Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #11

[italianangel2411]

It's very possible that Morgans killer has/had her camera and took it because there are pictures of him on it and could identify him. If I'm not mistaken, even if the memory card has been removed or erased, pics and info could be at least partially recovered from the camera.

If he took the battery from her phone as not to allow the pings then he probably knows a little about electronics or has at least heard about the Anthony case and her cell phone pings.

I really do agree with you! I think that was the reason the camera is missing..I think that there is a reason the camera is missing. There has got to be something on that camera that would incriminate the perp or have the photo of the perp.
Talking about pings..I WOULD IF FBI (WHICH IM SURE THEY ALREADY THOUGHT OF) could....locate all the pings that were in the location of the bridge. They can get a persons of interests by finding whose phone pinged at the same location of Morgan's phone or close to the Bridge OR HOW ABOUT A PING THAT PINGED AT THAT FARM THAT NIGHT!! Wouldn't that be great...a not populated area a 700 acre farm...everyone or mostly has their cells on them..maybe the perp did have one on them without remembering they can get located by finding out who pinged at that farm or bridge that night!

 

[MBLover]

I didn't know. Is there somehow a way we can have a map to show the distance different from where the two different pieces were located.

I believe the phone and cover were found in or very near to the purse. But there's some debate as to where exactly the purse was found. From early reports the phone was in the purse - so that lead me to believe the battery cover was found in the purse also.

 

[MBLover]

I have some question about that camera...

There are reports of MH falling and hurting herself after taking some pics during the concert.

I have to wonder if she lost the phone during that fall or IF she was that intoxicated that someone could have picked up that phone unnoticed when she did fall.

We know the camera wasn't in her purse when it was found...so that leaves the above scenario ~ OR ~

The perp took it ~ OR ~

It was possibly found with her body and we haven't been told that yet.

ETA:

http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-harrington-body-tips-100129,0,952055.story

Gil and Dan Harrington also said Friday "a wealth of physical evidence" has been collected in the remote hayfield 10 miles southwest of Charlottesville where their daughter's skeletal remains were found Tuesday.

Could that mean the camera was among the evidence collected?

 

[p7byrd]

Whomever dumped the body, I believe, accessed the area via Blandemar Farm Drive, as has been previously theorized by other posters much smarter than me on this forum.

Examining topographic features of the map, we see the field that the killer would have to traverse to go directly to the location of where the body was found:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=....987403,-78.619677&spn=0.004194,0.009645&z=17

See the faint "tracks" in the otherwise empty field? That is most direct bee-line from Blandemar Drive to the location of Morgan's body. What those "tracks" mean, I have no idea, but heres something else interesting:

Doing a simple property records search on Aberlarme County website: the building on the left corner, the one that looks like a home, and the one that sits directly on this path? It's empty. It's nothing more than an empty shack with a metal roof valued at less than $20,000, and listed as "Vacant Residential Land".

 

[italianangel2411]

I have some question about that camera...

There are reports of MH falling and hurting herself after taking some pics during the concert.

I have to wonder if she lost the phone during that fall or IF she was that intoxicated that someone could have picked up that phone unnoticed when she did fall.

We know the camera wasn't in her purse when it was found...so that leaves the above scenario ~ OR ~

The perp took it ~ OR ~

It was possibly found with her body and we haven't been told that yet.

ETA:

http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-harrington-body-tips-100129,0,952055.story

Gil and Dan Harrington also said Friday "a wealth of physical evidence" has been collected in the remote hayfield 10 miles southwest of Charlottesville where their daughter's skeletal remains were found Tuesday.

Could that mean the camera was among the evidence collected?

You stating that maybe the camera was found with her remains made me think that is he raped her..mabe he took photos of the torture..god I have writing this. I mean its a sick person so anything is possible. Unless he kept the camera for himself bc he wanted to keep those pictures of her or kept the camera bc he was so into her and needed photos of her to keep or he was in a photo so kept the camera. I do not think the camera has been recovered from everything I read...but I do not think they would tell us if it was found with the remains.

