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We know it involved crossing state lines, so that really gave the FBI more of an excuse to shove their way in.
With A home invasion a murdered couple and a missing child who's life was obviously at stake you'd think they would have a small army of agents on scene shaking bushes and running down leads. It's obvious the local authorities were overwhelmed trying to both find Jennifer and also make sense of the type of crime they were dealing with.We know it involved crossing state lines, so that really gave the FBI more of an excuse to shove their way in.
Hmmm maybe it they may lost interest or perhaps it be deleted .I ran into a similar issue last week. I knew the Richmond office once had a page about the Short murders. They made a big deal of it when it went online. I looked and looked and it seems to be gone now.
I ran into a similar issue last week. I knew the Richmond office once had a page about the Short murders. They made a big deal of it when it went online. I looked and looked and it seems to be gone now.
Hmmm maybe it they may lost interest or perhaps it be deleted .
I know where that isThis link should take you to the bridge where they found about a quarter of Jennifer's remains:
Google Maps
The coordinates: 36.4103,-79.89605
Or here's the StreetView:
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It's not remote. I know this area.It appears to be a very remote area, particularly the road and bridge where LE believes her body was thrown from the bridge. Remote enough that whoever did this was not concerned about being seen as he parked his vehicle and got rid of the body. My opinion is that it is someone who lived in the area and possibly still lives there, but has kept a low profile ever since. Probably someone who has been through that area more than once in the past for whatever reason.
It's not stoneville . It's MadisonJennifer's remains were found in Stoneville, NC. I see Route 220 runs right past the short house and through Stoneville. 30 miles straight down the highway.
One possibility is the one of the adults was the target and the killer was surprised to find a child present. Perhaps he was hesitant about killing her so took her until he decided what to do. 30 miles down the road he made his decision.
I see the suspect that was in the news so much did live in Rockingham County, NC which is where Stoneville is located.
Just read another old news story that said he owned a trailer located about a mile from where the body was found.
The green circle is only about a hundred yards away from the Dan River. Which is a large body of water.The suspect's trailer was moved to the property at 36.4024,-79.898. You can still see trailers nearby and I assume on the same property. This is about a half-mile (straight line) from the bridge where Jennifer's remains were found.
Here's the body location circled in red and the location the suspect's trailer was moved to in green. The suspects van was moved to this property the day after the murders. I don't know what day the trailer was moved. Note the owner of this property defended the suspect and said he spent time with him on the day of the murders. He believes him to be totally innocent.
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We still nearby. We used to drive right by there. Every Sunday on our way to Eden for skate practice.Wow! I believe I've been in that area before when my uncle lived about 5-10 miles from where she was found. We had to drive thru it to get to Summerfield or Hanging Rock SP. I haven't been there in 25 years, but from what I remember of that particular area this killer was likely familiar with the area as most traveling through would drive east-west on Hwy 58 or I-40 or north-south on Hwy 220.
It's not Stoneville. It's Madison.Jennifer's remains were found in Stoneville, NC. I see Route 220 runs right past the short house and through Stoneville. 30 miles straight down the highway.
One possibility is the one of the adults was the target and the killer was surprised to find a child present. Perhaps he was hesitant about killing her so took her until he decided what to do. 30 miles down the road he made his decision.
I see the suspect that was in the news so much did live in Rockingham County, NC which is where Stoneville is located.
Just read another old news story that said he owned a trailer located about a mile from where the body was found.
Jennifer's memorial sign in on the north side of the bridge on Grogan road. So her body was probably found on the north side of the bridge. There's a small creek. And probably a drainage pipe under the road. Just like I thought.Does anybody know if they ever ruled the fire was the result of arson? If so, that would surely give them a new direction to explore. Possibly new footprints or vehicle sightings. One story mentioned police taking a gas can found in the backyard but, at that time, they didn't know if it was related. How fast was the house demolished afterwards?
Grogan road is where she was foundI live in Bassett, and worked in Madison NC at the time of the murders. I have always thought it was not a stranger....at least to the area.....Some said it could have been out of town drug related, however.....based on the route from the home to the body site..........someone from Rockingham County or knew the area......had to be involved because you don't drop a body.......where it was found....if you are an NY or Alanta drug hitman. At the time, 220 was being four laned. ....there were plenty of remote spots along the highway for an out of towner...to roll a body down a hill off the side of the road in the early morning....and no one....would have seen a thing. Gary Bowman, now deceased and never charged did not do it, based on what an employee and friend of mine told me at the time.....she came to me crying, I took her into the conference room and asked her what was wrong.....she said "they're saying Gary did it, that Gary did it and ran to Canada.....there is no way.........he came and told Doug (ex husband now) that he was moving to Canada weeks before the murder....they are making it like he was running to get away.....he also showed us his van and told us that he was giving his wood working tools to man over on the Grogan road...for helping him out over the years.......he said he was going to YellowKnife to hunt and trap and would be living near relatives..........." She also said she knew he drank, but that he was a fall down silly drunk, but that she had let him work in their house on cabinets and he was around their 11 or so year old and they never hab but good things to say about Gary Bowman.
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Cells phones were out in 2002.The emphasis on the phone lines being cut is indeed intriguing. Especially considering that I think I remember reading that among things LE found in the house was a cell phone. Does anyone else remember reading that? If that is true, it makes me think the killer didn't know the family, or he probably would have known that they had a cell phone. This was in 2002 and not a lot of people had them back then. Just thinking.
He doesn't look like a drug dealer to me . Almost all drug dealers have a criminal record .Hello all, I am new to web sleuths, and really only signed up to get more informed on this case. I'm from Bassett, VA, and still live in the area. This case really hits home, and its devastating that they haven't been able to make much progress. With my job, I work face-to-face with a lot of people in our community here. I've actually had several of my clients tell me they have information that the Michael Short was somehow involved in the local drug cartel. This seemed pretty far fetched to me, but in the past few weeks A LOT of indictments have been handed down for several cartel members that have been living in the area. I am not sure that the people who shared this have any credibility whatsoever, but for such a small area, we have a huge drug problem. So, it's definitely worth looking into.