Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #11

[newshound6]

One more thing..only a local would understand that piece of private property.I can't picture an outsider deciding to enter a parcel of private property not knowing who lived there,security systems,dogs, etc...

 

[Waddles]

I believe this very strongly-I think that whoever put MH in that location is a local who realized she would not be found for quite a while- read Mr. Bass saying the only reason he saw her even when he was right there, is because he was up on the tractor.I think we are mistaken to view this like "she was just thrown in the middle of a field" there was a real chance she could have never been found there.Also..until we get the cause of death from the ME I'm not ready to TOTALLY discount accidental death.

Yes the latter has been at the back of my mind yet she still would have been abandoned by someone and left to die -she can't have got all the way out there on her own, she was with someone

 

[darlin gal]

The Harringtons were able to view the remains, which Gil described as “lovely bones” — a reference to the best-selling book by Alice Sebold about a murdered 14-year-old girl. The book has been made into a movie.“I have reviewed images of my daughter from her prenatal ultrasounds to looking at her empty eye sockets of her cranium,” Gil said calmly. “Yes, I have seen lovely bones. Lovely girl.”
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35141340/ns/today-today_people/

Article and video from the Today show this morning.

Heartbreaking!

 

[amysmom]

The picture shows how gutted the house is...could be just nothing but could be something..

Such a BIG house for only 4 students ya think?

3 girls/1 guy who just happen to be a week away from moving out is suspicious but surely LE knows by now if fire was set..One poster said it was ruled an "accident" but another claims they checked their sources & it said no such thing :waitasec:

Like the KC case they will find out how long the body had been in that spot so until they/we know I suppose it's possible it could've been some place else until recently like on this other property? But kinda hard to move all the remains in that condition even if placed in a bag & then dumped out (a bag sitting right there would def be seen at some point) but surely CSI could tell at first sight if that were the case so I don't honestly believe this to be a plausable theory at all!

 

[LadyBug99]

I don't know why everyone has a hard time believing that Morgan strayed from the group to use the bathroom. Yes, many times I will go with a group of friends to the bathroom IF WE ALL HAVE TO GO. I certainly wouldn't want my friends to miss the concert to walk with me and stand in line if they didn't need to use the restroom as well.

You are trying to enjoy a show. Not sit on line while your friend goes to the bathroom. If I'm at a concert, ballgame or event I don't want to miss it to escort one of my friends to the bathroom, but that does not make me a bad friend. Also, if you are consuming a lot of alcohol in a relatively short period of time (pre-gamming)..you are going to need to use the bathroom more frequently than usual. If the whole group got up and walked everyone to the bathroom every time someone needed to go, no one would have seen the concert!

 

[nursebeeme]

Sorry if this was already posted!

Spot Where Harrington Body Found Scrutinized.

http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/n...here_harrington_body_found_scrutinized/51599/


Edited to add: Ooops. Someone did post it already. Sorry.

thank you for the link.. I also took from it that

1) he has no farm employees and

2) the field is a pasture, not a hayfield, with tall grass that was tamped down by the heavy snows. He occasionally bush hogs the grass in the pasture.

 

[amysmom]

I don't think anyone connected the farm are responsible for Morgan's death.

I believe the suspect may live nearby and knows that the backside of the farm is not worked much.

I also believe they put her in the tall grass instead of the woods because they knew if they put her in the wooded area her body may have been found earlier by hunters.

JMO

There must be Bass extended family & friends (who may know the farm pretty well) so it's hard for me to just rule them out..Wish I could cos the owner (from what I've seen of him) would be even more devastated.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

There must be Bass extended family & friends (who may know the farm pretty well) so it's hard for me to just rule them out..Wish I could cos the owner (from what I've seen of him) would be even more devastated.

Mr Bass did not know Morgan so he has no personal attachment to her such as her family and friends would. I do think he feels very sorry for her family. I have found him very genuine, honest, forthright and he has tried to help LE every way he can.

Anyone living around this area would be familiar with his farm. The police thinks the suspects accessed his land by coming up the backside that is closer to the subdivision.

imo

 

[amysmom]

Mr Bass did not know Morgan so he has no personal attachment to her such as her family and friends would. I do think he feels very sorry for her family. I have found him very genuine, honest, forthright and he has tried to help LE every way he can.

Anyone living around this area would be familiar with his farm. The police thinks the suspects accessed his land by coming up the backside that is closer to the subdivision.

imo

It appears to me Mr Bass is devastated her dead/murdered body was dumped on his property & had been there for so many months..He also saw her remains which I doubt he'll ever get over..For these reasons I do believe he feels a deep connection (& devastation) but naturally not in the same sense as her family & friends.

ITA it's most likely it's not anyone associated with his family in any way but if it were he'd be crushed..I'm very sure of that.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I believe this very strongly-I think that whoever put MH in that location is a local who realized she would not be found for quite a while- read Mr. Bass saying the only reason he saw her even when he was right there, is because he was up on the tractor.I think we are mistaken to view this like "she was just thrown in the middle of a field" there was a real chance she could have never been found there.Also..until we get the cause of death from the ME I'm not ready to TOTALLY discount accidental death.

Sadly, due to her body being out in the elements for 101 days I highly doubt the ME will be able to determine how she died. Unless she was shot, bludgeoned or stabbed. If she was strangled they may find her hyoid bone fractured but if not I do not think after this long they will be able to determined how she died.

I don't think the ME is going to rule her death accidental though.

imo

 

[amysmom]

Former Greene Sheriff Morris dead by apparent suicide

http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/n...e_sheriff_morris_in_critical_condition/51585/

It didn't take long for the rumors (not gonna post) to FLY! Some claim a connection that I don't see (not even with the S name) but it was bound to happen..It always does!