 

[italianangel2411]

Whomever dumped the body, I believe, accessed the area via Blandemar Farm Drive, as has been previously theorized by other posters much smarter than me on this forum.

Examining topographic features of the map, we see the field that the killer would have to traverse to go directly to the location of where the body was found:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=....987403,-78.619677&spn=0.004194,0.009645&z=17

See the faint "tracks" in the otherwise empty field? That is most direct bee-line from Blandemar Drive to the location of Morgan's body. What those "tracks" mean, I have no idea, but heres something else interesting:

Doing a simple property records search on Aberlarme County website: the building on the left corner, the one that looks like a home, and the one that sits directly on this path? It's empty. It's nothing more than an empty shack with a metal roof valued at less than $20,000, and listed as "Vacant Residential Land".

I took a lot and I have to agree with you that I see the tracks which could lead to where her remains were located. I wonder if the perp parked there with her and forced her to walk to the location of where she was located. I personally do not know because I have not seen the property and can't determine if by looking at maps solely.
I would like to hope that LE have their eyes on the perp responsible for this.

 

[italianangel2411]

Whomever dumped the body, I believe, accessed the area via Blandemar Farm Drive, as has been previously theorized by other posters much smarter than me on this forum.

Examining topographic features of the map, we see the field that the killer would have to traverse to go directly to the location of where the body was found:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=....987403,-78.619677&spn=0.004194,0.009645&z=17

See the faint "tracks" in the otherwise empty field? That is most direct bee-line from Blandemar Drive to the location of Morgan's body. What those "tracks" mean, I have no idea, but heres something else interesting:

Doing a simple property records search on Aberlarme County website: the building on the left corner, the one that looks like a home, and the one that sits directly on this path? It's empty. It's nothing more than an empty shack with a metal roof valued at less than $20,000, and listed as "Vacant Residential Land".

Great sleuthing by the way. I wonder how long its been empty.

 

[p7byrd]

I took a lot and I have to agree with you that I see the tracks which could lead to where her remains were located. I wonder if the perp parked there with her and forced her to walk to the location of where she was located. I personally do not know because I have not seen the property and can't determine if by looking at maps solely.
I would like to hope that LE have their eyes on the perp responsible for this.

I was thinking more along the lines that the area has been traversed before, either a local teen "party spot", a place that hunters congregate, etc, which explains the worn path I seem to see on the map. I think the fact that the whole area of land & that building stand empty, seems to suggest the killer(s) knew exactly that nobody lived in that building, and thus was not afraid of detection.

 

[italianangel2411]

I was thinking more along the lines that the area has been traversed before, either a local teen "party spot", a place that hunters congregate, etc, which explains the worn path I seem to see on the map. I think the fact that the whole area of land & that building stand empty, seems to suggest the killer(s) knew exactly that nobody lived in that building, and thus was not afraid of detection.

Okay, yea I can see that. I wonder if it would be a longer walk from that way or the front driveway of the farm to get to the location of her remains.

 

[websurfer]

Thank you. And add that at a metal concert girls that look and dress like Morgan are a dime a dozen.

There has been no publicly released rock solid info that Morgan was ever at the concert that night. I'm not saying she wasn't there. But alot of people are stating the sightings and eyewitness accounts as fact.

Even more spooky , nobody has definately said she was in the building...
I am thinking this:

She and her friends took that route near the farm where she was later found dead.
They perhaps had smokes and drinks.
Went up to that location followed by another car full of males.
Perhaps feeling safe MH decided to stay and party while her friends went along to the concert.
When she did not show later they panicked and all this became the mystery it is today..
again...
I have gut feeling she never made it to the concert.
The people she accepted the ride with never intended to get her there...
foul play indeed.

So let's say there was a meeting in this area?
They were supposed to hang out and party.
It got out of hand and this is the end resault..
what does that theory seem to you?

Till I read or see proof she was at the concert to begin with I am saying she never made it to the place..
she and her friends met males and partied here she did not go to the concert I bet..
what driving route did the bunch of them take anyway?
has LE questioned all of them about time they left?
Approximate time of arrival to the concert?

