Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #11

[SuziQ]

I got it from post #62 of this thread.

Where did they originate from? Did someone flyover? The copyright says Image 2010 Commonwealth of Virginia 2010. Hmmmm.

Dang good pics though.

 

[21merc7]

Where did they originate from? Did someone flyover? The copyright says Image 2010 Commonwealth of Virginia 2010. Hmmmm.

Dang good pics though.

I noticed that too.

Can anyone make the photo larger and clearer? I could make it larger, but it was just grainy. TIA!

 

[LadyBug99]

In her friends defense, maybe Morgan never asked for her keys. Maybe she was so intoxicated that the DD for the night did not think it would have been a good idea to give them to her. Of course hindsight is 20/20 and her friends wished they had used the "buddy system", gave her the keys or even left the concert when she was not allowed back in.

I'm not saying all young adults/teenagers are selfish, but most are. At the time they were all drinking and/or on drugs. With MAYBE the exception of the DD, but even he may have had some drinks before the show. At that point in time all they cared about was seeing the concert. Not being concerned with their drunk friend that is outside. I know that this sounds horrible but coming from someone that has been to numerous concerts and college parties, kids behavior is a lot worse than people think.

I think people assume that she had something slipped in her drink or someone forced her tell her friends that she was ok, are just looking for someone/something to blame.

This is a horrible tragedy and kids should learn from it, but let's face it...Morgan is partially to blame for the events that happened that night. NOT WHAT HAPPENED TO HER but how she was put in the position where it could happen.

She got into the car with the wrong person that night. Maybe someone she knows...maybe not.

I wonder if they will find evidence in the field of that being the crime scene. I hope there is enough evidence to lead LE to the killer quickly!

 

[CementPond]

I first saw them and posted them last night from the Morgan site. If anyone has a membership over there maybe you could go ask the person there who originally posted them?

Where did they originate from? Did someone flyover? The copyright says Image 2010 Commonwealth of Virginia 2010. Hmmmm.

Dang good pics though.

 

[evelyn24]

“We are happy to know that Morgan very likely … did not live through the time of the concert,” Gil Harrington said. “She was a long time in that field. I am happy that she was not alive long enduring unspeakable things.”
The likely absence of significant concrete evidence, however, may not prevent law enforcement officials from narrowing in on suspects and advancing the investigation. Kopacki said most criminal cases today like Harrington’s do not rely on physical evidence.
“Most cases are circumstantial cases, which can be just as strong, but nowadays are hard to get through court,” he said.

If the autopsy indicates that there was any sexual contact between Harrington and her killer, the likelihood the two knew each other beforehand increases significantly, Kopacki said. Police officials have not yet released details regarding whether the killer made any such advances toward Harrington."

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2010/01/28/state-police-officials-identify-remains-as-harrington%E2%80%99s/

Two important things here..

How would the Harringtons know that Morgan was murdered before the end of the concert when an autopsy hasn't been completed and COD hasn't been determined yet?
How would it be possible to determine that she was dead before the end of the concert without having a COD or autopsy? The body was ID'd by Dentals.

Kopacki mentions in the article that most cases nowadays are circumstantial, yet in Morgans case it is mentioned there is a lack of physical evidence. Coupled with the fact that most circumstantial cases can be hard to get through court, especially if one is wealthy enough to hire a powerful lawyer.

LE may need more evidence to have a good solid case against the perp(s) so that they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and that they do see prison time, and that some wealthy brand name attorney won't get the perp(s) off. That may be why we see this case taking awhile, as well as the huge reward sum offered for information $150,000; if the perp is wealthy or comes from a powerful wealthy family.


The land where Morgan's body was found just looks like regular farmland to me, it's possible one strong individual could have lugged her there, i'm sure she didn't weigh much. The property also seems to be surrounded in barbed wire, or at least that area, however one can just throw a blanket over the wire and then hop over. Or go around it, if they know of another way.

I hope LE can connect a perp to the area; did he ever have family or friends around there? And then back to how he would know Morgan, school, work, parents' work? Friend of her friends?

Kopacki sounds like a big fool. Most physical evidence like DNA and fingerprints can be circumstantial evidence and MOST cases in court are based on circumstantial evidence, which is not hard to get through courts at all. And sexual contact doesn't mean they knew one another before that night, how about a thing called stranger rape?
Sheesh.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Circumstantial+Evidence

Check out the above link for the definition of circumstantial evidence.

"In addition, much Scientific Evidence is circumstantial, because it requires a jury to make a connection between the circumstance and the fact in issue. For example, with fingerprint evidence, a jury must make a connection between this evidence that the accused handled some object tied to the crime and the commission of the crime itself."

 

[p7byrd]

Where did they originate from? Did someone flyover? The copyright says Image 2010 Commonwealth of Virginia 2010. Hmmmm.

