shown us that he likes to break things (I feel the urge to kick things often when I am emotionally angry so I get it) but it has also shown us that as far as anyone has ever attested it is only ever THINGS and not ever people.
I also get the impression that he is a very insecure person and as such is prone to jealousy and can be possessive,which is is why I think his relationships,with the exception of VP,have all been fairly short term. I believe it could get stifling. IMO.
I think that's possibly the only part of AH and her nonsense that I believe.

 

[rebelchild]

Some people are fooled for a really long time by friends they otherwise think they "know".

I for one have personal experience with this; and I bet lots of you do too.

I bet lots of people are honestly glad to see Johnny Depp when he walks into a party or through their door; as we've seen from this recent Paul Bettany mess (IMO, clearly his wife said "please don't testify because I'm already going to have to answer a million questions about this on the Top Gun press tour" - she has the thankless Kelly McGillis role this time around - which I'm sure he understands and won't hold against them); it does show us that these friends can, at the very least, flit in and out of your lives.

It's a tossup as to how many friends showbiz types actually get, upon which they can count to have their back in any and every situation; and I'm sure they cling to these people.

I could not agree more!

 

[Anxala]

I believe someone can be completely dysfunctional and a drug addicted alcoholic without being an abuser.

No doubt in my mind JD abused drugs. Maybe he even went on benders lasting for days but that is a far cry from beating someone repeatedly.

I also believe you can be completely dysfunctional, a drug addict and alcoholic but still don't deserve to be physically and emotionally abused. I believe AH abused him and despite his lifestyle choices, he didn't deserve it or the loss of his reputation.

^ No maybe about it. They're well and long documented.

This trial is about false claims that hurt everybody in addition to a certain talented individual.

many men in “real life” are hurt and accused of falsehoods.

moo

No it's not, this trial is about Johnny Depp refusing to accept responsibility for his own behaviour and the impact it's had on his career and reputation.

A good read here for anyone who actually cares for facts, particularly ones that detail how much the revelations of his out of control substance abuse in the 2020 libel trial impacted upon his Hollywood career. Huge risk to their bottom line.
We know more than enough about Hollywood 'morality', thanks to the likes of Weinstein, etc etc, to know where its priorities lie, and 'abuse' is barely on its scale of sins.

“He’s Radioactive”: Inside Johnny Depp’s Self-Made Implosion

It wasn't just the erratic and violent behavior that unmade one of the world's most bankable stars. It was his unquenchable thirst for revenge.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Kiranerys]

Some people are fooled for a really long time by friends they otherwise think they "know".

I for one have personal experience with this; and I bet lots of you do too.

I bet lots of people are honestly glad to see Johnny Depp when he walks into a party or through their door; as we've seen from this recent Paul Bettany mess (IMO, clearly his wife said "please don't testify because I'm already going to have to answer a million questions about this on the Top Gun press tour" - she has the thankless Kelly McGillis role this time around - which I'm sure he understands and won't hold against them); it does show us that these friends can, at the very least, flit in and out of your lives.

It's a tossup as to how many friends showbiz types actually get, upon which they can count to have their back in any and every situation; and I'm sure they cling to these people.

Oh absolutely!.

I noticed that Jennifer Connelly had recently joined Instagram and I honestly took it as a subtle show of support,although granted I didn't know she was in the new Top Gun as Tom Cruise irritates me beyond belief so I actively avoid any press or film promotions that he is even remotely involved in

 

[DeDee]

An Attorney done a video on the bed chip incident and has also alleged most likely done from a knife. I don't think it happened the way AH said, if you hold someone down by your knee, you need most of your body weight forwards, if it's on the back foot it will allow the person underneath to push up with their hands and escape. I don't think the video is 100% correct because it's quite easy to chip the sharp corner off on timber as the sample he has is rounded on the corner edge.

This Law and Lumber YT Channel is where I garnered the data about the knife on the duvet and how the splinter may have occurred. I did not intend to take credit away from him. I didn't mention his video bc I didn't think we could post random videos. I appreciate your showing me that assumption is not correct.

