VA - Johnny Depp's defamation case against ex Amber Heard, who countersued #4

[Aussieboy]

Something which I didn't always catch the first time, but which now makes me side-eye upon the re-watch of AH's testimony is that she tells her story from the perspective of the camera a lot. Like she is watching in third person. Like how would she know a boot was touching her back on the plane? Or how Johnny's eyes looked if he was kneeing her into the bed face down and pummeling the back of her head? Quite often when she describes violent actions being done to her, she mimes the attacker in that scenario (pulling hair, punching etc). Several times she slips up with the pronouns, "I loosened my grip", or "when he was walking away". JMO but I think she is fabricating and also flipping roles, pretending to be the victim in incidents where she was more likely the aggressor.

I can't stress enough that multiple audio recordings are out there and easily accessible. It will show just how manufactured the woman on the stand testifying is, compared to (in my opinion) the real AH. Contrast is frightening.

And don't even get me started on her own drug and alcohol abuse issues.

The inconsistencies in AH's stories are a red flag if any, it's like when she tries to explain to the jury that she escaped JD's alleged violence by leaving a room and closing the door behind her, then says JD was trying to get (in), wouldn't he be trying to get (out) of the room to chase after AH? AH then admits In this struggle he gets a knock to his head from the door, well most doors in rooms swing to the inside of the room, the only way JD is going to get a knock on his head is if AH was to force the door inwards while JD struggles to close it, from the inside of the room.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Amber Heard probed for perjury and staging 2016 Johnny Depp domestic violence case: 'Lock her up'

'Amber Heard and her friend Rocky Pennington staged the May 21 crime scene to prove the abuse allegation against Johnny Depp,' Depp's lawyer friend said

meaww.com

Interesting, if true...

The Johnny Depp and Amber Heard saga continues as the actress is now being investigated for perjury in her domestic violence case against the Hollywood actor. Heard had accused her then-husband of physical abuse during their marriage, which UK publication The Sun had reported by calling Depp a "wife-beater".

Depp subsequently filed a libel suit against the publication, which he ultimately lost a year later in 2020. But now, the Los Angeles Police Department is taking another look at Heard's alleged 2016 explosive fight with Depp that had happened in their downtown penthouse in LA.

 

[Kiranerys]

I watched the latest installment of The Behavior Panel as they analysed clips of her testimony. Panelist CH stated a stat whereby someone counted the number of times AH said the phrase: "I remember." She has said "I remember" an astonishing 187 times during her testimony thus far.

Not bad going for someone who finds the more important details,like sequence of events etc, hazy and hard to recall

 

[Moon1871]

Johnny's Instagram following jumped from 6 to 17 million since the start of this trial. And counting.

#TruthWins

 

[fred&edna]

We already know they don’t believe any evidence which is negative about AH is real.

RSBM I've been bewildered, but you're exactly right! I don't think we can draw any other conclusion regarding their "arguments".

 

[raja]

Well I hope the powers to be take a second look at Mr. Depp. He is a stunning actor and his popularity shows. He need to be cast again in roles that he brings to life. JMHO

 

[squareandrabbet]

RSBM I've been bewildered, but you're exactly right! I don't think we can draw any other conclusion regarding their "arguments".

That’s got to be it. I mean, does anyone really think that they are likely to find actual footage of Amber clouting him, or vice versa? Plus the fact that/of whichever party knew they were doing the recording, that is going to affect what they say and do; also, if the other party doesn’t know anything about said recording, which JD averred was never the case for him and his stuff.

plus, I’m no lawyer but if these were recorded in California, regardless of the parts which are uploaded in the Heard case, I think we can be sure the lawyers and judges have heard a portion prior to the admitted clip where this has been negotiated, because CA is a two party consent state… which may, in fact, have something to do with why the Australia tape can’t be played (we know this was Amber doing the taping via a secret camera, because at the very end, we hear her voice get louder, duct tape adhesive disengaging, and the phone clunking to the floor - also, I wonder how long she was up and prowling around waiting for the finger searching team to go so they wouldn’t see her do it?). Maybe one of our Australian readers knows?

 

[TxLady2]

I think he is a great actor and not bad to look at either.

 

[shotgun09]

I got the heebie - jeebies when I listened to her on the audio recordings. Seriously, like Pennywise the Clown vibes. Some truly twisted evil in that one..

RUUUNNNNNNNN!!!!!

 

[wasnt_me]

The photos that include the bottles came from Ben King .. I have spent a good portion of the day going back and listening to all the testimony so far for this incident. While looking at the photo of the bottles and explaining how she didn't realize that was the bottle until the last day or two, she blurted out that she had only just seen those photos because "they" had failed to turn them over .. which quickly got a sustained objection.

Furthermore .. I happen to have a Makers Mark bottle in my adult beverage area .. and I can say there is no way this thing wouldn't have caused some noticeable damage. Especially since she testified that he was being forceful enough that she thought he was "punching her with his fist in the pubic bone". The red piece at the top of the bottle is a hard plastic .. the little drips going down the bottle are loose and not firmly attached to the sides of the bottle (meaning they do not stay in place if you run your hand up and down the bottle) .. and when you twist the cap off it leaves a sharp edge where it was connected at the top.