Dang good pics though.

2010 Commonwealth of Virginia is what appears on Google earth. I think whomever composed the photo took it from helicopter news footage and juxtaposed the image on Google Earth.

The complete set can be found here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pancamo/sets/72157623174323621/

I don't know where the poster "Waddles" got these from, but these are the photos being examined at Find Morgan forums.

 

[mahoneys07]

Over on the find morgan site theres a thread about odd behaviors theres a person on there talking about a specific potential suspect does anyone know who that is? I looked around and cannot find anything to tell me who it may be to research farther. If anyones knows please let me know this is bugging me really bad.

 

[mahoneys07]

is it me or does that photo look like its ben cut,cropped and altered? The ground is even shaded slightly different

 

[p7byrd]

Over on the find morgan site theres a thread about odd behaviors theres a person on there talking about a specific potential suspect does anyone know who that is? I looked around and cannot find anything to tell me who it may be to research farther. If anyones knows please let me know this is bugging me really bad.

Go to Virginia sex offender registry site, and do a search where the body was found. Examine the folks who come up, and you can see for yourself who they are talking about.

 

[mahoneys07]

are the talking about EH? I assumed it was someone else.

 

[January.]

That photo has definitely been altered. It looks as if the aerial photo was placed over a Google Earth satellite image to show where her remains were found.

 

[CementPond]

Yeah but these ones, found at this link below, were posted first. They look to have been taken from news stills, I'm assuming. The other, bigger pics, just look like someone took the original and pasted it to the grid/map in order to show where it was, like you said.

http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1995&page=16

That photo has definitely been altered. It looks as if the aerial photo was placed over a Google Earth satellite image to show where her remains were found.

 

[Elphaba]

No, you can't see land in real-time in Google Earth (just weather, I think)... that image looks to be a composite.

 

[nursebeeme]

The whole "why did she go outside?" part of this has always been a mystery.There is a total non-negotiable no re entry policy clearly spelled out at JPJ arena. There is a readily visible smoking area that keeps you within the arena, there are numerous bathrooms all over. Nobody has ever been able to really figure out why she left the building.Likewise, nobody here after 3 months has ever really figured out why the "friends" didn't bring her HER OWN keys.

I am still catching up... but ITA!!!! And knowing she couldn't get back in and it was cold outside... they should have taken her the keys so she could at least sit in the car to wait! It sounds to me like they were all wasted and using poor judgement at the time (thusly why it makes no sense)

 

[Elphaba]

On the Find Morgan site, the thread with the images, someone said they saw the pics in a video (describing what was in the pics on the video)... then someone posted the pic (I guess from the video) and then it looks like they superimposed the image over the google earth layout.

Pic mystery solved...

 

[January.]

Yeah but these ones, found at this link below, were posted first. They look to have been taken from news stills, I'm assuming. The other, bigger pics, just look like someone took the original and pasted it to the grid/map in order to show where it was, like you said.

http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1995&page=16

Right, I was referring to the ones that were linked here on the Flickr site, I hadn't seen the ones at Find Morgan.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pancamo/4310134897/in/set-72157623174323621/

 

[Wes]

are the talking about EH? I assumed it was someone else.

I think it is someone else they are talking about. Someone that was very active on these sites early on. There were a couple of them back then I wondered about. WT, JV and NK are three off the top of my head. Not sure if any of them are who is being referred to now though. I think the last one I mentioned was just strange.

 

[p7byrd]

On the Find Morgan site, the thread with the images, someone said they saw the pics in a video (describing what was in the pics on the video)... then someone posted the pic (I guess from the video) and then it looks like they superimposed the image over the google earth layout.

Pic mystery solved...

It was never a mystery to begin with. See post 88.

 

[carbuff]

That would explain the smirk on Lt. Rader's face during the press conference when he was talking about forensic evidence.

Mrs. Harrington's comments have always sounded to me like they had a very specific person in mind as the one who abducted Morgan.

As for the airplane theory -- leaving aside issues of whether it could be done, I would think a low-flying airplane in the middle of the night would have attracted more attention than a truck or ATV. JMO.

 

[jokie7348]

Responding to Isabelle's post about the friends getting interviewed by LE:

I agree, and I am also thinking that the whole story about what happened in the concert arena might be just that...a story. Maybe the friends actually knew that Morgan might leave with someone, or had that knowledge when the last cell call was made to them. Either way, you are right. I think LE will question them thoroughly. Hope they give some definitive answers.

Thinking of Morgan's family today. The strong religious faith of her parents will surely get them through this tragedy. I really felt sad for her brother, Alex, yesterday during the press conference on the bridge. His name was not mentioned, that I heard, and he clearly looked like he was suffering. I am especially concerned for him.
JMOO