Q - Are we allowed to post tiktok videos that include only the witness' testimony without additional commentary? I read the rules on page one but didn't see this point being addressed.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Yes,I read the same thing a couple of nights ago.
I think its safe to say he has a temper and history seems to have shown us that he likes to break things (I feel the urge to kick things often when I am emotionally angry so I get it) but it has also shown us that as far as anyone has ever attested it is only ever THINGS and not ever people.
I also get the impression that he is a very insecure person and as such is prone to jealousy and can be possessive,which is is why I think his relationships,with the exception of VP,have all been fairly short term. I believe it could get stifling. IMO.
I think that's possibly the only part of AH and her nonsense that I believe.

I think that when you start escaping from the world regularly with drugs at age 12 (!), you can almost guarantee that it really messes up not only your body; but your entire psychological development vis-a-vis coping mechanisms.

How you rebuild that when you lost those synapses etc. so early in your youth, I don't know...

one thing I do know is that, based upon everything we have from this trial including the recordings he's given into evidence, I believe him utterly that playing music is his primary self-soothing coping mechanism; and I also believe him that he'd do anything to make sure that wasn't taken away from him.

 

[Kiranerys]

^ No maybe about it. They're well and long documented.



No it's not, this trial is about Johnny Depp refusing to accept responsibility for his own behaviour and the impact it had on his career and reputation.

A good read here for anyone who actually cares for facts, particularly ones that detail how much the revelations of his out of control substance abuse in the 2020 libel trial impacted upon his career.

Johnny Depp has been an abuser of drugs and alcohol for decades,he has also been an exceptional and very professional actor in all these years,he has been hired again and again and again and has made many fantastic and varied movies.

His drug and alcohol abuse only seems to have gotten so out of control that he could barely function since he took up with Amber Heard,that's very telling IMO.

Johnny Depp undoubtedly made the worst decision of his life when he became involved with Amber Heard and I am sure he will rue the day until his last breath but that doesn't make him responsible for what she has put him through,for the lies she has told about him to the world, for the ugly press that his children have not only had to see but are now being dragged into, and yes,for the damage that has been done to his reputation which directly impacts his career.
That is all on AH.

There's no fool like an old fool,but this old fool didn't deserve this.

 

[rebelchild]

^ No maybe about it. They're well and long documented.



No it's not, this trial is about Johnny Depp refusing to accept responsibility for his own behaviour and the impact it's had on his career and reputation.

A good read here for anyone who actually cares for facts, particularly ones that detail how much the revelations of his out of control substance abuse in the 2020 libel trial impacted upon his Hollywood career. Huge risk to their bottom line.
We know more than enough about Hollywood 'morality', thanks to the likes of Weinstein, etc etc, to know where its priorities lie, and 'abuse' is barely on its scale of sins.

“He’s Radioactive”: Inside Johnny Depp’s Self-Made Implosion

It wasn't just the erratic and violent behavior that unmade one of the world's most bankable stars. It was his unquenchable thirst for revenge.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Is there a reason that this entire article seems to be based on "sources" that are not even named? just wondering to be fair though .. I don't read these type of magazines so maybe that's normal.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Johnny Depp has been an abuser of drugs and alcohol for decades,he has also been an exceptional and very professional actor in all these years,he has been hired again and again and again and has made many fantastic and varied movies.

His drug and alcohol abuse only seems to have gotten so out of control that he could barely function since he took up with Amber Heard,that's very telling IMO.

Johnny Depp undoubtedly made the worst decision of his life when he became involved with Amber Heard and I am sure he will rue the day until his last breath but that doesn't make him responsible for what she has put him through,for the lies she has told about him to the world, for the ugly press that his children have not only had to see but are now being dragged into, and yes,for the damage that has been done to his reputation which directly impacts his career.
That is all on AH.

There's no fool like an old fool,but this old fool didn't deserve this.

Don't forget the people who have willingly solicited him to direct him over and over again; not only Tim Burton, but Lasse Hallstrom, Gore Verbinski, doubtless others I am not remembering...

 

[Kiranerys]

Don't forget the people who have willingly solicited him to direct him over and over again; not only Tim Burton, but Lasse Hallstrom, Gore Verbinski, doubtless others I am not remembering...

Yes,and I'm sure he is Godfather to Tim Burton and Helena B-C's kids too? ( I will pop off and check that presently).

I mean that's not usually something people take lightly IMO, and I'm sure I recall reading an interview with HBC in which she talked about what a great guy and friend he is (will check that too).

 

[squareandrabbet]

Yes,and I'm sure he is Godfather to Tim Burton and Helena B-C's kids too? ( I will pop off and check that presently).