Her testimony about this incident ..
Her attorney: Did you bleed from the V***** as well?
AH: I did
Her attorney: Did you experience any pain later?
AH: I didn't.. ahh... I wasn't thinking about that and I was heartbroken .. eventually I was thinking that I could be hurt because I was bleeding .. but.. uhh.. I convinced myself that it wasn't broken .. that the bottle wasn't broken or else it would be a lot worse

@Sincerely .. this is not the same incident as the post you went back and liked. After listening to this testimony again, the quote "I didn't even feel the pain" must have come from a different story and if I remember correctly it was possibly the one she testified to as the first incident in 2014.

I went back and looked at the bottle due to your description. What I noticed is that it still has some liquor in it. So....Did she get liquor in her you-know-what???

I hope it comes up on cross.

 

[steff13]

I went back and looked at the bottle due to your description. What I noticed is that it still has some liquor in it. So....Did she get liquor in her you-know-what???

I hope it comes up on cross.

Ouch, sting-y!

 

[wasnt_me]

Could someone explain to me the references to Marilyn Manson and what they are talking about? I've obviously missed out on something important because I can't figure out why they keep trying to make a connection.

I think Marilyn Manson also did a song, a remake of Carly Simon's "You're so Vain." I think that's why AH wrote what she did in red lipstick on the mirror, saying Carly Simon did it better. In her testimony, she said JD was listening to MM at some point during that Australia mess. So maybe it was that song?

 

[wasnt_me]

IMO .. I think it's clear to see by the photo in evidence that that finger is not "cut off" .. it looks like the end of the finger exploded.

If victims of DV have a tendency to want to protect their abusers, then why can't JD be seen as trying to protect AH who crushed his finger? It's apparent that he did not get that injury trying to crush as phone with one hand while trying to back hand her at the same time with other. It makes no sense. Just as it doesn't make sense that JD wrote on the mirror in the en suit of a room that she barricaded herself in. How could JD get in there to write on the mirror if she'd barricaded herself in for the night?

 

[rebelchild]

I think Marilyn Manson also did a song, a remake of Carly Simon's "You're so Vain." I think that's why AH wrote what she did in red lipstick on the mirror, saying Carly Simon did it better. In her testimony, she said JD was listening to MM at some point during that Australia mess. So maybe it was that song?

Oh my gosh .. that makes so much sense! And maybe by her team trying to connect him to spending time with MM it was to try and make it be more believable that JD was the one who wrote that message on the mirror!

 

[wasnt_me]

Oh my gosh .. that makes so much sense! And maybe by her team trying to connect him to spending time with MM it was to try and make it be more believable that JD was the one who wrote that message on the mirror!

Apparently, JD played guitar on this track, which was probably enough motivation for AH to make fun of it on the mirror.

 

[rebelchild]

If victims of DV have a tendency to want to protect their abusers, then why can't JD be seen as trying to protect AH who crushed his finger? It's apparent that he did not get that injury trying to crush as phone with one hand while trying to back hand her at the same time with other. It makes no sense. Just as it doesn't make sense that JD wrote on the mirror in the en suit of a room that she barricaded herself in. How could JD get in there to write on the mirror if she'd barricaded herself in for the night?

And we all know that she was such the barricader

 

[rebelchild]

Apparently, JD played guitar on this track, which was probably enough motivation for AH to make fun of it on the mirror.

oh wow! Like JD said .. she always had to have the last word.

 

[wasnt_me]

Agreed... it's ragged, kind of like caviar eggs (sorry for grossness but it's all I could think upon first sight, haha); and he seems pretty intent/convinced that the ER doctor said "oh no no, Mr. Depp, this is a velocity wound".

I mean, I don't know what that precisely rules in or out (though a knife certainly does not seem to qualify; if it cuts, it cuts straight - maybe a guillotine would qualify - clearly I know only a modicum more about science than Amber Heard); but it's certain to mean something to many a someone; and if his rebuttal case doesn't include one of those hand experts on his witness list to attest to what caused it, I'd be shocked.

Ben testified that when he went downstairs to the bar area, he saw that a chunk of the marble staircase was missing, and also a chunk out of the marble bar was missing. I am assuming that the chunk from the bar was where Johnny's hand had been when she hurtled the bottle. I'm incredulous myself, thinking of how she could have thrown it so hard, but what else would have broken the bar top if not that?

 

[rebelchild]

Ben testified that when he went downstairs to the bar area, he saw that a chunk of the marble staircase was missing, and also a chunk out of the marble bar was missing. I am assuming that the chunk from the bar was where Johnny's hand had been when she hurtled the bottle. I'm incredulous myself, thinking of how she could have thrown it so hard, but what else would have broken the bar top if not that?

I thought the same thing .. I need to go back and look at the photos and see if they ever submitted one that shows the broken bar top.

 

[wasnt_me]

I don't think violence against your own property is abuse, is it?

The question I wonder is what the jury will classify as DV. I know that emotional abuse is real and painful. I know that verbal abuse is real and painful. But are these two things DV? If AH consents to the arguments by berating him for "walking away" all the time, isn't she therefore consenting to what goes on in the "fights" verbally and emotionally? If she is the one who starts the physical altercations (and on a tape I listened to, she and Johnny discussed how she did start them), can she be considered a victim of DV?