ETA--So SORRY for all the previous duplicates I just deleted..WS is acting up for me today..Anyone else?

 

[Ghostmaster]

Two things to consider in regard to Morgan’s body being found. In Charlottesville the night of October 17th there was a new moon. That means it would be pitch black on the farm where she was found. If someone placed her there that night they would have had to have had some kind of light, flashlights, etc.

Secondly, that date falls during deer hunting season. The farmer, Mr. Bass has said he gave permission to 4 individuals to hunt on his farm last year. His farm is surrounded by other farms which would have had hunters on them. First light for hunting would have been a few minutes after 7 am on the morning of Oct. 18th.

If someone placed the body in the field that night they would need lights, which would make their chances of being seen greatly increased and they would need to be gone by 5:30 am or so as hunters always arrive early to take up their stand (get into place) prior to sunup in order ensure an advantage over the deer.

Maybe the body wasn’t placed there that night. Locals would know all of this which makes me wonder if they waited until after deer season was over and they had a night with some moon light to dump the body. (Assuming the body was placed there at night and by a local, of course)

http://www.wunderground.com/history...ttesville&req_state=VA&req_statename=Virginia

 

[amysmom]

Two things to consider in regard to Morgan’s body being found. In Charlottesville the night of October 17th there was a new moon. That means it would be pitch black on the farm where she was found. If someone placed her there that night they would have had to have had some kind of light, flashlights, etc.

Secondly, that date falls during deer hunting season. The farmer, Mr. Bass has said he gave permission to 4 individuals to hunt on his farm last year. His farm is surrounded by other farms which would have had hunters on them. First light for hunting would have been a few minutes after 7 am on the morning of Oct. 18th.

If someone placed the body in the field that night they would need lights, which would make their chances of being seen greatly increased and they would need to be gone by 5:30 am or so as hunters always arrive early to take up their stand (get into place) prior to sunup in order ensure an advantage over the deer.

Maybe the body wasn’t placed there that night. Locals would know all of this which makes me wonder if they waited until after deer season was over and they had a night with some moon light to dump the body. (Assuming the body was placed there at night and by a local, of course)

http://www.wunderground.com/history...ttesville&req_state=VA&req_statename=Virginia

TY! The perp would need some kind of light (even with a full moon) & what IDIOT would do something so DUMB especially when it looks like he thought of a place to dump her where she may never have been found.

 

[Trino]

Two things to consider in regard to Morgan’s body being found. In Charlottesville the night of October 17th there was a new moon. That means it would be pitch black on the farm where she was found. If someone placed her there that night they would have had to have had some kind of light, flashlights, etc.

Secondly, that date falls during deer hunting season. The farmer, Mr. Bass has said he gave permission to 4 individuals to hunt on his farm last year. His farm is surrounded by other farms which would have had hunters on them. First light for hunting would have been a few minutes after 7 am on the morning of Oct. 18th.

If someone placed the body in the field that night they would need lights, which would make their chances of being seen greatly increased and they would need to be gone by 5:30 am or so as hunters always arrive early to take up their stand (get into place) prior to sunup in order ensure an advantage over the deer.

Maybe the body wasn’t placed there that night. Locals would know all of this which makes me wonder if they waited until after deer season was over and they had a night with some moon light to dump the body. (Assuming the body was placed there at night and by a local, of course)

http://www.wunderground.com/history...ttesville&req_state=VA&req_statename=Virginia

Re: hunting...

ASSUMING, of course, there was anyone hunting on that actual morning. Most hunters have jobs and other things going in their lives. They don't hunt every day. With only 4 hunters given permission to hunt, there's nothing to indicate any of them were there the next a.m.

 

[MBLover]

Isn't it illegal to hunt on a Sunday - which the next day would have been?

ETA: Per DGIF site:

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/HUNTING/regulations/general.asp

It is unlawful to:
Hunt wild birds and wild animals with firearms or other weapons on Sunday, except on licensed shooting preserves. Raccoon hunters may hunt until 2:00 a.m. Sunday mornings.

So there should have been no hunters hunting after sundown on Sat. and not before 1/2 hr. before sunrise on Monday.

 

[newshound6]

Isn't it illegal to hunt on a Sunday - which the next day would have been?

ETA: Per DGIF site:

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/HUNTING/regulations/general.asp

It is unlawful to:
Hunt wild birds and wild animals with firearms or other weapons on Sunday, except on licensed shooting preserves. Raccoon hunters may hunt until 2:00 a.m. Sunday mornings.

So there should have been no hunters hunting after sundown on Sat. and not before 1/2 hr. before sunrise on Monday.

Good Sleuthing!!!

 

[MBLover]

Good Sleuthing!!!

Thanks - my late husband was a big hunter/trapper and I thought I had remembered no hunting on Sunday's...but wasn't sure if the law had been changed since he passed.

 

[GourmetSoy]

Isn't it illegal to hunt on a Sunday - which the next day would have been?

ETA: Per DGIF site:

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/HUNTING/regulations/general.asp

It is unlawful to:
Hunt wild birds and wild animals with firearms or other weapons on Sunday, except on licensed shooting preserves. Raccoon hunters may hunt until 2:00 a.m. Sunday mornings.

So there should have been no hunters hunting after sundown on Sat. and not before 1/2 hr. before sunrise on Monday.

WOW! I would have never thought of that! We don't have such a rule in IA in regards to hunting. Great sleuthing!

So the person who did this "most likely" had the knowledge that he wouldn't have the risk if being seen by a hunter!

 

[MBLover]

Exactly - this person had many hours to get in and out of there without being seen. Possibly if someone did see something they would think it was a hunter either getting set up for a hunt - checking treestand or possibly poaching.

 

[kikid]

I thought deer season started on Nov 14th?