I mean that's not usually something people take lightly IMO, and I'm sure I recall reading an interview with HBC in which she talked about what a great guy and friend he is (will check that too).

HBC is hilarious about it; she once casually tossed off that she asked Prince William to so do!

I believe she feels motherly towards JD; and she always interviews as such a lovely person.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Is that normal to call a witness for the defendant that has already testified? Why would they not ask questions when he was on the stand the first time?

IMO they think they've revealed some pretty hot new info over the course of their subsequent questioning, that they did not get a chance to ask him previously.

Either that, or Amber is simply keen to get him back on the stand and squirming under her gimlet eye.

 

[fred&edna]

IMO they think they've revealed some pretty hot new info over the course of their subsequent questioning, that they did not get a chance to ask him previously.

Either that, or Amber is simply keen to get him back on the stand and squirming under her gimlet eye.

I think AH's PR and legal teams might have realized that limiting her time on the stand would be in her best interest as so many find her unreliable (at best)... so they might as well just let JD and others use that time jmo

 

[Chelly]

^ No maybe about it. They're well and long documented.



No it's not, this trial is about Johnny Depp refusing to accept responsibility for his own behaviour and the impact it's had on his career and reputation.

A good read here for anyone who actually cares for facts, particularly ones that detail how much the revelations of his out of control substance abuse in the 2020 libel trial impacted upon his Hollywood career. Huge risk to their bottom line.
We know more than enough about Hollywood 'morality', thanks to the likes of Weinstein, etc etc, to know where its priorities lie, and 'abuse' is barely on its scale of sins.

“He’s Radioactive”: Inside Johnny Depp’s Self-Made Implosion

It wasn't just the erratic and violent behavior that unmade one of the world's most bankable stars. It was his unquenchable thirst for revenge.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

@Anxala Agreed: As you stated, "This trial is about Johnny Depp refusing to accept responsibility for his own behavior and the impact it's had on his career and reputation."

Although AH got sucked in as a sick participant, this all begins and ends with Johnny Depp. My opinion only

 

[fred&edna]

No it's not, this trial is about Johnny Depp refusing to accept responsibility for his own behaviour and the impact it's had on his career and reputation.

RSBM

@Anxala I didn't see that in the Fairfax County legal documents. I thought the focus of the trial was something else entirely. Which link shows that claim by AH?? TIA!

 

[Anxala]

Another reality check on 'Gentleman Johnny' -

Depp may have severed own finger, according to email to doctor, court told

Actor denies attack on ex-wife Amber Heard and accuses her of throwing a bottle at him

www.irishtimes.com

Wass read out a message Depp sent to his doctor at the time.

“I’m so very sad. I cut the top of my middle finger off, what should I do? I’m so embarrassed ?”

Asked about the message, Depp said: “That doesn’t mean to say I myself did it.”

So he says, in his very own words, to someone he clearly trusted, that he cut off the top of his middle finger and was embarrassed about it and asked his trusted doc what to do about it.

Why would he be embarrassed if it was the result of the attack by Heard he went on to publicly claim it was?

 

[steff13]

Another reality check on 'Gentleman Johnny' -

Depp may have severed own finger, according to email to doctor, court told

Actor denies attack on ex-wife Amber Heard and accuses her of throwing a bottle at him

www.irishtimes.com

So he says, in his very own words, to someone he clearly trusted, that he cut off the top of his middle finger and was embarrassed about it and asked his doc what to do about it.

Why would he be embarrassed if it was the result of an attack?

Who was this reading a text between Johnny and his doctor? Also, victims of DV are often embarrassed of their circumstances. In fact, one of the reasons men don't report as often as women is embarrassment. They also don't want to get the abuser in trouble. I would assume that cutting someone's finger off might potentially result in some criminal charges.

 

[Gardenista]

Another reality check on 'Gentleman Johnny' -

Depp may have severed own finger, according to email to doctor, court told

Actor denies attack on ex-wife Amber Heard and accuses her of throwing a bottle at him

www.irishtimes.com

So he says, in his very own words, to someone he clearly trusted, that he cut off the top of his middle finger and was embarrassed about it and asked his doc what to do about it.

Why would he be embarrassed if it was the result of an attack?

This was brought up on cross. You can get general info on the topic if you google shame and domestic violence.