Why didn't all of them go to the bathroom at once like all friends do in a group?And wait for everyone?

F I S H Y story

not that they have done anything wrong by not waiting for her, but nonetheless, MH is dead and they are alive because they stuck together as a group...:rose:

 

[panthera]

I don't think she accidently got hurt and died from hypothermia. I think she was injured from someone hurting her and I think rape is quite plausible in this case and for her not to be with her purse and cell phone gives me this conclusion.

I believe her parents know a lot more than we do and from what they said yesterday, it seems she was killed that night. Even mentioning the possibility that she died before the concert was over doesn't indicate hypothermia to me at all. MOO

 

[websurfer]

Great sleuthing by the way. I wonder how long its been empty.

Who would just take a chance nobody would already be out there?
The person had to have known the routine and all of the owners, workers,
who all works there?

 

[p7byrd]

Okay, yea I can see that. I wonder if it would be a longer walk from that way or the front driveway of the farm to get to the location of her remains.

Definitely from the front of the Anchorage Farm access road. It's 1 and 1/2 the distance, and the perp would risk detection coming in through Anchorage Farms, since it's a residence. This other, more direct path to the body's location is through a parcel of land with an unoccupied building.

 

[panthera]

You stating that maybe the camera was found with her remains made me think that is he raped her..mabe he took photos of the torture..god I have writing this. I mean its a sick person so anything is possible. Unless he kept the camera for himself bc he wanted to keep those pictures of her or kept the camera bc he was so into her and needed photos of her to keep or he was in a photo so kept the camera. I do not think the camera has been recovered from everything I read...but I do not think they would tell us if it was found with the remains.

I'd actually be quite shocked if she hadn't been sexually assaulted, as I can't think of any other reason for someone to kill her and dump her in that field. If the camera hasn't been found, I also have a feeling his picture may have been on the camera or as you said, possibly he photographed his crime. MOO

 

[Waddles]

Definitely from the front of the Anchorage Farm access road. It's 1 and 1/2 the distance, and the perp would risk detection coming in through Anchorage Farms, since it's a residence. This other, more direct path to the body's location is through a parcel of land with an unoccupied building.

But a little lower down Anchorage farm road (so not yet up to the house and maybe not alerting residents) still gets you access to the exact spot she was found across the fields... am I looking wrong?

 

[Waddles]

where is the parcel of land with the unoccupied building, am getting lost on this map

 

[p7byrd]

But a little lower down Anchorage farm road (so not yet up to the house and maybe not alerting residents) still gets you access to the exact spot she was found across the fields... am I looking wrong?

See that "X" of trees located on the far left margin in that map you linked? Morgan's body was found to the left of that location, off the map, and closer to the Blandemar Estates.

 

[SuziQ]

It's very possible that Morgans killer has/had her camera and took it because there are pictures of him on it and could identify him. If I'm not mistaken, even if the memory card has been removed or erased, pics and info could be at least partially recovered from the camera.

If he took the battery from her phone as not to allow the pings then he probably knows a little about electronics or has at least heard about the Anthony case and her cell phone pings.

AFAIK, a phone without a battery will not ping. Interesting about pics staying on a camera though.

 

[GourmetSoy]

respectfully snipped:

We know the camera wasn't in her purse when it was found...so that leaves the above scenario ~ OR ~

The perp took it ~ OR ~

It was possibly found with her body and we haven't been told that yet.

ETA:

http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-harrington-body-tips-100129,0,952055.story

Gil and Dan Harrington also said Friday "a wealth of physical evidence" has been collected in the remote hayfield 10 miles southwest of Charlottesville where their daughter's skeletal remains were found Tuesday.

Could that mean the camera was among the evidence collected?

and they're keeping it quiet as to not let the perp know what they have on him! I hope they have that camera!

 

[rickh]

by looking at the map i would say she was brought in from blandemar road side.too much risk the other way.person definetly knows area.probably doesnt live close by.would draw to much attention to themselves.i still believe this was a well thought out plan.not just a something went wrong.just my thoughts